Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

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Re: Update: Celtics HC, Ime Udoka to be suspended for entire season 

Post#601 » by Eyeamok » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:46 pm

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The PERCENTAGE of marriages that end in divorce has not gotten lower.

There is a difference a rate & a percentage.

Amazing that this needs to be explained.

“One google search” is all it takes lol.

even with that factor, the divorce % has been decreasing since the 1980s


Man with the cost of housing and the rise in inflation who can afford to get divorced? Divorce is now reserved for the really rich. :D
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#603 » by Capn'O » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:46 pm

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wow09 wrote:Why even bother putting this out with all this vague info it only leads to speculation which makes this whole thing get talked about more and likely makes it seem worse than it is.


For the entertainment value. Whoever leaked the story probably hates Ime and has an axe to grind. Or they just “did it for the lulz”


I wonder who in the Celtics organization might have an axe to grind with Ime or either of the women involved.

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Post#604 » by AleksandarN » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:47 pm

Saberestar wrote:It is just sex and this isn't a problem at all...but oh well, you know that people want to have high moral standards lol.

What a world...


You don’t obviously run a business. This can open liability issues for any company if this happens. Nothing to do with moral standards
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#605 » by Dubnation » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:50 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Duke4life831 wrote:Well I think I have finally got to the point where even I can admit Im the guy that must be no fan at parties haha.

Honestly the first thing I thin about with this story is, how crappy Ime's fiance must feel, how crappy the husband or husbands must feel, if this did involve women that had children, how crappy they must be feeling right now.


I'd venture to say the emotion is more of 'embarrassment'. The entanglements seem to organized and I've seen such organization before in lifestyle circles. I think the parties that may have the biggest problem with this situation are the kids and the Celtic organization.


I get this entire thing is speculation, but if this was all copesthetic for the parties involved, I dont see this becoming a major storyline like this. This most definitely has the feel of some really pissed off people who want him gone and the work environment is now shot because of what happened. I dont see that being the situation if everyone involved was cool with it.


Agreed that it's speculation at this point. You may have a point about one of the parties not 'going with the program'. I just find it hard to believe that any of the principal players in this drama had no idea of what was going on. I find it more likely that a '3rd party' decided to blow the whistle, which is very common in workplace grievances.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#606 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:50 pm

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I think what people are missing is it wasn't consensual to the other parties involved soon to be wives or husbands..

If it was that simple it wouldn't be a big deal...but the truth is he wrecked other people's lives.

He deserves to be fired for his actions and blackballed from the league.

Cheating is a.terrible thing that does so much harm to the lives of the people it effects.

This is **** insane.

Your employer is not the morality police.


In many cases, they are. Morality clauses are very common these days, and actually more prominent than the small print on many employment agreements in the HR packet.



Beyond that... Udoka is compromising the brand, creating a PR disaster and potentially costing them customers directly because of his conduct.

Screaming racial epithets or wearing only Lakers gear as a Celtics employee is also not against the law... but it's bad for business in 2022.
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Post#607 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:52 pm

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Antinomy wrote:I’m not justifying what he did, but some of you are gassing up the Nia Long thing — she’s 52, not 30.

She’s still fine, but she’s not fine-fine. She’s 50-fine.

And they were together for 12 years or so. At some point, human nature starts to kick in. (We also don’t even know their relationship status)

On the flip side, the staffer he was involved with is actually married! And it’s to the guy she went to high school with.


I had to google this person and once I saw she was in her 50's I couldn't believe the responses. Sorry but rich powerful guys are always going to be looking for younger women. Most guys control themselves as there's more to life than a shag, but everyone's at the very least looking just a bit. We're still human.


We are looking a lot not just a little bit. Most men think the internet was created for sports, porn and porn. And I don't think they are wrong. :lol:


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Post#608 » by ClubLakers KB8 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:53 pm

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Saberestar wrote:It is just sex and this isn't a problem at all...but oh well, you know that people want to have high moral standards lol.

What a world...


You don’t obviously run a business. This can open liability issues for any company if this happens. Nothing to do with moral standards


This. If a worker in my office banged the significant other of a superior? Holy smokes. Gone before they can blink. And that wouldn't be trending Twitter news like this.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#609 » by HotRocks34 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:53 pm

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/22/nba-boston-celtics-udoka-is-a-dummy-i-guess/

Boston Globe guy apparently says Udoka will be suspended for a year.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#610 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:56 pm

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I'd venture to say the emotion is more of 'embarrassment'. The entanglements seem to organized and I've seen such organization before in lifestyle circles. I think the parties that may have the biggest problem with this situation are the kids and the Celtic organization.


I get this entire thing is speculation, but if this was all copesthetic for the parties involved, I dont see this becoming a major storyline like this. This most definitely has the feel of some really pissed off people who want him gone and the work environment is now shot because of what happened. I dont see that being the situation if everyone involved was cool with it.


Agreed that it's speculation at this point. You may have a point about one of the parties not 'going with the program'. I just find it hard to believe that any of the principal players in this drama had no idea of what was going on. I find it more likely that a '3rd party' decided to blow the whistle, which is very common in workplace grievances.


Im just looking at what is the more likely scenario.

Ime is messing around with an executives wife and the executive is cool with it. Someone else finds out and reports it and now Ime may lose his job or at minimum be suspended for a very long time.

or

Ime is messing around with an executive's wife and the executive finds out and isnt cool with it. Is beyond pissed off and reports it. Now the Celtics have a work environment which is extremely toxic and dysfunctional.

I just feel like scenario #2 is the most likely scenario. That to me fits what is being reported about what the Celtics organization is currently talking about. There is talks of Ime resigning, suspending him for a year or flat out firing him. To me that sounds more than a relationship everyone is cool about but maybe viewed as kind of embarrassing. And it sounds like the Celtics organization knows they have a very toxic situation on hand and are trying to figure out if him being away for a year will be enough for it all to die down, or if he needs to go for good. Just seems to fit scenario #2 more in my opinion.
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Post#611 » by mj234eva » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:56 pm

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Post#612 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:57 pm

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AleksandarN wrote:
Saberestar wrote:It is just sex and this isn't a problem at all...but oh well, you know that people want to have high moral standards lol.

What a world...


You don’t obviously run a business. This can open liability issues for any company if this happens. Nothing to do with moral standards


This. If a worker in my office banged the significant other of a superior? Holy smokes. Gone before they can blink. And that wouldn't be trending Twitter news like this.


In the moment of a twinkling of an eye…

I don’t have adequate words to describe how quickly someone would be fired at my company for this. Like they’d be fired before they could even get on the elevator.
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Post#613 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:58 pm

Dubnation wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
I think what people are missing is it wasn't consensual to the other parties involved soon to be wives or husbands..

If it was that simple it wouldn't be a big deal...but the truth is he wrecked other people's lives.

He deserves to be fired for his actions and blackballed from the league.

Cheating is a.terrible thing that does so much harm to the lives of the people it effects.

This is **** insane.

Your employer is not the morality police.


In many cases, they are. Morality clauses are very common these days, and actually more prominent than the small print on many employment agreements in the HR packet.


Like someone noted before, the workplace just called them "morality" clauses because in reality they're don't do **** that is abuse of power and the company can be sued for clauses. The company doesn't care about morality, but are forced to put in rules for abuses of power being against policy so they have some defense in court.
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Re: Woj/Shams - Ime Udoka is likely facing a suspension for the entire season - inappropriate consensual relationship 

Post#614 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:59 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Dubnation wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
I get this entire thing is speculation, but if this was all copesthetic for the parties involved, I dont see this becoming a major storyline like this. This most definitely has the feel of some really pissed off people who want him gone and the work environment is now shot because of what happened. I dont see that being the situation if everyone involved was cool with it.


Agreed that it's speculation at this point. You may have a point about one of the parties not 'going with the program'. I just find it hard to believe that any of the principal players in this drama had no idea of what was going on. I find it more likely that a '3rd party' decided to blow the whistle, which is very common in workplace grievances.


Im just looking at what is the more likely scenario.

Ime is messing around with an executives wife and the executive is cool with it. Someone else finds out and reports it and now Ime may lose his job or at minimum be suspended for a very long time.

or

Ime is messing around with an executive's wife and the executive finds out and isnt cool with it. Is beyond pissed off and reports it. Now the Celtics have a work environment which is extremely toxic and dysfunctional.

I just feel like scenario #2 is the most likely scenario. That to me fits what is being reported about what the Celtics organization is currently talking about. There is talks of Ime resigning, suspending him for a year or flat out firing him. To me that sounds more than a relationship everyone is cool about but maybe viewed as kind of embarrassing. And it sounds like the Celtics organization knows they have a very toxic situation on hand and are trying to figure out if him being away for a year will be enough for it all to die down, or if he needs to go for good. Just seems to fit scenario #2 more in my opinion.


That’s why scenario 2 is the only one I’m considering at this point.
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Post#615 » by SlovenianDragon » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:59 pm

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Eyeamok wrote:
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I had to google this person and once I saw she was in her 50's I couldn't believe the responses. Sorry but rich powerful guys are always going to be looking for younger women. Most guys control themselves as there's more to life than a shag, but everyone's at the very least looking just a bit. We're still human.


We are looking a lot not just a little bit. Most men think the internet was created for sports, porn and porn. And I don't think they are wrong. :lol:


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Post#616 » by Dubnation » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:00 pm

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You don’t obviously run a business. This can open liability issues for any company if this happens. Nothing to do with moral standards


This. If a worker in my office banged the significant other of a superior? Holy smokes. Gone before they can blink. And that wouldn't be trending Twitter news like this.


In the moment of a twinkling of an eye…

I don’t have adequate words to describe how quickly someone would be fired at my company for this. Like they’d be fired before they could even get on the elevator.


:lol: Well they would have to be escorted out after they gathered their belongings. lol
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Post#617 » by WRau1 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:01 pm

Those away games for BOS are going to be hilarious.
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Post#618 » by GSWFan1994 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:02 pm

Ime thought he was just collecting... hymens.

I think he will end up resigning. The fallout is just too great to not happen.
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Post#619 » by TwitterFingers » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:04 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:
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Duffman100 wrote:An entire season for this? Seems like a huge punishment for a consensual relationship.


I think what people are missing is it wasn't consensual to the other parties involved soon to be wives or husbands..

If it was that simple it wouldn't be a big deal...but the truth is he wrecked other people's lives.

He deserves to be fired for his actions and blackballed from the league.

Cheating is a.terrible thing that does so much harm to the lives of the people it effects.

This is **** insane.

Your employer is not the morality police.


Agreed. However when you have an affair with the wife of one of your bosses you lose your job, I’m surprised that isn’t the case here. Celtics must really value this guy as a coach.
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Post#620 » by DaeDae » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:05 pm

Dubnation wrote:
DaeDae wrote:
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This. If a worker in my office banged the significant other of a superior? Holy smokes. Gone before they can blink. And that wouldn't be trending Twitter news like this.


In the moment of a twinkling of an eye…

I don’t have adequate words to describe how quickly someone would be fired at my company for this. Like they’d be fired before they could even get on the elevator.


:lol: Well they would have to be escorted out after they gathered their belongings. lol


HR would FaceTime their asses from the parking lot. “What you want me to put in this box, homey”? :lol:
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