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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1521 » by winforlose » Thu Aug 4, 2022 3:51 am

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winforlose wrote:Ant has done a lot to silence the critics, but he still has a lot to prove. For all his swagger he added a knee injury (jumpers knee,) that could be an issue moving forward. He also ball stopped a lot, especially in the fourth quarter of the playoff games. There are more flaws as well, but they don’t matter for my point. Ant might be the next Harden or KD, he might be the next Lebron or Wade, he has a lot of potential and a lot of avenues. But he must stay healthy, continue to improve his game, and contribute to winning instead of making himself look good. None of these things are a given, and we should hold off on talking like they are. Ant might become an MVP, but he might not, and it is far from a forgone conclusion.

These comments and nitpickings are infuriating. You don't think any of those players have ever ball-stopped in the 4th quarter of playoff games? Did it stop them from being great? No, it's part of the NBA game, whether you like it or not...it's like certain people who whine about 3-pointers ruining the game.


i legit laughed at the idea that he doesn't think edwards contributes to winning. just a bizarre statement.


You misunderstood, I meant going forward. He needs to not stat pad on his quest to becoming an all star. The goal was not to criticize prior performance, but to instead point out the pitfalls some guys encounter with goals like his.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1522 » by Zonarosa » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:37 am

still bizarre. you seem to find yourself getting frustrated having to explain things over and over, but it’s mostly because it feels like you’re just throwing words to a page with little thought of what they actually mean. not just in regards to this either.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1523 » by winforlose » Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:56 am

Zonarosa wrote:still bizarre. you seem to find yourself getting frustrated having to explain things over and over, but it’s mostly because it feels like you’re just throwing words to a page with little thought of what they actually mean. not just in regards to this either.


Meh. I have strong opinions and I share them. I had doubts about Ant and am very pleased that he put some of them to bed. The Gobert trade satisfied my desire for twin towers in literally the most ideal scenario possible. I honestly believe this is not only the best Wolves roster ever assembled, but a legit contender with the best starting 5 in the league and the depth to win it all. Of course injury can mess with this, but even then I really like the roster and I believe strongly in Finch to make everything work.

That said, I also see the need to be measured in expectations of individual players year to year. Ant’s knee issue could be resolved, or it could persist. I am firm believer in the best ability being availability. Moreover, Ant still has a lot to prove in year 3. This is not to say he cannot prove it, but rather to say he should pace himself (and we should to,) with talk about becoming an all star starter and eventual best in the league. Better to under promise and over deliver than to over promise and under deliver.

Your issue with me seems to be that you dislike my communication style. While I am happy to discuss or debate substance with you, I am not particularly interested in your opinions of me. If that is a problem for you, I understand, but that is your problem and you need to be mindful of that.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1524 » by shrink » Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:28 am

Anyone catch Ant with Trey Young in the new Sprite commercial?

Movie star, commercial phenom, impending star player .. hard to believe he’s only turning 21 in a couple days.

Bill Simmons ranked him at #8, an “untouchable”
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Post#1525 » by Klomp » Fri Aug 5, 2022 3:13 am

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Post#1526 » by Isegrim » Fri Aug 5, 2022 6:11 am

Cheers Ant!
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1527 » by Zonarosa » Fri Aug 5, 2022 1:02 pm

i'm so happy he's ours.
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Post#1528 » by Rookie-Mistake » Fri Aug 5, 2022 1:03 pm

Needs to go back to no 5 now that Malik gone.

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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1529 » by Grubie024 » Fri Aug 5, 2022 6:17 pm

Zonarosa wrote:i'm so happy he's ours.

Right?! I love this kid... Not only am I ludicrously high on him as a player, he just has that swagger and personality. Fan favorite for sure
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1530 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 5, 2022 9:10 pm

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:Ant has done a lot to silence the critics, but he still has a lot to prove. For all his swagger he added a knee injury (jumpers knee,) that could be an issue moving forward. He also ball stopped a lot, especially in the fourth quarter of the playoff games. There are more flaws as well, but they don’t matter for my point. Ant might be the next Harden or KD, he might be the next Lebron or Wade, he has a lot of potential and a lot of avenues. But he must stay healthy, continue to improve his game, and contribute to winning instead of making himself look good. None of these things are a given, and we should hold off on talking like they are. Ant might become an MVP, but he might not, and it is far from a forgone conclusion.

These comments and nitpickings are infuriating. You don't think any of those players have ever ball-stopped in the 4th quarter of playoff games? Did it stop them from being great? No, it's part of the NBA game, whether you like it or not...it's like certain people who whine about 3-pointers ruining the game.

3 Pointers have ruined the game.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1531 » by KGdaBom » Fri Aug 5, 2022 9:13 pm

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:Ant has done a lot to silence the critics, but he still has a lot to prove. For all his swagger he added a knee injury (jumpers knee,) that could be an issue moving forward. He also ball stopped a lot, especially in the fourth quarter of the playoff games. There are more flaws as well, but they don’t matter for my point. Ant might be the next Harden or KD, he might be the next Lebron or Wade, he has a lot of potential and a lot of avenues. But he must stay healthy, continue to improve his game, and contribute to winning instead of making himself look good. None of these things are a given, and we should hold off on talking like they are. Ant might become an MVP, but he might not, and it is far from a forgone conclusion.

These comments and nitpickings are infuriating. You don't think any of those players have ever ball-stopped in the 4th quarter of playoff games? Did it stop them from being great? No, it's part of the NBA game, whether you like it or not...it's like certain people who whine about 3-pointers ruining the game.


When we get double digit leads with ball movement, and lose them with hero ball it is more than nitpicking. Forgive me if I don’t crown Ant the next coming of Lebron James after only 2 years. Ant has a lot to prove in year 3 and a lot to prove in year 4. A big part of that is finding ways to keep his knee healthy while taking that next big step. Let’s settle down and watch him instead of making bigger and bigger predictions that have less and less to do with who he is now.

We all love Ant, but as of now he's merely potential. He hasn't played well enough to deserve being an All Star yet.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1532 » by theGreatRC » Fri Aug 5, 2022 11:38 pm

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winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:These comments and nitpickings are infuriating. You don't think any of those players have ever ball-stopped in the 4th quarter of playoff games? Did it stop them from being great? No, it's part of the NBA game, whether you like it or not...it's like certain people who whine about 3-pointers ruining the game.


When we get double digit leads with ball movement, and lose them with hero ball it is more than nitpicking. Forgive me if I don’t crown Ant the next coming of Lebron James after only 2 years. Ant has a lot to prove in year 3 and a lot to prove in year 4. A big part of that is finding ways to keep his knee healthy while taking that next big step. Let’s settle down and watch him instead of making bigger and bigger predictions that have less and less to do with who he is now.

We all love Ant, but as of now he's merely potential. He hasn't played well enough to deserve being an All Star yet.


He was arguably an all-star last year. This coming year will be no question
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1533 » by fattymcgee » Sat Aug 6, 2022 1:08 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:Needs to go back to no 5 now that Malik gone.

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Nope, he da 1 jack!
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1534 » by KGdaBom » Sat Aug 6, 2022 1:35 am

theGreatRC wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
When we get double digit leads with ball movement, and lose them with hero ball it is more than nitpicking. Forgive me if I don’t crown Ant the next coming of Lebron James after only 2 years. Ant has a lot to prove in year 3 and a lot to prove in year 4. A big part of that is finding ways to keep his knee healthy while taking that next big step. Let’s settle down and watch him instead of making bigger and bigger predictions that have less and less to do with who he is now.

We all love Ant, but as of now he's merely potential. He hasn't played well enough to deserve being an All Star yet.


He was arguably an all-star last year. This coming year will be no question

As much of a fan of him as I am I wouldn't have granted him All Star status if it was up to me. Nice flashes, but way too inconsistent.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1535 » by Colbinii » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:26 pm

I just went back and looked and ANT's playoff series--WOW.

Above 60% TS%, 3.2 OBPM on 26.4% Usage is really good impact at 20 years old.

Here are Tatum's playoff stats during his Age 19 and Age 20 seasons [He is a March Birthday, Ant an August Birthday meaning Tatum is 7 months older each season].

56.4% TS%, -0.1 OBPM and 23% Usage

Derrick Rose
54.7% TS%, -0.3 OBPM and 24% Usage

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59.7% TS%, 6.9 OBPM, 37.5% Usage
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1536 » by Colbinii » Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:36 pm

ANTs stats per half season

2021 First 36 Games: 14.9/4.0/2.5, 1.3 Stocks, 1.8 Turnovers, 46.6 TS%

2021 Last 36 Games: 23.8/5.3/3.4, 2.0 Stocks, 2.6 Turnovers, 56.7 TS%

2022 First 36 Games: 22.6/5.3/3.7, 2.3 Stocks, 3.2 Turnovers, 56.0 TS%

2022 Last 36 Games (Injuries): 20.0/4.2/3.9, 2.0 Stocks, 2.0 Turnover, 56.0 TS%

2023 Prediction: 24.1/5.1/4.0, 2.5 Stocks, 2.5 Turnovers, 56.8 TS%
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1537 » by life_saver » Mon Aug 8, 2022 11:39 pm

Ant's EFG% was pretty good last season for a guard/wing despite the injuries. On the other hand, Ant's TS% was only above average due to Ant's low FTA. He averaged only around 3.9 FTA in both his seasons. If Ant can increase his FT attempts to say 6 per match, then his TS% will become pretty good. If he can increase his FT Attempts to say 8 per match, then his TS% will become close to elite for a high volume scoring guard.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1538 » by packforfreedom » Tue Aug 9, 2022 12:36 pm

life_saver wrote:Ant's EFG% was pretty good last season for a guard/wing despite the injuries. On the other hand, Ant's TS% was only above average due to Ant's low FTA. He averaged only around 3.9 FTA in both his seasons. If Ant can increase his FT attempts to say 6 per match, then his TS% will become pretty good. If he can increase his FT Attempts to say 8 per match, then his TS% will become close to elite for a high volume scoring guard.


He's getting fouled so much, his FTAs are a joke. I hope he'll get a better whistle next season.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1539 » by Klomp » Tue Aug 9, 2022 3:45 pm

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life_saver wrote:Ant's EFG% was pretty good last season for a guard/wing despite the injuries. On the other hand, Ant's TS% was only above average due to Ant's low FTA. He averaged only around 3.9 FTA in both his seasons. If Ant can increase his FT attempts to say 6 per match, then his TS% will become pretty good. If he can increase his FT Attempts to say 8 per match, then his TS% will become close to elite for a high volume scoring guard.


He's getting fouled so much, his FTAs are a joke. I hope he'll get a better whistle next season.

Would you guys believe he was actually Top-30 in the league last year in FTA? I was thinking the same a few weeks back, but was surprised when I looked up the numbers.

BTW getting to 6.0 FTA would put him in the Top 10 in the league (that's doable). Getting to 8.0 FTA has him in the Top 4 (probably unlikely this year).
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#1540 » by life_saver » Tue Aug 9, 2022 4:23 pm

Klomp wrote:
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life_saver wrote:Ant's EFG% was pretty good last season for a guard/wing despite the injuries. On the other hand, Ant's TS% was only above average due to Ant's low FTA. He averaged only around 3.9 FTA in both his seasons. If Ant can increase his FT attempts to say 6 per match, then his TS% will become pretty good. If he can increase his FT Attempts to say 8 per match, then his TS% will become close to elite for a high volume scoring guard.


He's getting fouled so much, his FTAs are a joke. I hope he'll get a better whistle next season.

Would you guys believe he was actually Top-30 in the league last year in FTA? I was thinking the same a few weeks back, but was surprised when I looked up the numbers.

BTW getting to 6.0 FTA would put him in the Top 10 in the league (that's doable). Getting to 8.0 FTA has him in the Top 4 (probably unlikely this year).

maybe he was ranked 30th in raw volume FTA but if you look at FTA per game, he was ranked around 39th which is low for a high volume scorer. He averaged much higher FTA in post-season though. In playoffs, he averaged 5.7 FTA per game which is much better

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