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Post#741 » by carnageta » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:13 am

I honestly don't know who's worse right now.. Lowry or Westbrook.

On one hand, at least Lowry can take charges.. on the other hand, at least Russ' can throw a proper alley-oop pass.

Sigh..
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Post#742 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:21 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Bam in Toronto would be all nba, he’s neutered here


You seem to really press on Mr. Adebayo is he your favorite player?


3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.


Oh yeah he's definitely an elite talent, athletically especially. He's definitely a scoring focal point when needed. Bams attitude and motor impress me big time.
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Post#743 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:23 am

marson wrote:So weird to see Precious looks like a different player now, he looked like another butterfingered Joel Anthony in his 1st year here.


Precious has been subpar but this performance was pretty good tonight. Maybe he will turn it around now. His shooting is questionable.
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Post#744 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:26 am

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balla345 wrote:A Bam Precious Butler Herro Dragic lineup would be insane even with the no spacing but precious makes 3s now so who knows.

Spo would have never played Precious the way Toronto is. He never even tried to play him with Bam


Bam in Toronto would be all nba, he’s neutered here


Let's trade him for Durant
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Post#745 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:29 am

carnageta wrote:I honestly don't know who's worse right now.. Lowry or Westbrook.

On one hand, at least Lowry can take charges.. on the other hand, at least Russ' can throw a proper alley-oop pass.

Sigh..


Has he just never played with a lob threat? His lobs tonight were god awful
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Post#746 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:30 am

carnageta wrote:I honestly don't know who's worse right now.. Lowry or Westbrook.

On one hand, at least Lowry can take charges.. on the other hand, at least Russ' can throw a proper alley-oop pass.

Sigh..


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Post#747 » by MorbidHEAT » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:34 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:The handling of Yurtsevin and now Jovic may turn off a lot of free agents from signing here going forward. Just saying.


They are first and second year players so I don't think it'll really impact anything because we have a good track record for projects. However, Yurt was mismanaged and Jovic will probably be mismanaged too.

Watching that game led me to one conclusion: A lineup of Dragic, Herro, Butler, Precious, and Bam would be better than the starting lineup we currently have. Having said that, it's still early enough to fix things. We need to run a lineup with height, which means Bam at the 4 and Yurt at the 5. Dwight Howard isn't on any team. I know his personality is hard to navigate, but he can be effective off the bench for spot minutes. We are position-less enough as a team that a little bit of height changes us completely.

This loss tonight is on Spo. Inserting Highsmith in the game killed the run we were making. Duncan was carrying us for that stretch and he takes him out for Max. Jimmy was on the bench for way too long in the 4th...he should have called a time out to get him in. Poor coaching and decision making all around.

It's a shame Tyler had all those turnovers in the 4th. He was having a really nice game.

Bam is just not the focal point I was hoping he would be so far.

Duncan is on the verge of being benched all season or regaining his minutes. I have faith that he will come back and have a good season, but he needs to be able to stay on the court for more than 50 minutes.

I was against the Lowry signing, but at this point it is what it is. We are wasting Jimmy's prime with poor decision making and contracts. It's still early, but they have work to do.
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Post#748 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:34 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
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Bam in Toronto would be all nba, he’s neutered here


You seem to really press on Mr. Adebayo is he your favorite player?


3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.


Oh and who are your 2 other favorite players and how are they performing?
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Post#749 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:35 am

ShulaDon92 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
You seem to really press on Mr. Adebayo is he your favorite player?


3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.


Oh and who are your 2 other favorite players and how are they performing?


Jimmy and Dame. Jimmy is Jimmy and Dame is killing it
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Post#750 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:39 am

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ShulaDon92 wrote:The handling of Yurtsevin and now Jovic may turn off a lot of free agents from signing here going forward. Just saying.


They are first and second year players so I don't think it'll really impact anything because we have a good track record for projects. However, Yurt was mismanaged and Jovic will probably be mismanaged too. Also, Michael Beasley

Watching that game led me to one conclusion: A lineup of Dragic, Herro, Butler, Precious, and Bam would be better than the starting lineup we currently have. Having said that, it's still early enough to fix things. We need to run a lineup with height, which means Bam at the 4 and Yurt at the 5. Dwight Howard isn't on any team. I know his personality is hard to navigate, but he can be effective off the bench for spot minutes. We are position-less enough as a team that a little bit of height changes us completely. Precious shooting would shrink the court. A guy like Tuckers the guy you want, a big burly version of Keith Askins lol.

This loss tonight is on Spo. Inserting Highsmith in the game killed the run we were making. Duncan was carrying us for that stretch and he takes him out for Max. Jimmy was on the bench for way too long in the 4th...he should have called a time out to get him in. Poor coaching and decision making all around. All losses are on Spo haha

It's a shame Tyler had all those turnovers in the 4th. He was having a really nice game. Yep. He needs to clean that up still. Years later were still waiting.

Bam is just not the focal point I was hoping he would be so far.

Duncan is on the verge of being benched all season or regaining his minutes. I have faith that he will come back and have a good season, but he needs to be able to stay on the court for more than 50 minutes.

I was against the Lowry signing, but at this point it is what it is. We are wasting Jimmy's prime with poor decision making and contracts. It's still early, but they have work to do.


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Post#751 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:40 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
3rd favorite, I just know an elite talent when I see it and we’re not maximizing it. He’s being wasted being used getting everyone else open looks and has been for years now. Leads the league in screen assists. He needs to be a scoring focal point.


Oh and who are your 2 other favorite players and how are they performing?


Jimmy and Dame. Jimmy is Jimmy and Dame is killing it


Dame killed em last night.
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Post#752 » by Wiltside » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:43 am

MorbidHEAT wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:The handling of Yurtsevin and now Jovic may turn off a lot of free agents from signing here going forward. Just saying.


They are first and second year players so I don't think it'll really impact anything because we have a good track record for projects. However, Yurt was mismanaged and Jovic will probably be mismanaged too.

Watching that game led me to one conclusion: A lineup of Dragic, Herro, Butler, Precious, and Bam would be better than the starting lineup we currently have. Having said that, it's still early enough to fix things. We need to run a lineup with height, which means Bam at the 4 and Yurt at the 5. Dwight Howard isn't on any team. I know his personality is hard to navigate, but he can be effective off the bench for spot minutes. We are position-less enough as a team that a little bit of height changes us completely.

This loss tonight is on Spo. Inserting Highsmith in the game killed the run we were making. Duncan was carrying us for that stretch and he takes him out for Max. Jimmy was on the bench for way too long in the 4th...he should have called a time out to get him in. Poor coaching and decision making all around.

It's a shame Tyler had all those turnovers in the 4th. He was having a really nice game.

Bam is just not the focal point I was hoping he would be so far.

Duncan is on the verge of being benched all season or regaining his minutes. I have faith that he will come back and have a good season, but he needs to be able to stay on the court for more than 50 minutes.

I was against the Lowry signing, but at this point it is what it is. We are wasting Jimmy's prime with poor decision making and contracts. It's still early, but they have work to do.


You could make the argument right now that Dragic is a better player than Lowry. Add Precious into the mix and it's a no brainer.

We gave Kyle the contract that he earned in Toronto.
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Post#753 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:46 am

Wiltside wrote:
MorbidHEAT wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:The handling of Yurtsevin and now Jovic may turn off a lot of free agents from signing here going forward. Just saying.


They are first and second year players so I don't think it'll really impact anything because we have a good track record for projects. However, Yurt was mismanaged and Jovic will probably be mismanaged too.

Watching that game led me to one conclusion: A lineup of Dragic, Herro, Butler, Precious, and Bam would be better than the starting lineup we currently have. Having said that, it's still early enough to fix things. We need to run a lineup with height, which means Bam at the 4 and Yurt at the 5. Dwight Howard isn't on any team. I know his personality is hard to navigate, but he can be effective off the bench for spot minutes. We are position-less enough as a team that a little bit of height changes us completely.

This loss tonight is on Spo. Inserting Highsmith in the game killed the run we were making. Duncan was carrying us for that stretch and he takes him out for Max. Jimmy was on the bench for way too long in the 4th...he should have called a time out to get him in. Poor coaching and decision making all around.

It's a shame Tyler had all those turnovers in the 4th. He was having a really nice game.

Bam is just not the focal point I was hoping he would be so far.

Duncan is on the verge of being benched all season or regaining his minutes. I have faith that he will come back and have a good season, but he needs to be able to stay on the court for more than 50 minutes.

I was against the Lowry signing, but at this point it is what it is. We are wasting Jimmy's prime with poor decision making and contracts. It's still early, but they have work to do.


You could make the argument right now that Dragic is a better player than Lowry. Add Precious into the mix and it's a no brainer.

We gave Kyle the contract that he earned in Toronto.


Gotta learn to live with regrets lol.
Dragic was toast last year anyways.

Time to move on.
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Post#754 » by Bishop45 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:54 am

I’ll give Kyle and the team until Dec. before a criticism is made
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Post#755 » by wadenation305 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:20 am

What did everyone expect? Guard guarding centers and everyone playing one to two positions higher than they are supposed to is Spo's calling card. Ever he has been on his small balls boner, that has just been the standard. It's what Spo does year after year. Even Jovic was a 3 and Spo immediately threw him into center in the preseason. Honestly if Spo starts Yurt and Bam he'd bench Yurt after 3 minutes. The only reason he'd start him is to get Riley off his ass. And would pull him at the very first error and replace him with Gabe. Let's not fool ourselves.

Granted right now Yurt is hurt and Jovic is suspended. But then again I'd wager if jovic was not suspended he still wouldn't have played him. It's just what Spo does.

Honestly think back at all the prior seasons and try to recall anytime Spo has made an adjustment that ends up working out ...... it's never because he had a sudden change of heart and said you know what I'm going to do what has been obvious to everyone else. It's because he has had no other option because everyone else is injured. All adjustments ever made is because his hand is forced and is left with no other option. "DoN't LeT Go Of ThE RoPe".

It's a travesty that they looked at this roster and said "you know what would be really good? 6'4/6'5 Caleb at the 4". That probably made Spo hard as a rock. Probably has another baby otw right after he got worked up with his dream.
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Post#756 » by SerialChiller » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:42 am

wadenation305 wrote:What did everyone expect? Guard guarding centers and everyone playing one to two positions higher than they are supposed to is Spo's calling card. Ever he has been on his small balls boner, that has just been the standard. It's what Spo does year after year. Even Jovic was a 3 and Spo immediately threw him into center in the preseason. Honestly if Spo starts Yurt and Bam he'd bench Yurt after 3 minutes. The only reason he'd start him is to get Riley off his ass. And would pull him at the very first error and replace him with Gabe. Let's not fool ourselves.

Granted right now Yurt is hurt and Jovic is suspended. But then again I'd wager if jovic was not suspended he still wouldn't have played him. It's just what Spo does.

Honestly think back at all the prior seasons and try to recall anytime Spo has made an adjustment that ends up working out ...... it's never because he had a sudden change of heart and said you know what I'm going to do what has been obvious to everyone else. It's because he has had no other option because everyone else is injured. All adjustments ever made is because his hand is forced and is left with no other option. "DoN't LeT Go Of ThE RoPe".

It's a travesty that they looked at this roster and said "you know what would be really good? 6'4/6'5 Caleb at the 4". That probably made Spo hard as a rock. Probably has another baby otw right after he got worked up with his dream.


Yep Spo is horrible I don't get why people think he's a good coach. His adjustments are non existent or way too late. Like look at 2010 as a quick example. He starts Bibby who was complete washed trash the entire postseason. Only finally made the switch to Chalmers in like game 5 or 6 of the finals facing elimination, it took that long for him to realize Bibby was killing us lol.
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Post#757 » by fishfuego. » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:46 am

Wiltside wrote:
MorbidHEAT wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:The handling of Yurtsevin and now Jovic may turn off a lot of free agents from signing here going forward. Just saying.


They are first and second year players so I don't think it'll really impact anything because we have a good track record for projects. However, Yurt was mismanaged and Jovic will probably be mismanaged too.

Watching that game led me to one conclusion: A lineup of Dragic, Herro, Butler, Precious, and Bam would be better than the starting lineup we currently have. Having said that, it's still early enough to fix things. We need to run a lineup with height, which means Bam at the 4 and Yurt at the 5. Dwight Howard isn't on any team. I know his personality is hard to navigate, but he can be effective off the bench for spot minutes. We are position-less enough as a team that a little bit of height changes us completely.

This loss tonight is on Spo. Inserting Highsmith in the game killed the run we were making. Duncan was carrying us for that stretch and he takes him out for Max. Jimmy was on the bench for way too long in the 4th...he should have called a time out to get him in. Poor coaching and decision making all around.

It's a shame Tyler had all those turnovers in the 4th. He was having a really nice game.

Bam is just not the focal point I was hoping he would be so far.

Duncan is on the verge of being benched all season or regaining his minutes. I have faith that he will come back and have a good season, but he needs to be able to stay on the court for more than 50 minutes.

I was against the Lowry signing, but at this point it is what it is. We are wasting Jimmy's prime with poor decision making and contracts. It's still early, but they have work to do.


You could make the argument right now that Dragic is a better player than Lowry. Add Precious into the mix and it's a no brainer.

We gave Kyle the contract that he earned in Toronto.


Dragic may be a better offensive player, but not by much really, but the issue on Spo’s system was his defense. Dragic can’t cover 4s nor 5s like Lowry is forced to here lol, and he couldn’t stay in front of his man on rotations, but of course he had a knee surgery I think in one summer here.
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Post#758 » by Jfh20 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:47 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Nothing we can do about it. Pray we don’t have another year of 30 on the books. Give me Westbrook and the salary relief and lets go stealth tank


now were talking. give lal jimmy, take WB of their hands and lets goo full tank.


:lol: we can't tank. It's too late and it would be too obvious. Silver would penalize our draft pick. Good for a gag though.


lol so we cant even make trades now? if lal gives us picks for jimmy and we wana rebuilt, we cant do it now?? since when is rebuild something that is punishable? theres nothing he can do against a team rebuilding. silver has come up with so many dumass ideas its hard to keep track of them all by now, this current one is up there, but that dum in season tourney takes the cake.
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Post#759 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:47 am

wadenation305 wrote:What did everyone expect? Guard guarding centers and everyone playing one to two positions higher than they are supposed to is Spo's calling card. Ever he has been on his small balls boner, that has just been the standard. It's what Spo does year after year. Even Jovic was a 3 and Spo immediately threw him into center in the preseason. Honestly if Spo starts Yurt and Bam he'd bench Yurt after 3 minutes. The only reason he'd start him is to get Riley off his ass. And would pull him at the very first error and replace him with Gabe. Let's not fool ourselves.

Granted right now Yurt is hurt and Jovic is suspended. But then again I'd wager if jovic was not suspended he still wouldn't have played him. It's just what Spo does.

Honestly think back at all the prior seasons and try to recall anytime Spo has made an adjustment that ends up working out ...... it's never because he had a sudden change of heart and said you know what I'm going to do what has been obvious to everyone else. It's because he has had no other option because everyone else is injured. All adjustments ever made is because his hand is forced and is left with no other option. "DoN't LeT Go Of ThE RoPe".

It's a travesty that they looked at this roster and said "you know what would be really good? 6'4/6'5 Caleb at the 4". That probably made Spo hard as a rock. Probably has another baby otw right after he got worked up with his dream.


You're on the money and I'm in total agreement. You've basically pointed out Spos weaknesses. He's old now and he is what he is so you live with the cons. He's not going to change.
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Post#760 » by ShulaDon92 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:50 am

We all know why LeBron left and why Pat Riley is doing this Haslem celebration out of spite.

Spo and Riley are tough hard headed system dudes.

Eat the Haslem vibes Wade and LeBron :lol:

Keith Askins never got a cake did he :roll: :banghead: :lol:

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