Westbrook Trades - Dream a Sweet Dream

[nzahir]

At this point it looks like its Hield/Turner or Bojan/Beasley/Reddish (or something like that). I'd really, really prefer the former because I think pairing Turner with AD to create a massive front line with incredible rim protection is the one way to cover up the flaws with the rest of the roster.

What about Turner and Bojan

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[TheHartBreakKid]

At this point it looks like its Hield/Turner or Bojan/Beasley/Reddish (or something like that). I'd really, really prefer the former because I think pairing Turner with AD to create a massive front line with incredible rim protection is the one way to cover up the flaws with the rest of the roster.

What about Turner and Bojan

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Turner and Bojan is pretty meh too me. Arguably the 2 best players available, but would surely require both first round picks, as you had in your trade idea, and I'm not sure if it's worth it for these 2.

Any addition of turner gives us our 3 best players in the front court. While Turner,AD,Lebron can play together, and I don't have a problem with the fit on paper, that would mean more AD at the 4, and more Lebron at the 3, which are both not ideal. More importantly, it means less 3 guard lineups which provide the best versitality in the modern NBA.

Now, add another 3/4 in Bojan, who isn't a slouch like Melo on defense, but isn't really anything above average, and I see this team having a lot of balance issues.

For the same price, I would prefer Hield/Turner, or Conley/Bojan while giving up only one of the picks. (leaves the second pick available to dump conley if for some reason we believe that we could be major players for a star by the time free agency comes along.

[BEazy]

Well it seems like the Brickmaster is going to be on the team this season. I don't think Rob is going to let go of those 2 1st round picks.

[DanishLakerFan]

Why are the Lakers so reluctant to give up those two picks?

You can build through the draft, which takes 3+ years of tanking and high picks as well as a lot of luck. Or you can build through free agency. Given that the Los Angeles is a place where players want to sign as free agents it’s easy to plan for max cap space in the years where we dont have picks.

[LAL1947]

Why are the Lakers so reluctant to give up those two picks?

You can build through the draft, which takes 3+ years of tanking and high picks as well as a lot of luck. Or you can build through free agency. Given that the Los Angeles is a place where players want to sign as free agents it’s easy to plan for max cap space in the years where we dont have picks.

I think the team would give up those picks for the right player. The competition is really fierce, look at the quality that GSW, Clipper, Celtics, etc have. So giving up those picks simply to get rid of Westbrook... or for players who are not stars and cannot genuinely help the team compete... would be like cutting off your nose to pretty up your face. Know what I mean? Going for broke all the time is not sustainable.

[DanishLakerFan]

Why are the Lakers so reluctant to give up those two picks?

You can build through the draft, which takes 3+ years of tanking and high picks as well as a lot of luck. Or you can build through free agency. Given that the Los Angeles is a place where players want to sign as free agents it’s easy to plan for max cap space in the years where we dont have picks.

I think the team would give up those picks for the right player. The competition is really fierce, look at the quality that GSW, Clipper, Celtics, etc have. So giving up those picks simply to get rid of Westbrook... or for players who are not stars and cannot genuinely help the team compete... would be like cutting off your nose to pretty up your face. Know what I mean? Going for broke all the time is not sustainable.

I agree with that to an extent and they shouldn’t give up picks just to dump WB, but at the same time we are looking at a quite small title-window with Lebron and AD, so it’s simply to risky to build through free agency at this point.

And many of the deals we’re hearing about (Indiana, Utah, Detroit, NY etc.) would actually make the Lakers legit contenders.

Right now i’d prefer the Buddy+Turner deal. Even over Kyrie, who i dont really trust. Turner in particular is a guy we should work hard to get because he would, theoretically, allow the Lakers to consider moving AD.

[stan francisco]

We’re obviously in win now mode until LBJ retires. Picks be damned. What we need is defensive toughness and focus. Rookies don’t bring that.

Russ will be moved. If not now, in February.

[BEazy]

This season is going to be brutal if that ninja turtle is on the roster. May even skip this season if it the same BS as last season.

[Karmaloop]

Why are the Lakers so reluctant to give up those two picks?

You can build through the draft, which takes 3+ years of tanking and high picks as well as a lot of luck. Or you can build through free agency. Given that the Los Angeles is a place where players want to sign as free agents it’s easy to plan for max cap space in the years where we dont have picks.

Because sending multiple picks for a hodge podge of meh veterans isn't the solution.

[danfantastk32]

Why are the Lakers so reluctant to give up those two picks?

You can build through the draft, which takes 3+ years of tanking and high picks as well as a lot of luck. Or you can build through free agency. Given that the Los Angeles is a place where players want to sign as free agents it’s easy to plan for max cap space in the years where we dont have picks.

Because sending multiple picks for a hodge podge of meh veterans isn't the solution.

This x 5.

Giving up the picks isn't a big deal. And yes, as someone wrote...Lebron's window is quickly closing (feel like we've been saying that for about 5 years). But that doesn't suddenly make those players good.

Just stop for a second and think about it: WHY is Indiana considering dumping those players? I keep hearing about how good they are. Hell....Mychael Thompson was on ESPN yesterday, and called Hield one of the best 3-point shooters in the league. That's just the Laker hype machine. I'm sorry, but it is. There's no way they are dumping 2 players in their 20's who are "so dominant" so they can absorb bricky-boy's bloated contract for a year...and get our two lower first round picks.

Miles Turner's contract ends this year too. Hield is 2 years. So it's not a salary dump. Flexibility?? For what? What is Indiana doing, if these guys are half the players they're suddenly being hyped up for?

Still not convinced??? Ok....well why aren't other teams jumping on board if the asking price is so low for these "AMAZING" players??

And there in lies the inescapable truth.....these guys are nba riff-raff. Two guys who's names won't be mentioned again in 6-7 years. And every GM out there knows it. The Pacers are trying to swindle two picks, cause they smell our desperation (I still think we'll ultimately fold, and make the deal).

So yeah...ask yourself why NO OTHER TEAM is trying to get in on the act here, if these guys are really worth a damn.

And that's why we shouldn't make the deal.

[BEazy]

But wait! There's more moves to come guys! Pat Bev the superstar is just the beginning! - Probably Jeanie Buss

[DanishLakerFan]

Why are the Lakers so reluctant to give up those two picks?

You can build through the draft, which takes 3+ years of tanking and high picks as well as a lot of luck. Or you can build through free agency. Given that the Los Angeles is a place where players want to sign as free agents it’s easy to plan for max cap space in the years where we dont have picks.

Because sending multiple picks for a hodge podge of meh veterans isn't the solution.

This x 5.

Giving up the picks isn't a big deal. And yes, as someone wrote...Lebron's window is quickly closing (feel like we've been saying that for about 5 years). But that doesn't suddenly make those players good.

Just stop for a second and think about it: WHY is Indiana considering dumping those players? I keep hearing about how good they are. Hell....Mychael Thompson was on ESPN yesterday, and called Hield one of the best 3-point shooters in the league. That's just the Laker hype machine. I'm sorry, but it is. There's no way they are dumping 2 players in their 20's who are "so dominant" so they can absorb bricky-boy's bloated contract for a year...and get our two lower first round picks.

Miles Turner's contract ends this year too. Hield is 2 years. So it's not a salary dump. Flexibility?? For what? What is Indiana doing, if these guys are half the players they're suddenly being hyped up for?

Still not convinced??? Ok....well why aren't other teams jumping on board if the asking price is so low for these "AMAZING" players??

And there in lies the inescapable truth.....these guys are nba riff-raff. Two guys who's names won't be mentioned again in 6-7 years. And every GM out there knows it. The Pacers are trying to swindle two picks, cause they smell our desperation (I still think we'll ultimately fold, and make the deal).

So yeah...ask yourself why NO OTHER TEAM is trying to get in on the act here, if these guys are really worth a damn.

And that's why we shouldn't make the deal.

First of all i disagree with regards to Turner and Buddy. I think Bev, Buddy, Turner would give AD and Lebron a good chance at a title.

Second of all, if they don't do anything they for sure have no chance. No point in having AD and Lebron if you just give up.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Conley, Beasley, and Bogdonovic

for

Westbrook, Nunn, and a first round pick

[heezyo2o]

I don't see Ainge pairing westbrook with sexton. They would want sexton to show out to be traded for more picks in the future.

Also I don't see why all of a sudden there's a need to hold onto these two picks. After extending Lebron, might as well try and get players to win now. Let's be real, the lakers haven't developed picks recently. And if they trade them away as a 1st or 2nd year player, then might as well trade the pick away right now.

[danfantastk32]

First of all i disagree with regards to Turner and Buddy. I think Bev, Buddy, Turner would give AD and Lebron a good chance at a title.

Second of all, if they don't do anything they for sure have no chance. No point in having AD and Lebron if you just give up.

Point 1: Ok...so then how come nobody has tried to get these two? We were looking at Hield last season, apparently. It's been a few months now.....NOBODY is making them a better offer? Hmmm....

Point 2: Your not doing nothing.....your keeping your picks for future moves. That's not giving up. That's playing poker.

"You gotta know when to hold them...know when to fold em....." as the great Kenny once lamented.

[TylersLakers]

Conley, Beasley, and Bogdonovic

for

Westbrook, Nunn, and a first round pick

Any combination that involves getting NBA basketball players and getting rid of a non-NBA player (Westbrook) is a win in my books.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Conley, Beasley, and Bogdonovic

for

Westbrook, Nunn, and a first round pick

Any combination that involves getting NBA basketball players and getting rid of a non-NBA player (Westbrook) is a win in my books.

I hear you, but the contracts coming back do matter.

Here, the Lakers would be punting their capspace to 2024, so it works.

[dockingsched]

This makes sense. Lakers aren’t going to make a trade that costs them their 2023 cap space unless it’s a no brainer. People should adjust their trade ideas for Westbrook who can just be sent home to expire if needed.

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[TheHartBreakKid]

Ainge will demand both available first rounder, and the Utah vets arent simply worth that for me.

If there is an Indiana trade on the table, now is the time to make it.

[Eric Bieniemy]

Honest Question: Who are the Lakers targeting next summer with their space?