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Post#1641 » by Cappy_Smurf » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:42 am

Diop wrote:thanks to ainge, this offseason is so crazy with 1st round picks its hard to pin point their value


I really think this idea is being overblown.

Ainge had 2 all stars that both had multiple years left on their contract. Neither one was pushing for a trade and Ainge wasn't in a position where everybody knew he had to trade them.

Most of the time all-stars are traded under much different circumstances. If Ainge was that far off with his asking price he wouldn't have found 2 teams willing to deal with him.

If both of these players stay healthy, it's very possible DA will only get a handful of late 1sts out it. Even if he gets a high pick or 2, it doesn't guarantee he won't miss on his pick.

Regardless of people already declaring Ainge the uncontested winner, it's very possible he ends up losing both trades.
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Post#1642 » by Diop » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:44 am

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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Whoa what is this

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Whispers of drug use and/or inappropriate relations but no official information.


Per ESPN:

Boston Celtics coach Ime Udoka is facing disciplinary action expected to include a significant suspension for his role in a consensual, intimate relationship with a female member of the franchise's staff, sources told ESPN on Wednesday night.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34639780/boston-celtics-coach-ime-udoka-facing-potential-disciplinary-action-team-violation-sources-say

if they are both consenting single adults, i understand it might breach team policy but surely it wont be a big suspension
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Post#1643 » by zimpy27 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:54 am

Cappy_Smurf wrote:
Diop wrote:thanks to ainge, this offseason is so crazy with 1st round picks its hard to pin point their value


I really think this idea is being overblown.

Ainge had 2 all stars that both had multiple years left on their contract. Neither one was pushing for a trade and Ainge wasn't in a position where everybody knew he had to trade them.

Most of the time all-stars are traded under much different circumstances. If Ainge was that far off with his asking price he wouldn't have found 2 teams willing to deal with him.

If both of these players stay healthy, it's very possible DA will only get a handful of late 1sts out it. Even if he gets a high pick or 2, it doesn't guarantee he won't miss on his pick.

Regardless of people already declaring Ainge the uncontested winner, it's very possible he ends up losing both trades.


Agreed. This has been the going rate for stars for some time.

Gobert is an all-NBA and DPOY level player on a long contract.
Mitchell has an offensive game that appears to be potent in the playoffs. He's All-NBA borderline - getting votes each year. And he's young.

Davis got way more than either and he was on an expiring deal.
Jrue was always under-appreciated until he was able to shine on the Bucks and the bucks tricked the Pels with the uncertainty of Giannis not signing. That upside of the Bucks wasn't as good as it seemed prior to the deal and that's why Bucks got such a good deal.
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Post#1644 » by gambitx777 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:03 am

Diop wrote:
loserX wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Whispers of drug use and/or inappropriate relations but no official information.


Per ESPN:

Boston Celtics coach Ime Udoka is facing disciplinary action expected to include a significant suspension for his role in a consensual, intimate relationship with a female member of the franchise's staff, sources told ESPN on Wednesday night.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34639780/boston-celtics-coach-ime-udoka-facing-potential-disciplinary-action-team-violation-sources-say

if they are both consenting single adults, i understand it might breach team policy but surely it wont be a big suspension
If he wasn't in direct leadership above her/him I don't see the issue.

Jeanine buss and Phil are sitting somewhere on the sofa somewhere reading this new and glancing over at each other lol.

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Post#1645 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:11 am

gambitx777 wrote:
Diop wrote:

if they are both consenting single adults, i understand it might breach team policy but surely it wont be a big suspension
If he wasn't in direct leadership above her/him I don't see the issue.

Jeanine buss and Phil are sitting somewhere on the sofa somewhere reading this new and glancing over at each other lol.

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Did Phil reports to Jeannie when he was coaching the Lakers? Or did he report to Dr Jerry? To me, that would make a world of difference here.
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Post#1646 » by CallMeKahn » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:26 am

Maybe Ime should have stuck to a white collar crime.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#1647 » by Slava » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:27 am

gambitx777 wrote:
Diop wrote:

if they are both consenting single adults, i understand it might breach team policy but surely it wont be a big suspension
If he wasn't in direct leadership above her/him I don't see the issue.

Jeanine buss and Phil are sitting somewhere on the sofa somewhere reading this new and glancing over at each other lol.

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Jeanie was super careful when Phil asked her out to report up the chain of command that they were dating prior to their relationship. She mentions this in several interviews. They weren't having a sexual relationship in secret.
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Post#1648 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:37 pm

Woj saying they’re talking about suspending him the entire season and I feel like there are some details here we’re not getting.
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Post#1649 » by Colbinii » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:03 pm

CallMeKahn wrote:Maybe Ime should have stuck to a white collar crime.


He didn't commit a crime...He Broke his teams policy.
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Post#1650 » by zimpy27 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:11 pm

Thought I'd post this here as I haven't heard this guy speak for years
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Post#1651 » by babyjax13 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:14 pm

I really don't understand why you would suspend a coach for an entire season, just fire him. By suspending him one season the team has to adjust to a new coach in year 1, then adjust back to the old coach again in year 2. That seems like too big of a distraction.
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Post#1652 » by CallMeKahn » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:26 pm

Colbinii wrote:
CallMeKahn wrote:Maybe Ime should have stuck to a white collar crime.


He didn't commit a crime...He Broke his teams policy.


Exactly.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#1653 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:29 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Woj saying they’re talking about suspending him the entire season and I feel like there are some details here we’re not getting.



Agreed. Seems like it has to be an issue of a direct report (and just how consensual can a direct report situation be if one controls the professional future of the other?), but probably also some sort of hiding it or lying to the team when they asked about it? Maybe something else, but here has to be more (that will eventually come out) for it to be a full season.
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Post#1654 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:32 pm

I need more details but I'll assume the Celtics have a pretty clear HR policy on these matters and so regardless of the nature of the relationship I'd be surprised to think Udoka is being treated unfairly. Especially since the team has a lot invested in him and he coached them to the Finals last year.

I get some just want to take their personal views and run with their preferred narrative but I'd caution that. Especially when it flies in the face of common sense.
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Post#1655 » by jasonxxx102 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:39 pm

Pistons/Jazz in talks for Bojan/KO swap. Poor Lakers aren't gonna get anyone :lol:
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Post#1656 » by toooskies » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:44 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I need more details but I'll assume the Celtics have a pretty clear HR policy on these matters and so regardless of the nature of the relationship I'd be surprised to think Udoka is being treated unfairly. Especially since the team has a lot invested in him and he coached them to the Finals last year.

I get some just want to take their personal views and run with their preferred narrative but I'd caution that. Especially when it flies in the face of common sense.

It's unlikely that there's a corporate policy that spells out something like a season-long suspension, because a season-long suspension would really only be the punishment that you could use on, like, three people in the entire organization-- did something serious enough that they need to take such a long break, but also valuable enough to stay affiliated with the team.
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Post#1657 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:05 pm

“Likely” the whole season wow

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Post#1658 » by zimpy27 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:13 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:“Likely” the whole season wow

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It is a big deal, only female staff member, doesn't look good. Probably fired if he wasn't so successful last season.
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Post#1659 » by facothomas22 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:15 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:Pistons/Jazz in talks for Bojan/KO swap. Poor Lakers aren't gonna get anyone :lol:



They might as well prepare to trade both Lebron and AD next Summer. They have no assets to trade and they will only 25-30 million dollars in cap space next summer, which won't be enough to fill in their roster. It's time for that front Office to accept reality and move on from Lebron/AD experiment in the next off season.
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Post#1660 » by CallMeKahn » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:18 pm

Weaver showing it's possible to fleece Ainge in nickle-and-dime trades. Wow, horrible trade for Utah. The spin is even worse given Utah has UMPTEEN MILLION GUARDS ON THE BLOODY ROSTER!!!

Wow, I'm saltier than I should be. I would have expected a 2nd rounder or something at least.
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Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.

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