Direction of the team

[yosemiteben]

And now you know why I objected to doing the list at all. What exactly does it accomplish? You said name 5 or 6 guys, I list like 15 off the top of my head and you pick one you don't like and discount the whole list. Par for the course here.

Weirdly if you're down for trading for a generic star, there is no requirement to list out 6 of them with specific plans to each in order to have a valid idea. But less than a star? Must be realistic, must have detailed plan, must list alternative options, single one option is unrealistic than the entire approach as applied to all potential options is incomprehensible.

Sorry if expected more effort than just listing off a depth charts of Eastern Conf teams. My bad.

You do you man.

My parting sentiment is why does that one approach have a heightened standard of effort than the others? Again, none of your options named players or options. The litmus test only applies to the crazy idea of ONLY trading multiple picks for a proven player while also focusing on internal development. Not exactly an extremely esoteric approach that is difficult to quantity or understand,.

[JMAC3]

My parting sentiment is why does that one approach have a heightened standard of effort than the others? Again, none of your options named players or options. The litmus test only applies to the crazy idea of ONLY trading multiple picks for a proven player while also focusing on internal development. Not exactly an extremely esoteric approach that is difficult to quantity or understand,.

My parting sentiment....
Which do you think would of been more impactful/insightful?

A list of 2-4 players with reasons why you like them, think they are valuable or why they might be available? roughly the amount of assets they would of cost? etc... you know spending 5-10 mins putting some thoughts down.

Or listing 15 names to prove a point? that took 30 seconds...

Which do you think would of sparked a more entertaining conversation about basketball?

[Rich4114]

You two need to stop bickering or I’m telling dad.

So… what other stars do we predict may become available between now and next summer?

Currently it’s Durant and Mitchell. Waiting on the draft means having to lose a lot of games for multiple seasons, hoping we hit on our pick and then waiting 2-4 seasons after said pick for that pick to hit their prime and be a guy capable of helping us win a playoff series. If we had no LaMelo, that should be the approach. But we do have LaMelo so it becomes easy. Do whatever it takes to pair him up.

[Bassman]

Voted the “hold tight” but also with the caveat that we try to make a good move if available for a strong player to add with Melo. Doubt that becomes an option. Bridges blew up our trajectory. His availability/desirability is highly questionable for this season, and who knows about afterward.

Frankly we are the Hornets, essentially the “Cubs” of the NBA. They got a championship after, what, 90 years? Sounds about right for us also.

[HornetJail]

I'm somewhere between blow it up and hold tight. I wouldn't dump Gordon/Rozier for the sake of dumping them, but I'm listening if there's fair value coming back.

If you can find a decent haul for Gordon, take it. If anybody offers anything at all for Plumlee or Oubre, done no takebacks. I'd probably want to hold onto Rozier unless another team actually goes hard after him, in hopes that this "tank" is really just 1-2 years and then we're back challenging for a 6 seed. If the rebuild is gonna be longer, then move him in a year or two, after seeing what we have in Bouknight.

[BatumtheGlue]

Voted the “hold tight” but also with the caveat that we try to make a good move if available for a strong player to add with Melo. Doubt that becomes an option. Bridges blew up our trajectory. His availability/desirability is highly questionable for this season, and who knows about afterward.

Frankly we are the Hornets, essentially the “Cubs” of the NBA. They got a championship after, what, 90 years? Sounds about right for us also.

Same choice. I'm tired of watching the Hornets get killed almost every game. If we are losing, it's fine as long as it is still fun to watch. Last season we were fun to watched, but as you have said Bridges **** it up this season. The only way for us to be a factor is to get a miracle in drafting, like what the Bucks got in Giannis, but all of us now, that wont be happen. I like Lamelo but he is not a game changer like Giannis or Luka.

With all that said i'm still proud as the fan of NBA's cub.

[bravor]

I'm somewhere between blow it up and hold tight. I wouldn't dump Gordon/Rozier for the sake of dumping them, but I'm listening if there's fair value coming back.

If you can find a decent haul for Gordon, take it. If anybody offers anything at all for Plumlee or Oubre, done no takebacks. I'd probably want to hold onto Rozier unless another team actually goes hard after him, in hopes that this "tank" is really just 1-2 years and then we're back challenging for a 6 seed. If the rebuild is gonna be longer, then move him in a year or two, after seeing what we have in Bouknight.

I am in the same spot, but i dont have the same priorities.

For me it's Rozier the odd man out (on a 'positive' trade). Mostly because you want to have Booknight on the court, either with or without Ball. And know what you have.
At worst, he helps to tank for a good pick, at best, he raises his value and the FO has a real choice between keeping him or trading him for better pieces (if it's worth it obviously).

You have to keep Hayward for now as there is no real other option, and with the cap raise, i 'd gamble on a potential bidding war for him during next season/offseason.

Next draft will have many interesting wings (including some self creating shot makers) that could at the very least replace Bridges's production offensively. While having upside on the defensive end.

Being nervous about Ball's extension and commitment wont disappear if you dont get other options, at least a very good young prospect to play along him (or not if he asked a trade).

[JMAC3]

You two need to stop bickering or I’m telling dad.

So… what other stars do we predict may become available between now and next summer?

Currently it’s Durant and Mitchell. Waiting on the draft means having to lose a lot of games for multiple seasons, hoping we hit on our pick and then waiting 2-4 seasons after said pick for that pick to hit their prime and be a guy capable of helping us win a playoff series. If we had no LaMelo, that should be the approach. But we do have LaMelo so it becomes easy. Do whatever it takes to pair him up.

Realistically it's unpredictable because player's these days, but I think it has more to do with team situations more often than not. Jazz couldn't get over hump so they were fine to blow it up and retool. Nets have been massive disappointment and Harden got ball rolling in terms of changes.

A few teams I could see in similar boats

Nuggets- They wouldn't trade Jokic, but maybe shuffle deck with MPJ, Murray or Aaron Gordon if they dont make WCF.
Boston- I just don't see Tatum ever being avail, if Brown is moved it will be for an upgrade and not a bunch of smaller pieces.
Chicago- Vuc if FA, Derozan older, Lonzo knee banged up. Maybe they regret Lavine deal in 12 months and blow it up. Not sure he is any better fit than Mitchell though. Plus he is older and his contract is a lot more.
Lakers- If LeBron leaves, they might try to restart and move Davis. However, he will be going on 31 at that point.
Twolves- Maybe Towns, Gobert don't mesh. Still think you are looking at 4 firsts for either.
Thunder- SGA, maybe rookies take longer to mature and they decide to cash in. Presti probably would want more than Jazz.
Wizards- Beal.

Just hard to see anyone out of Jokic, Tatum, Embiid, Giannis, Trae, Booker, Luka, Curry, or Ja ever becoming available.

I suppose the sleepers are Zion, but that is probably because he is hurt/fat or wants a big market. Not sure we would make sense in any of those instances. Kawhi or Jimmy could shake loose too, but they are so much older than LaMelo. Would we want that?

Realistically Beal, Lavine, Michael Porter Jr, Anthony Davis are the 4 I could see at the highest probability.

Question is would you rather have any of those 4 than Mitchell?