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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#81 » by Sgt Major » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:28 pm

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Sgt Major wrote:You need a serious history lesson or 30.

Well they're using against the US which is a faaaaaar worse country when it comes to **** like that, so it's not surprising.

google russian war crimes. then comeback to me.



Lol then google history of the US and its crimes both on its soil and overseas all over the world. Russia is not even close to that level of atrocity.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#82 » by infinite11285 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:29 pm

Desiderium wrote:Hope she makes it out ok. But we shouldn't trade her for the literal 'lord of war.' But if we do, hope she appreciates the US a little more


IIRC, Russia rejected the Brittney Griner/Viktor Bout prisoner swap because the US also wanted Paul Whelan included in the deal.

Unfortunately, Russia holds all of the leverage so Griner might be there for a long while.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#83 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:29 pm

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SNPA wrote:No one in any country should be in a cage over weed.


Not even weed cannabis residue….. it’s insanely bogus charge from Russia simply for political purposes and you have Americans cheering it on.

People are just mean BUT she has not endeared herself with opinions that she hates America so... Should she be sent home and tried here? yes is perfect world that would happen. That's not how the world works though.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#84 » by SOdisciple » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:30 pm

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Lunartic wrote:Bit ironic - trashes the USA for how unfair their legal system/etc is and then goes to a fullblown archaic near-totalitarian nation and is arrested for something that is mostly legal in the USA. (if you reply with the usual "but the usa is bad too!" then you don't understand what irony is)

Perhaps the USA ain't so bad relative to other countries?

80% chance she's swapped with another Russian and is back home soon.

Many people wildly taking this country for granted.

It's because they are ungrateful. They have no idea what real oppression looks like.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#85 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:31 pm

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google russian war crimes. then comeback to me.



Lol then google history of the US and its crimes both on its soil and overseas all over the world. Russia is not even close to that level of atrocity.

imagine defending Russia... :crazy: :noway:
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Post#86 » by tbhawksfan1 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:32 pm

Red8911 wrote:She lived there for 6 years I’m sure she knew the rules. Russians taking advantage now and want to use her in a trade with the US. Joe Biden better not give up any first round picks to acquire her.



Noooooo. So cold and so funny
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#87 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:32 pm

SOdisciple wrote:
165bows wrote:
Lunartic wrote:Bit ironic - trashes the USA for how unfair their legal system/etc is and then goes to a fullblown archaic near-totalitarian nation and is arrested for something that is mostly legal in the USA. (if you reply with the usual "but the usa is bad too!" then you don't understand what irony is)

Perhaps the USA ain't so bad relative to other countries?

80% chance she's swapped with another Russian and is back home soon.

Many people wildly taking this country for granted.

It's because they are ungrateful. They have no idea what real oppression looks like.

Seriously I'm American and i agree . They have no idea what oppression is.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#88 » by Dzon Dilindzer » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:32 pm

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Dzon Dilindzer wrote:play stupid games, win stupid prizes

why people feel sorry for her is beyond me

cant wait to see athletes crying over this, **** imbeciles

A decade of your life behind bars over a vape cartridge? It's not like it was ounces of weed. You never made a mistake in your life?

i dont know what russian law says about weed (except that is forbbiden), does amount of drug affects the sentence or whether she had intention to sell it or use it or whatever and i dont think it was mistake, i mean, how could it be a mistake

russia might have an agenda, but she brought this on herself
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#89 » by Pointgod » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:33 pm

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Pointgod wrote:
SNPA wrote:No one in any country should be in a cage over weed.


Not even weed cannabis residue….. it’s insanely bogus charge from Russia simply for political purposes and you have Americans cheering it on.

People are just mean BUT she has not endeared herself with opinions that she hates America so... Should she be sent home and tried here? yes is perfect world that would happen. That's not how the world works though.


Britney Griner has not said she hates America. This is twisted garbage from right wing media. And even if she does, that has nothing to do with her being detained by a corrupt dictatorship. You cannot pretend to be a free speech absolutist only in cases you agree with.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#90 » by Franco » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:35 pm

Do I feel pity for her situation, her family and friends? Yes, this is heartbreaking for them and it definitely feels like overkill.

But you also can't be a damn idiot and risk **** up your life to bring something illegal into a different country. The cons are way too obvious and way too large.
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Post#91 » by TheNewEra » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:35 pm

People getting upset about this and I’m just thinking about the countless minorities that were targeted and locked up in America over weed. I don’t feel sympathy for her playing stupid games overseas with the legal system but realize she will be used as bait for Russia.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#92 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:36 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:
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Not even weed cannabis residue….. it’s insanely bogus charge from Russia simply for political purposes and you have Americans cheering it on.

People are just mean BUT she has not endeared herself with opinions that she hates America so... Should she be sent home and tried here? yes is perfect world that would happen. That's not how the world works though.


Britney Griner has not said she hates America. This is twisted garbage from right wing media. And even if she does, that has nothing to do with her being detained by a corrupt dictatorship. You cannot pretend to be a free speech absolutist only in cases you agree with.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wnb-as-brittney-griner-national-anthem-has-no-place-in-wnba-sports-222810318.html
Then she retracts her own statement says its not disrespect the military but at that point people made up their minds about her.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#93 » by The Rebel » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:37 pm

MindState wrote:People have gotten less for murder in america.


People have also gotten more for Weed in the United States.
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Post#94 » by Lunartic » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:39 pm

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MindState wrote:People have gotten less for murder in america.


People have also gotten more for Weed in the United States.



what about murder weed?
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#95 » by Childs » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:39 pm

When you visit a country, do your research on what is legal and what is not. Can spare yourself a lot of grief.

Esp when you are trying to get an income and wages from it.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#96 » by The Rebel » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:40 pm

taikibansei wrote:
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JDR720 wrote:She won't actually serve the sentence. Russia has no use for her in jail, they'll just use her as a bargaining chip to do a prisoner swap with the US.

And yeah, she was very dumb to be over there in he first place. But at the same time, it's not uncommon for WNBA players or NWSL players to play overseas, including Russia, during the offseason in order to get more money. Hopefully this situation ends that practice though.

or you could not commit a crime

what a concept, right


Again, this is Russia--there's a good chance that the evidence was planted, or that no marijuana was found. (I.e., they just made it up.) Confessions mean nothing there--e.g., she was probably lied to that she'd get leniency if she signed off on it, and believed this lie. Again, a very naive person.

We likely won't know the truth unless and until Griner is released--and they likely won't release her even after her nine-year sentence is finished. Why would they?



She has never denied it was hers.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#97 » by JB2 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:45 pm

Ein Sof wrote:
Dzon Dilindzer wrote:play stupid games, win stupid prizes

why people feel sorry for her is beyond me

cant wait to see athletes crying over this, **** imbeciles

Serious question: do you have a mental illness?


Look, the fact that any person in the world would be jailed for possession of weed/hash oil, etc is absolutely ridiculous. I don't think OP is suggesting otherwise. But the reality is that we live in a world where the rights we have here and many parts of the world are not afforded elsewhere. Whether it's religious freedoms in China or women rights in the Middle East, or even drugs in many parts of Asia, they don't view these issues through the same lens the US does and I think that's what he was referring to.

There is obviously a political element to all this which makes it even more wrong but taking "drugs" to another country when that country is about to enter a major war and also proxy war with your home country - and you're a huge star in your respective sport going to play there - you really have to use better judgment and hopefully it's a learning lesson to all and also a means to appreciating our own country a bit more.

Having said that, free Brittney. It's BS but I did read somewhere finding her guilty was the 1st step in finalizing a deal with the US.

Edit: there are 1000's of Brittney Griner's here in our jails that should be free as well.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#98 » by Pointgod » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:45 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:People are just mean BUT she has not endeared herself with opinions that she hates America so... Should she be sent home and tried here? yes is perfect world that would happen. That's not how the world works though.


Britney Griner has not said she hates America. This is twisted garbage from right wing media. And even if she does, that has nothing to do with her being detained by a corrupt dictatorship. You cannot pretend to be a free speech absolutist only in cases you agree with.

https://www.yahoo.com/video/wnb-as-brittney-griner-national-anthem-has-no-place-in-wnba-sports-222810318.html
Then she retracts her own statement says its not disrespect the military but at that point people made up their minds about her.


That’s pretty weak evidence to show that she hates America. There are lots of people that believe that national anthem shouldn’t be played during sporting events. Do all of them hate America? You shouldn’t leave out the full context of her comments on the subject either:

“I’m going to protest regardless,” she said. “I'm not going to be out there for the national anthem. If the league continues to want to play it, that's fine. It will be all season long, I'll not be out there. I feel like more are going to probably do the same thing. I can only speak for myself.”


“I don't mean that in any disrespect to our country,” Griner continued. “My dad was in Vietnam and a law officer for 30 years. I wanted to be a cop before basketball. I do have pride for my country.”


I personally don't think it belongs in sports. ... Black people didn't have rights at that point,” Griner said of the creation of the Star-Spangled Banner. “It's hard disrespecting a song that didn't even represent all Americans when it was first made.”


Like others, Griner also argued that the anthem is out of place at sporting events regardless. The anthem isn’t played before other public entertainment gatherings like movies, concerts and plays.

“It's not played at Walmart. It's not played when you go to Six Flags. Why is it played before sporting events?”


And again this is a logical fallacy. None of this has to do with her being detained on absolute trumped up charges in Russia which is a separate issue from her thoughts on the national anthem.
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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 1/2 years. 

Post#99 » by Sgt Major » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:45 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:
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Ballerhogger wrote:google russian war crimes. then comeback to me.



Lol then google history of the US and its crimes both on its soil and overseas all over the world. Russia is not even close to that level of atrocity.

imagine defending Russia... :crazy: :noway:


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Re: OT Brittney Griner Sentenced for 9 years 

Post#100 » by queridiculo » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:45 pm

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You and me both. Hence my post on Page 1 of this thread.


Probably for the same reason people wake up early every morning to be on time for a job that they hate with every fiber of their being.

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