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Where would you rank last year's Booker on the 2004-05 team?

Best player
12
12%
2nd best
20
19%
3rd best
37
36%
4th best
25
24%
5th best
10
10%
 
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Post#1161 » by cberry78 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:40 pm

If this article is correct and Book does become a top 5 player in the league, then yeah, this deal is a no brainer.

https://www.si.com/nba/suns/analysis/devin-booker-projected-top-five-nba-star-bleacher-report

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Post#1162 » by suns12345 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:47 pm

The deal is a no brainer regardless. You have an all NBA player and this is the market price to keep them, whether we like it or not.
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Post#1163 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:12 am

You're not a bonafide superstar until you grace the cover of 2K

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Post#1164 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:45 am

lilfishi22 wrote:You're not a bonafide superstar until you grace the cover of 2K

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Didn't making the cover used to be a curse? Like every player that made the cover for years got injured? Or was that Madden? Who was the cover last year? Hopefully not Zion.

Edit: I guess Luka was 1 version last year but in 21 which was when last year started it was Zion, AD and Lillard on various covers.
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Post#1165 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jul 1, 2022 12:49 am

bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:You're not a bonafide superstar until you grace the cover of 2K

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Didn't making the cover used to be a curse? Like every player that made the cover for years got injured? Or was that Madden? Who was the cover last year? Hopefully not Zion.

Edit: I guess Luka was 1 version last year but in 21 which was when last year started it was Zion, AD and Lillard on various covers.

Luka was 2022, year before was Dame and Zion. Year before that was AD (lol)
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Post#1166 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jul 1, 2022 6:51 am

suns12345 wrote:The deal is a no brainer regardless. You have an all NBA player and this is the market price to keep them, whether we like it or not.
Yeah it's really as simple as that.

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Post#1168 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 10:30 am

Even if you don't think Book is a true superstar in the NBA, superstars want to play with him, that's worth something
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Post#1173 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:50 am

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Post#1174 » by Revived » Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:33 am

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Shame we couldn't stretch the definition of "clutch time" to 48min of a G7 :nonono:

Yeah exactly. These stats are all nice and cute but the guy choked at the biggest moment of the season. That too after losing an embarrassing game 6 in which he said after “I’m looking forward to game 7, it’s gonna be fun” etc while grinning harder when saying that than he probably ever did seeing Kendall naked.

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I love Book for putting the Suns on the map and all but nobody in their right mind will consider him clutch. Same thing with CP3 (and for good reason because CP3 conveniently gets injured and sucks ass in all the biggest games of his career).

Book is at least young enough to where he can change the narrative. LeBron was looked at as a non-clutch player as well after his performance in the 2011 Finals but he’s turned that narrative around since then of course.

But **** like him smiling after an embarrassing game 6 and offering up only “Just looking forward to game 7” when asked about his (6-18 shooting in gm 6) and his team’s performance in the game 6 (30 pt loss) and then proceeding to get humiliated in the most humbling way in maybe NBA history (definitely in franchise history) is a mindset he’s gonna have to change.
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Post#1175 » by cberry78 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:33 pm

Revived wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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Shame we couldn't stretch the definition of "clutch time" to 48min of a G7 :nonono:

Yeah exactly. These stats are all nice and cute but the guy choked at the biggest moment of the season. That too after losing an embarrassing game 6 in which he said after “I’m looking forward to game 7, it’s gonna be fun” etc while grinning harder when saying that than he probably ever did seeing Kendall naked.

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I love Book for putting the Suns on the map and all but nobody in their right mind will consider him clutch. Same thing with CP3 (and for good reason because CP3 conveniently gets injured and sucks ass in all the biggest games of his career).

Book is at least young enough to where he can change the narrative. LeBron was looked at as a non-clutch player as well after his performance in the 2011 Finals but he’s turned that narrative around since then of course.

But **** like him smiling after an embarrassing game 6 and offering up only “Just looking forward to game 7” when asked about his (6-18 shooting in gm 6) and his team’s performance in the game 6 (30 pt loss) and then proceeding to get humiliated in the most humbling way in maybe NBA history (definitely in franchise history) is a mindset he’s gonna have to change.
"Everything you want is on the other side of hard. "

I'm pretty sure Games 6 & 7 count as hard.

I can't wait to see how Book, CP3, DA, Mikal, Monty and the rest of the team respond this season.

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Post#1176 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:46 pm

cberry78 wrote:
Revived wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Shame we couldn't stretch the definition of "clutch time" to 48min of a G7 :nonono:

Yeah exactly. These stats are all nice and cute but the guy choked at the biggest moment of the season. That too after losing an embarrassing game 6 in which he said after “I’m looking forward to game 7, it’s gonna be fun” etc while grinning harder when saying that than he probably ever did seeing Kendall naked.

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I love Book for putting the Suns on the map and all but nobody in their right mind will consider him clutch. Same thing with CP3 (and for good reason because CP3 conveniently gets injured and sucks ass in all the biggest games of his career).

Book is at least young enough to where he can change the narrative. LeBron was looked at as a non-clutch player as well after his performance in the 2011 Finals but he’s turned that narrative around since then of course.

But **** like him smiling after an embarrassing game 6 and offering up only “Just looking forward to game 7” when asked about his (6-18 shooting in gm 6) and his team’s performance in the game 6 (30 pt loss) and then proceeding to get humiliated in the most humbling way in maybe NBA history (definitely in franchise history) is a mindset he’s gonna have to change.
"Everything you want is on the other side of hard. "

I'm pretty sure Games 6 & 7 count as hard.

I can't wait to see how Book, CP3, DA, Mikal, Monty and the rest of the team respond this season.

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I think it's safe to say when he thinks of "Game 7" he doesn't associate it with "the best two words in sports" any more.

He is clutch but hasn't shown he is clutch when his back is against the wall in an elimination game (where Suns could be eliminated). We have had 2 of those...Bucks (look at his game 6 stats - https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202107200MIL.html ) and then game 7 against Dallas.

Few players are big in those games...Kyrie, Luka (but had 2 game 7 or 6 losses to Kawhi 2 years prior to this year), Kawhi....not even sure who else....I guess Giannis....probably Jokic since they were down 3-1 to the Clips in the bubble and staved off elimination 3x.
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Post#1177 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:47 pm

But players always have to go through playoff adversity before getting over the hump. That is why I always thought it was a tall order for people to have the expectation to win it all. Even against the Bucks...they had the best record for 2 years prior to when we met in the finals and lost in earlier rounds so wouldn't go down easy. Especially Giannis and Middleton.
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Post#1178 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:33 am

Yeah I'm not pinning Book's entire reputation and career on a couple of poor clutch showings. Every winner has far more failures than successes.
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Post#1179 » by cberry78 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:02 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Yeah I'm not pinning Book's entire reputation and career on a couple of poor clutch showings. Every winner has far more failures than successes.
"I’ve missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I’ve lost almost 300 games. Twenty-six times I’ve been trusted to take the game-winning shot and missed. I’ve failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

Yeah, I'm not too worried about a couple of bad showings by a young player either.

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Post#1180 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:41 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Yeah I'm not pinning Book's entire reputation and career on a couple of poor clutch showings. Every winner has far more failures than successes.
"I’ve missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I’ve lost almost 300 games. Twenty-six times I’ve been trusted to take the game-winning shot and missed. I’ve failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan

Yeah, I'm not too worried about a couple of bad showings by a young player either.

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Jordan lost a few times in the playoffs but was dragging a not great team at first. Once the team was really good they dominated.

Hard to compare anyone to Jordan though.

Book should get better in the clutch in elimination games, but that is some big time pressure. Where if you lose you are done. Some people play better under those circumstances like the guys I named above and some worse, but I don't know how many of them ones who play great did in their very first ever playoff elimination games.

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