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Re: Pascal is on the brink of SUPERSTARDOM... 

Post#81 » by will » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:04 pm

It's all for naught if the production doesn't translate into wins.
Everyone settle down. 3 games into the season.
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Post#82 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:06 pm

Where's the thread with people swearing up and down he's just a top 30 player and not a first option?
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Post#83 » by DG88 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:07 pm

I think Siakam has turned to corner on being a #1 option. Why you may ask well look at what he's been able to do to a defense. Before he would be trying to process what the defense will do next when he makes a move. We saw this during the 2020-2021 season. Also when he started to be a better playmaker. Now he's manipulating defenses, making them try to double him since he can see 3 steps ahead and make the read he knows is coming.

Kyrie said it after the Brooklyn game. We're going to see more of him flirting with triple doubles throughout the year because he can manipulate a defense. That's what separates star players from solid players.
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Post#84 » by JB7 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:16 pm

hype_2004 wrote:To me he's a Pippen type of player, not good enough to win as the man but Ideal Robin to a Batman. He has proven himself to be a great sidekick to Kawhi as he thrived on feasting against secondary defenders. We will need to acquire a Batman or hopefully we develop one in Barnes sooner rather than later.


His play might be great enough for the Raps to actually move him for a #1 option (KD). The team has enough players that can play the #2 or #3 roles in FVV, Barnes and OG.

Still waiting on the eventual blow up of the Nets. It is coming....

The more PS increases his value, the less draft capital the Raps would need to move in a deal of PS & GTJ for KD and Curry.
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Post#85 » by canada_dry » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:31 pm

MikeM wrote:Half this board shouldn't even be allowed to post in this thread after slagging him post bubble. Imagine not being behind this guy who leaves it all on the court every single game and came from nothing.


Big facts. Very shameless.
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Post#86 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:42 pm

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Yeezus_ wrote:It just needs to translate to more wins for the team.


That would require epic improvements from two starters.. Trent and OG...

Pascal has more than done his part....


Exactly. Those two have to step it up big time.
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Post#87 » by HiJiNX » Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:47 pm

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Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:It just needs to translate to more wins for the team.


That would require epic improvements from two starters.. Trent and OG...

Pascal has more than done his part....


Exactly. Those two have to step it up big time.

And OG and Trent don’t need to do much to step it up. All they gotta do is stop wasting possessions with horrible shot selection.
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Post#88 » by TheRaptor! » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:01 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Live Free wrote:He won't be on the brink of anything until he's the best player on the court in a playoff series.

We all know regular season warriors


Was Tatum the best player in any series last year? KD, Giannis, Butler and Curry.


good point actually.

Thats why Curry came out victorious in the end and Tatum has 0 rings.

also why we have our first ring, because Kawhi was better than Steph in 2019
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Post#89 » by Raptors_Dynasty » Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:56 pm

The only thing lacking from Pascal for me that is preventing him from being a superstar is he doesn't impose his will and doesn't hit timely shots consistently.

He is fantastic at working within the flow of the game, finding pockets to exploit. But when it comes down to a critical moment, when we need a point desperately, he has never been consistently able to impose his will or get a clutch and timely bucket. On top of that, he doesn't always DEMAND the ball in these moments. He's okay being a spectator at times.

That being said he's surpassed all my expectations seeing how good he is now. I see him as an upper-echelon all-star, but not a superstar
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Post#90 » by NBA Sheady » Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:44 pm

He looks comfortable as a first option for the first time.
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Post#91 » by Dennis 37 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:07 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Siakam is averaging 28ppg/10rpg/7apg through 3 games vs. strong playoff teams (CLE, BKN, MIA) while shooting 53% from the field this season.
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Now you might say "that's only a 3 game sample" but he's been putting up these exact numbers for quite some time now dating back to last season...

He averaged 27ppg/9rpg/6apg over the course of the last 20 games of last season, while shooting 52% from the field.

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So all together we have a reliable 24 game sample to come to the conclusion that this is the new norm for Siakam. He's quite easily a top 15 player in the league (IMO) and only continues to get better.
It's also worth noting that 15 of his last 24 games (excluding the playoffs) came against playoff teams, so he's been putting up ELITE numbers against ELITE opposition.


These are MVP numbers folks. People laughed at this man when he said he wants to be a top 5 player. I can easily see him finishing the season as a top 10 player in the league.

Spoiler:
There's no slowing him down. You can see a bit of a change in his demeanor this season as well.. from crossing his arms after splashing a 3 in the defenders face, as to say it's too easy for him, to yelling "I CAN DO THAT, I CAN DO THAT TOO" to the crowd after hitting some step back Js. We're only a couple games into the season but you can tell Pascal is brimming with confidence right now. He's on the verge of superstardom!

Something Rico during training camp really stood out to me, "Pascal is addicted to being great" and he also said something along the lines of Siakam being a MEAN player now. Rico knows Pascal better than anyone and if there's one man that isn't surprised with how Siakam has been performing, it's him.

Buckle up, this is gonna be one SPICY season. Siakam is on one!!! :onfire:

TLDR: Siakam is averaging about 28ppg/10rpg/7apg over his last 24 teams (15 of which have come against playoff teams) while shooting nearly 53% from the field.

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I didn't laugh, but I had concerns. Would he and Fred become Kyle and DeMar in that no one else would get the ball? JV fighting in the post to achieve advantage and a clear pass path? Toss it to DeMar. Rinse and repeat.

I am happy to see that this is not the case.
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Post#92 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:19 pm

will wrote:It's all for naught if the production doesn't translate into wins.
Everyone settle down. 3 games into the season.

Most people are capable of realizing one player does not make or break wins. If we continue to lose with Siakam putting up 28/10/7 it won't be because of Siakam.
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Post#93 » by will » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:21 pm

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will wrote:It's all for naught if the production doesn't translate into wins.
Everyone settle down. 3 games into the season.

Most people are capable of realizing one player does not make or break wins. If we continue to lose with Siakam putting up 28/10/7 it won't be because of Siakam.


Reality is that if the Raptors win and Siakam puts up numbers, that top 5/superstardom/elite talk is justified.

If not, then it's just the Raps real GM board doing Raps real GM board things.

We don't need to deep it too much.
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Post#94 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:22 pm

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Los_29 wrote:
Live Free wrote:He won't be on the brink of anything until he's the best player on the court in a playoff series.

We all know regular season warriors


Was Tatum the best player in any series last year? KD, Giannis, Butler and Curry.


good point actually.

Thats why Curry came out victorious in the end and Tatum has 0 rings.

also why we have our first ring, because Kawhi was better than Steph in 2019

Kawhi 29-10-4
Curry 30-5-6

I am not sure Kawhi was better. I am not even sure Siakam was better than Draymond. However, the rest of our roster destroyed Golden State.

Lowry outplayed Draymond, and then FVV/Ibaka/Gasol easily outplayed Iggy/Cousins/Looney. Even Danny Green who played like **** was still better than a lot of the GS rotation.

We won that finals because we had 7 dudes who were legit starter material. Golden State had 3.
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Post#95 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:24 pm

will wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
will wrote:It's all for naught if the production doesn't translate into wins.
Everyone settle down. 3 games into the season.

Most people are capable of realizing one player does not make or break wins. If we continue to lose with Siakam putting up 28/10/7 it won't be because of Siakam.


Reality is that if the Raptors win and Siakam puts up numbers, that top 5/superstardom/elite talk is justified.

If not, then it's just the Raps real GM board doing Raps real GM board things.

We don't need to deep it too much.

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.
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Post#96 » by will » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:26 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
will wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Most people are capable of realizing one player does not make or break wins. If we continue to lose with Siakam putting up 28/10/7 it won't be because of Siakam.


Reality is that if the Raptors win and Siakam puts up numbers, that top 5/superstardom/elite talk is justified.

If not, then it's just the Raps real GM board doing Raps real GM board things.

We don't need to deep it too much.

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.


Elite players win. That is all.
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Post#97 » by Los_29 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:28 pm

TheRaptor! wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Live Free wrote:He won't be on the brink of anything until he's the best player on the court in a playoff series.

We all know regular season warriors


Was Tatum the best player in any series last year? KD, Giannis, Butler and Curry.


good point actually.

Thats why Curry came out victorious in the end and Tatum has 0 rings.

also why we have our first ring, because Kawhi was better than Steph in 2019


What happened the previous year then when Steph missed the playoffs? Lol.
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Post#98 » by Los_29 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:32 pm

Gold Dragon wrote:
Los_29 wrote:This is what people were looking at in the offseason when they claimed he has a chance to be a top 10 player. Those are absolutely top 10 numbers so I really don't get why there was some backlash there.


Someone better inform a certain poster that all these folks are just aliases of us 4 delusional homers. We wouldn’t want to upset the reality they’ve constructed.


For sure. I can’t believe some people think 25/10/7 on great percentages and great defense doesn’t warrant top 10 consideration.

I’ve never seen a fan base disrespect their own players as much as ours does. Lol.
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Post#99 » by NBJ13 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:39 pm

will wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
will wrote:
Reality is that if the Raptors win and Siakam puts up numbers, that top 5/superstardom/elite talk is justified.

If not, then it's just the Raps real GM board doing Raps real GM board things.

We don't need to deep it too much.

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.


Elite players win. That is all.


This is why we saw Demar in MVP convo last year, he kept hitting a string of game winning clutch shots to compliment his high scoring.

We have yet to see this consistently from Pascal. I hope he cleans up his FT shooting too.
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Post#100 » by Los_29 » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:42 pm

will wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
will wrote:
Reality is that if the Raptors win and Siakam puts up numbers, that top 5/superstardom/elite talk is justified.

If not, then it's just the Raps real GM board doing Raps real GM board things.

We don't need to deep it too much.

If Siakam puts up 28/10/7 on 58.5TS% IDC If we win 25 games or 65 games - it would not change Siakam's abilities. It is just ridiculous to suggest a player is better or worse based on the performance of his teammates.


Elite players win. That is all.


Lebron never did until he went to Miami.

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