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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#121 » by Skybox » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:56 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:I just listened to Phillip-Rossman Reich argue with a straight face that Harris needs to start over Suggs so that we can “win games” next year.

This win-now push that’s starting to run through this fanbase is bizarre to me. Especially after our last rebuild.


I think Suggs/Fultz is the starting backcourt - unless it proves itself unworkable due to lack of shooting range. I'm confident that both will improve enough this season (particularly Suggs) BUT, if they don't, Suggs' "development" isn't the only issue to consider. A non-shooting backcourt will cause Franz & Paolo to work in a crowd of constant double and triple-teams. I value their development more critical and having them playing in quicksand would be a horrible setback to promoting team play ('pace and space" per Mosely). It's a double-edged sword...I'm pulling for Suggs, but he's now the 3rd highest development priority, IMO. Harris could fall into the starting spot - not because he's our SG of the future, but because, "DEAR GOD, CAN SOMEONE/ANYONE PLEASE HIT AN OPEN 3 BEFORE PB STARTS DEMANDING A TRADE".

I am all for Harris as a terrific backup SG...but not if the guy ahead of him just isn't that good (yet). Long term, I see the obvious trade targets being a taller 3&D threat at SG. Guys like Poole and even Mitchell would be great, but their on-ball dominance might not be exactly what this roster needs. Gary Trent or Devin Vassel types might be even better.
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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#122 » by Showbiz Bear » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:57 pm

Banchero has to start. We don't spend a #1 overall pick on a sixth man, not with where we're at as an organization. Isaac can come off the bench if healthy.

Fultz/Cole
Harris/Suggs
Franz/Okeke
Banchero/Isaac
WCJ/Bamba

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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#123 » by VFX » Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:28 pm

Gary Harris hasn’t been a legitimate starter since 2018.

He started 30 games last year due to injuries.

He’s not starting on opening night.
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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#124 » by VFX » Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:30 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:I just listened to Phillip-Rossman Reich argue with a straight face that Harris needs to start over Suggs so that we can “win games” next year.

This win-now push that’s starting to run through this fanbase is bizarre to me. Especially after our last rebuild.



I don’t get it either. Putting the youth in good positions to succeed is more important than grinding out wins. This fan base has learned nothing.

Completely off topic, but PRR somehow has the most punchable face and voice. His takes are pretty cringe as well.
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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#125 » by zaymon » Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:09 pm

Skybox wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:I just listened to Phillip-Rossman Reich argue with a straight face that Harris needs to start over Suggs so that we can “win games” next year.

This win-now push that’s starting to run through this fanbase is bizarre to me. Especially after our last rebuild.


I think Suggs/Fultz is the starting backcourt - unless it proves itself unworkable due to lack of shooting range. I'm confident that both will improve enough this season (particularly Suggs) BUT, if they don't, Suggs' "development" isn't the only issue to consider. A non-shooting backcourt will cause Franz & Paolo to work in a crowd of constant double and triple-teams. I value their development more critical and having them playing in quicksand would be a horrible setback to promoting team play ('pace and space" per Mosely). It's a double-edged sword...I'm pulling for Suggs, but he's now the 3rd highest development priority, IMO. Harris could fall into the starting spot - not because he's our SG of the future, but because, "DEAR GOD, CAN SOMEONE/ANYONE PLEASE HIT AN OPEN 3 BEFORE PB STARTS DEMANDING A TRADE".

I am all for Harris as a terrific backup SG...but not if the guy ahead of him just isn't that good (yet). Long term, I see the obvious trade targets being a taller 3&D threat at SG. Guys like Poole and even Mitchell would be great, but their on-ball dominance might not be exactly what this roster needs. Gary Trent or Devin Vassel types might be even better.


You are one of the few posters who see the big picture around Harris here.
Its not that he is so good and future of our franchise that he must start but its possible he is the only guard who compliments Wagner, Banchero and Carter who are our core right now.
Prioritizing Fultz, Anthony or even Suggs is very short sighted.
We saw already how good chemistry Harris and Wagner had last season. Banchero is also proficient in finding shooters in the corners, we saw it already in summer league. I am not putting Anthony, Fultz and Suggs there to watch them brick open looks, i am also not putting the ball in their hands to watch Wagner and Banchero in the corners.
Its really not about Gary Harris, its about way we want to play and core guys we need to surround with specific skills. Even some smart posters fail to realise it right now.
Ps. I dont agree about Trent or Vassel, only guy i want is Poole but you get the and 1 for more important stuff.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#126 » by Knightro » Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:50 pm

Starters: Fultz-Suggs-Wagner-Banchero-Carter
Reserves: Anthony-Harris-Okeke-Isaac-Bamba
Deep Bench: Cannady-Hampton-Houstan-Bol-Wagner
Two-Way: Harris-Schofield
Off the team: Ross
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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#127 » by Showbiz Bear » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:03 am

Knightro wrote:Starters: Fultz-Suggs-Wagner-Banchero-Carter
Reserves: Anthony-Harris-Okeke-Isaac-Bamba
Deep Bench: Cannady-Hampton-Houstan-Bol-Wagner
Two-Way: Harris-Schofield
Off the team: Ross
I'm down with this. I put Harris in the 5 because of his shooting and defense. But I want Suggs to be the starter and a better shooter

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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#128 » by tooler » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:02 pm

Did anyone have Suggs-TRoss-Franz-Paolo-WCJ?

I still have faith in Suggs but credit the coach for his willingness to bench him and put shooting on the floor around our good frontcourt players. At least he's making an effort.
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Re: predict the Magic's depth chart on opening night 

Post#129 » by fendilim » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:33 pm

tooler wrote:Did anyone have Suggs-TRoss-Franz-Paolo-WCJ?

I still have faith in Suggs but credit the coach for his willingness to bench him and put shooting on the floor around our good frontcourt players. At least he's making an effort.

I guess I did lol
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