Roster 2022-23 as per September 21st

[FJS]

C: Markkanen, Udoka, Kessler
PF: Bogdanovic, Vandervilt, Gay
SF: NAW, Agbaji, Bolmaro, Fontecchio, Johnson
SG: Clarkson, Beasley, Horton-Tucker
PG: Sexton, Conley, Butler

Sexton is not a PG, Markkanen is not a C.

We played a lot Mitchell at pg, not being a pg... Some other are asking to play Vandervilt as C... and he is not either... at least is a 7 Footer.

[Swuul]

C: Markkanen, Udoka, Kessler
PF: Bogdanovic, Vandervilt, Gay
SF: NAW, Agbaji, Bolmaro, Fontecchio, Johnson
SG: Clarkson, Beasley, Horton-Tucker
PG: Sexton, Conley, Butler

Sexton is not a PG, Markkanen is not a C.

We played a lot Mitchell at pg, not being a pg... Some other are asking to play Vandervilt as C... and he is not either... at least is a 7 Footer.

That may be, but putting Sexton at PG will see the other team-members revolt and go for their pitchforks, while playing Markkanen at C will see him with a season ending injury very soon. I would understand those to be used as tank-moves (especially Sexton is an amazing tank-commander), but they make zero sense because of the ripple effects on the organisation.

[zero24gravity]

Sexton is not a PG, Markkanen is not a C.

We played a lot Mitchell at pg, not being a pg... Some other are asking to play Vandervilt as C... and he is not either... at least is a 7 Footer.

That may be, but putting Sexton at PG will see the other team-members revolt and go for their pitchforks, while playing Markkanen at C will see him with a season ending injury very soon. I would understand those to be used as tank-moves (especially Sexton is an amazing tank-commander), but they make zero sense because of the ripple effects on the organisation.

I agree on Markkanen. Definitely not a center, even by new NBA standards.

Sexton, well... I think the Jazz learned their lesson about 6'1" shooting guards (unless they find a big PG at some point). He needs to learn to play "point" better, or he'll be a Clarkson-like 6th man in the future. But for now, assuming Conley is moved or the team wants Mike to come off the bench, he's gotta be PG#1, IMO.

Side note: Assuming the Jazz can't get good value back for him, I would like to see Conley stay as a bench player and veteran mentor. He is well known for being an amazing teammate, and I think he'd be very valuable showing the young bucks how to be a true professional. He may like going to a title contender better, but I think he'd embrace the role with the Jazz. The Jazz need to spend money somewhere (salary floor), so why not on a vet who can help with culture & be like another coach?

[MalonesElbows]

We played a lot Mitchell at pg, not being a pg... Some other are asking to play Vandervilt as C... and he is not either... at least is a 7 Footer.

That may be, but putting Sexton at PG will see the other team-members revolt and go for their pitchforks, while playing Markkanen at C will see him with a season ending injury very soon. I would understand those to be used as tank-moves (especially Sexton is an amazing tank-commander), but they make zero sense because of the ripple effects on the organisation.

I agree on Markkanen. Definitely not a center, even by new NBA standards.

Sexton, well... I think the Jazz learned their lesson about 6'1" shooting guards (unless they find a big PG at some point). He needs to learn to play "point" better, or he'll be a Clarkson-like 6th man in the future. But for now, assuming Conley is moved or the team wants Mike to come off the bench, he's gotta be PG#1, IMO.

Side note: Assuming the Jazz can't get good value back for him, I would like to see Conley stay as a bench player and veteran mentor. He is well known for being an amazing teammate, and I think he'd be very valuable showing the young bucks how to be a true professional. He may like going to a title contender better, but I think he'd embrace the role with the Jazz. The Jazz need to spend money somewhere (salary floor), so why not on a vet who can help with culture & be like another coach?

That's fine, but I only want Conley playing half the games for the tank

[FJS]

Juancho being MVP in the Euro finals... in a game where Gobert was playing.

We had him for cheap... I think he was useful.

[zero24gravity]

Juancho being MVP in the Euro finals... in a game where Gobert was playing.

We had him for cheap... I think he was useful.

Correction: Willy Hernangomez was the MVP, not Juancho. Damn older brothers are always taking the headlines.

[Inigo Montoya]

Juancho being MVP in the Euro finals... in a game where Gobert was playing.

We had him for cheap... I think he was useful.

We are tanking (hopefully). We have no use for useful players

[mg]

Sexton is not a PG, Markkanen is not a C.

We played a lot Mitchell at pg, not being a pg... Some other are asking to play Vandervilt as C... and he is not either... at least is a 7 Footer.

That may be, but putting Sexton at PG will see the other team-members revolt and go for their pitchforks, while playing Markkanen at C will see him with a season ending injury very soon. I would understand those to be used as tank-moves (especially Sexton is an amazing tank-commander), but they make zero sense because of the ripple effects on the organisation.

That is such a lazy take. At age 23 we don't know if Sexton can be a PG or not in this league and the information from those Cavs teams is incomplete on the subject. Obviously Danny saw something there. Sexton basically missed all of last season. The only time the Cavs gave him a real chance to be lead playmaker was his rookie season when he was 19 trying to play PG next to JR Smith and a bunch of other bitter post Lebron vets who were going to 'bring out their pitchforks' regardless of who the Cavs drafted with that Brooklyn pick. Both Sexton and Garland looked bad in his 2nd season due to a poor supporting cast although Sexton did emerge as the scorer and eventually Garland as the better playmaker of the 2. Those Cavs teams also went thru 4 head coaches his first 2 seasons. Maybe he is destined to be a scorer off the bench (or a CJ/Brunson small SG type) but I think Hardy is going to give him every chance to succeed in some sort of playmaking role this coming season. There should be opportunity for all of these young guys including Markkanen to stretch their wings a bit even if it doesn't result in a ton of wins. Maybe Lauri is given a chance to play 3 positions this coming season. Maybe Lauri needs a Mobley/Allen type frontline partner to be successful in this league. Just like Sexton he is going to be given every opportunity. I can probably say the same about Vandy, THT, etc. It's a developmental season.

[red4hf]

Juancho being MVP in the Euro finals... in a game where Gobert was playing.

We had him for cheap... I think he was useful.

We are tanking (hopefully). We have no use for useful players

Different Hernangomez actually........

[FJS]

Willy was MVP of the Euro tournament.

Juancho Was MVP of the final, as I said.

Regards.

[red4hf]

Willy was MVP of the Euro tournament.

Juancho Was MVP of the final, as I said.

Regards.

You are correct......Apologies......

[FJS]

Willy was MVP of the Euro tournament.

Juancho Was MVP of the final, as I said.

Regards.

You are correct......Apologies......

Don't worry!

[Swuul]

I think Hardy is going to give him every chance to succeed in some sort of playmaking role this coming season.

I sure hope Sexton would surprise me, but until/if that happens, my expectations of him as PG will remain as seen in this video:

Watch on YouTube

Cavs down by 13 points, Sexton pounds the air out of the ball, until Kevin Love looses a bolt.

[mg]

I think Hardy is going to give him every chance to succeed in some sort of playmaking role this coming season.

I sure hope Sexton would surprise me, but until/if that happens, my expectations of him as PG will remain as seen in this video:

Watch on YouTube

Cavs down by 13 points, Sexton pounds the air out of the ball, until Kevin Love looses a bolt.

You had to find a video clip from when Sexton was 19 years old playing with a bunch of post Lebron bitter vets to prove some point?
I could dig up some old clips of Lauri and his lack of rebounding while playing with the Bulls as I personally had to sit thru some of those games as my brother has season tickets for the Bulls.

The Jazz just gave Sexton a 4/$70mil contract. He's only 23. I'm pretty sure they are going to give him a chance to be a playmaker. Same thing goes for THT as I believe he could potentially have some playmaking chops or at least he showed he could do so in college.
Same with Bolmaro and the rest of the young kids.

It's a rebuilding year. It's going to look ugly at times. There will be a ton of mistakes due to youth but do believe they will be playing with energy which we didn't always see last season in Utah.

[red4hf]

Jazz add Cody Zeller....... I guess we did need some veteran help in the middle.......

[mg]

Zeller was picked 4th in the 2013 draft.

I think we all know who got taken at 27.

[Swuul]

I could dig up some old clips of Lauri and his lack of rebounding while playing with the Bulls as I personally had to sit thru some of those games as my brother has season tickets for the Bulls.

Absolutely. But what that has to do with Sexton being a black hole with zero PG skills I have no clue of.

You claim all players in Jazz get to shine this season. That simply is impossible if Sexton gets the keys to the team. In that case there will be exactly one player shining, the rest of the team will be extremely frustrated. Good for the tank, sure, but that way you don't build a team bonding together.

[zero24gravity]

Jazz add Cody Zeller....... I guess we did need some veteran help in the middle.......

It's just a camp deal, but I agree that even a "tanking" team needs a certain amount of depth. The Jazz have only a late 1st round pick rookie, and a second year player who gets hurt every-other time he moves (plus has looked pretty terrible in his time on the court so far) at the center spot. Not exactly an exciting signing to me, but Zeller could make this team and play real minutes, assuming the Jazz are able to move some other guaranteed contracts before the season starts.

[Inigo Montoya]

That's a really good signing, if it's for the season. Bring in a player who can give you minutes at the position while not moving the needle. I approve.

[red4hf]

Jazz add Cody Zeller....... I guess we did need some veteran help in the middle.......

It's just a camp deal, but I agree that even a "tanking" team needs a certain amount of depth. The Jazz have only a late 1st round pick rookie, and a second year player who gets hurt every-other time he moves (plus has looked pretty terrible in his time on the court so far) at the center spot. Not exactly an exciting signing to me, but Zeller could make this team and play real minutes, assuming the Jazz are able to move some other guaranteed contracts before the season starts.

If anything he can teach Udoka and Kessler some effort.......