MIAMI HEAT @ TORONTO RAPTORS - Kyle Lowry Returns 2 Canada - Oct. 24 @ 7:30 PM EST

[3ammy3uck3ts]

now were talking. give lal jimmy, take WB of their hands and lets goo full tank.

we can't tank. It's too late and it would be too obvious. Silver would penalize our draft pick. Good for a gag though.

lol so we cant even make trades now? if lal gives us picks for jimmy and we wana rebuilt, we cant do it now?? since when is rebuild something that is punishable? theres nothing he can do against a team rebuilding. silver has come up with so many dumass ideas its hard to keep track of them all by now, this current one is up there, but that dum in season tourney takes the cake.

If we’re going to trade Jimmy we better be getting Jaylen Brown or something at minimum, fuxk some picks

[ShulaDon92]

now were talking. give lal jimmy, take WB of their hands and lets goo full tank.

we can't tank. It's too late and it would be too obvious. Silver would penalize our draft pick. Good for a gag though.

lol so we cant even make trades now? if lal gives us picks for jimmy and we wana rebuilt, we cant do it now?? since when is rebuild something that is punishable? theres nothing he can do against a team rebuilding. silver has come up with so many dumass ideas its hard to keep track of them all by now, this current one is up there, but that dum in season tourney takes the cake.

It would be so obvious and you know Silvers already on our ass

[ReturnofMVP3]

It is time for me to go the way of Heat legend Michael Jordan and retire once again. Best of luck to whoever makes the next game thread.

Don’t forget to wear sunscreen and eat your vitamins.

[ShulaDon92]

It is time for me to go the way of Heat legend Michael Jordan and retire once again. Best of luck to whoever makes the next game thread.

Don’t forget to wear sunscreen and eat your vitamins.

See ya. Fck Trump!!!

[fishfuego.]

It is time for me to go the way of Heat legend Michael Jordan and retire once again. Best of luck to whoever makes the next game thread.

Don’t forget to wear sunscreen and eat your vitamins.

RetirementofMVP23

[ShulaDon92]

Watch on YouTube

Spite store.

[MorbidHEAT]

The handling of Yurtsevin and now Jovic may turn off a lot of free

You could make the argument right now that Dragic is a better player than Lowry. Add Precious into the mix and it's a no brainer.

We gave Kyle the contract that he earned in Toronto.

You could make the argument, I don't know if you would win, but you could def make the argument. If Lowry doesn't score at least 12 ppg / 6 assists, with this team, we will never be that good. Lowry and Duncan are crucial to our success. I don't know if either of them has the ability to be consistent anymore.

I like Precious' game more than I thought. Good high energy player. Would have been a good player on this team if we kept him.

[ShulaDon92]

Sorry. I can't delete the multiple posts. Admin, please.

[contract]

I love Spo, best coach in the league. Last night was an absolute coaching malpractice.

Highsmith at the 5 over Jovic?!

4 or 5 guys with more shots than Bam?!

Gabe with 8 shots in the 4th compared to a combined 5 from Herro and Bam?!

Just crazy to me. We’ll see how he adjusts this game.

Last game should’ve been monster 30+ point games for both Herro and Bam and the game that gave us a lot of momentum and confidence in those 2 having truly taken the next step in their games. Spo fumbled it.

My prophecy is coming to light. Finally some of you are opening your eyes. Bad coaching moves have been happening for awhile now, actually since he became our coach. We dont really have much choice really, the league is full of mediocre coaches.

Spo isn't mediocre. Every single team in the NBA, outside of Warriors maybe, would sign him in a heart beat. He's a tremendous couch. I really don't understand all the hate towards him here sometimes

Spo gets the hate because the alternative is to pile it on the guy who builds the roster and manages our cap.

[MHeat0279]

My prophecy is coming to light. Finally some of you are opening your eyes. Bad coaching moves have been happening for awhile now, actually since he became our coach. We dont really have much choice really, the league is full of mediocre coaches.

Spo isn't mediocre. Every single team in the NBA, outside of Warriors maybe, would sign him in a heart beat. He's a tremendous couch. I really don't understand all the hate towards him here sometimes

Spo gets the hate because the alternative is to pile it on the guy who builds the roster and manages our cap.

Both, but specially Spo gets the hate for crap like he did last night not playing Jimmy until the four minutes mark and our team crumbling to the ground, his horrible rotations at times ( sure he will look way better with the 1992 all star team) small ball obsession and refusal to think outside the box, extremely late ingame adjustments. Riley has been slipping for some time now, i mean what the H ell was he thinking making Spo the head coach some questionable signings etc etc and our owner all he can think about is not exceeding the cap. Yeah you will not build a contender like that, we might as well tank and see if we get lucky and land a future all star, otherwise with our team including coaches general managers and owner we are not winning c rap.

[oreon]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

Spo and Riley can be critiqued just like the players can. He’s sucked this season, Riley’s been questionable for years now. We’re not maximizing Jimmys window. The double standards on here are ridiculous

[fishfuego.]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

Spo and Riley can be critiqued just like the players can. He’s sucked this season, Riley’s been questionable for years now. We’re not maximizing Jimmys window. The double standards on here are ridiculous

If Jimmy doesn’t go ham in the ECF, it would have looked worse than it did, and as you can see, it is now being exposed.
Spo is one of the luckiest coaches in the NBA thanks to Wade.
First Wade provided the team with LBJ and Bosh, and secondly he was the reason Jimmy even came down. No amount of Spo will ever bring anything worth a dang. He is just not that coach nor personality. Riley on the other hand was the master but got old.

The record is a tale of having some of the greatest players of all times, and sucking big when not. Spo doesn’t make Duncan nor Strus shoot better beyond one year, so it exposes his system. The small ball trajectory is one draining disadvantage if there ever was one. Rebounds are the Heat’s gift to the NBA. Is Spo the worst coach out there? No.
Is he the best? Hell to the no, not without the Goat players he’s had. He actually is beyond mediocre to bad without them.

[El Alonzo scowl]

Game makes me reminisce about getting Bam his extension ASAP so we didn't have the money to sign Lowry outright in free agency. Good times.

Honestly sickens me how happy the Heat are to overpay and extend guys who don't deserve it. It must disgust DWade everytime he sees it, no wonder he wants nothing to do with the franchise anymore.

I thought Hassan Whiteside was the worst move in Heat history but Kyle Lowry is getting there. He has cost so much in draft picks and money and given us nothing but aggravation.

[MHeat0279]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

How can i hate somebody i dont really care about ? Of course besides the human side of caring about a human being, i dont really care about Spo. I never said he is a bum, but he is mediocre as a coach, you have the good ones, Pop, Riley back in the day, etc etc. I know players will make a coach look very good or very bad, but the coaching job last night was extremely bad, and it was not only last night, he is being like that since he took over the job. No he has not over performed. We won those rings back in the big 3 days in spite of our coach, we should have one more ring if not for Lebron chickening out vs Dallas and SPO not doing his job to get him out of his mental block. Your logic about being one shot away from the finals is a very flawed one, multiple factors took our team to that point, factors which will probably wont happen again.

[DayofMourning]

Game makes me reminisce about getting Bam his extension ASAP so we didn't have the money to sign Lowry outright in free agency. Good times.

Honestly sickens me how happy the Heat are to overpay and extend guys who don't deserve it. It must disgust DWade everytime he sees it, no wonder he wants nothing to do with the franchise anymore.

I thought Hassan Whiteside was the worst move in Heat history but Kyle Lowry is getting there. He has cost so much in draft picks and money and given us nothing but aggravation.

The Bam extension bothered me. Closed the door on flexibility. I'd still like to know why we HAD to do that right then. It hurt us. It closed the door on future moves. It cost us Precious who has slowly started to prove his value. We should have stood our ground and let things play out.

We're starting to become the team that pays their players too much or too soon. Duncan's deal didn't bother me too much at the time but now he's proven to be low value to us. Kyle was paid way too much and isn't deserving of a quarter of what he's gotten paid. I worry about Tyler's deal too. That's a lot of money for a player who gives up as much as he gives. We've got two guys on this team who deserve to be paid well yet we've got a ton of money tied up into guys who aren't living up to their deals.

We can't keep paying premiums on every player.

[oreon]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

Spo and Riley can be critiqued just like the players can. He’s sucked this season, Riley’s been questionable for years now. We’re not maximizing Jimmys window. The double standards on here are ridiculous

If Jimmy doesn’t go ham in the ECF, it would have looked worse than it did, and as you can see, it is now being exposed.
Spo is one of the luckiest coaches in the NBA thanks to Wade.
First Wade provided the team with LBJ and Bosh, and secondly he was the reason Jimmy even came down. No amount of Spo will ever bring anything worth a dang. He is just not that coach nor personality. Riley on the other hand was the master but got old.

The record is a tale of having some of the greatest players of all times, and sucking big when not. Spo doesn’t make Duncan nor Strus shoot better beyond one year, so it exposes his system. The small ball trajectory is one draining disadvantage if there ever was one. Rebounds are the Heat’s gift to the NBA. Is Spo the worst coach out there? No.
Is he the best? Hell to the no, not without the Goat players he’s had. He actually is beyond mediocre to bad without them.

You know whose luckier than Spo
Riley thanks to Magic
Phil Jackson thanks to MJ and Kobe
Steve Kerr thanks to Curry
Greg Popovich see where's at without Tim Duncan

NBA is about top 5 talent. You have one of those on your team you win a chip
GSW- Curry, Bucks - Giannis, Lakers - Lebron, Raps - Kawhi

Heat have done well to get to the finals and ECF without having one of those guys. Jimmy is close and he can elevate himself but he's never been considered a MVP player or a top 5 player

[oreon]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

How can i hate somebody i dont really care about ? Of course besides the human side of caring about a human being, i dont really care about Spo. I never said he is a bum, but he is mediocre as a coach, you have the good ones, Pop, Riley back in the day, etc etc. I know players will make a coach look very good or very bad, but the coaching job last night was extremely bad, and it was not only last night, he is being like that since he took over the job. No he has not over performed. We won those rings back in the big 3 days in spite of our coach, we should have one more ring if not for Lebron chickening out vs Dallas and SPO not doing his job to get him out of his mental block. Your logic about being one shot away from the finals is a very flawed one, multiple factors took our team to that point, factors which will probably wont happen again.

That was Lebron. Not Spo. He had a mental breakdown because everyone was hating on him and rooting for him to fail. Spo ain't a shrink, he wasn't gonna fix mid series and neither was Riley. This was something Lebron had to figure out himself. Should we penalize Spo for not having a PHD in pyshcology lol

[oreon]

Game makes me reminisce about getting Bam his extension ASAP so we didn't have the money to sign Lowry outright in free agency. Good times.

Honestly sickens me how happy the Heat are to overpay and extend guys who don't deserve it. It must disgust DWade everytime he sees it, no wonder he wants nothing to do with the franchise anymore.

I thought Hassan Whiteside was the worst move in Heat history but Kyle Lowry is getting there. He has cost so much in draft picks and money and given us nothing but aggravation.

The Bam extension bothered me. Closed the door on flexibility. I'd still like to know why we HAD to do that right then. It hurt us. It closed the door on future moves. It cost us Precious who has slowly started to prove his value. We should have stood our ground and let things play out.

We're starting to become the team that pays their players too much or too soon. Duncan's deal didn't bother me too much at the time but now he's proven to be low value to us. Kyle was paid way too much and isn't deserving of a quarter of what he's gotten paid. I worry about Tyler's deal too. That's a lot of money for a player who gives up as much as he gives. We've got two guys on this team who deserve to be paid well yet we've got a ton of money tied up into guys who aren't living up to their deals.

We can't keep paying premiums on every player.

The Heat can either tank for 3 years or they can do what they are doing. Which is good but not elite talent and the way the league works you pay your guys or you lose them. They have done remarkably well to maximize the 2nd approach but unfortunately to win a chip you need elite talent.
If fans here want to criticize the Heat for not going with the 1st approach, then that's fair. But its ridiculous the assertions from some people here that the last couple seasons have been failures. People need to look at the talent and be honest about the expectations. Who is the coach that is winning with that team. Ty Lue is considered one of the best coaches and yet clippers lost in play in. There are very few coaches who are taking this Heat to a ECF or a final. Spo did and thats is why he's considered one of the best.
If Heat want to build a multiple year contender than they need to eat the pain for 3 years and build through the draft. And judging from the fans here, if they did they would be criticized.
Its hard to win a chip when your 2nd best player is Bam or Herro and your first is Butler. But at the very least they've done everything else, a finals and a ECF run

[oreon]

Yo this is ridiculous. Just say you hate Spo. Cuz some of Ya'll assessments don't match with reality. We were no 1 seed and a shot away from finals last season. And from some of these posts you'd think we were the Sacramento Kings. Its just funny to see

Sure Spo had a bad coaching game last night, it happens to every coach. That doesn't make him a bum. If you are gonna judge a coach do it by his record in the past couple relative to the talent in the roster. And he has over performed

Now this season looking like a dumpster fire. Not because of coaching but roster construction. They lost a PF they didn't replace and going to the season with only 2 playable wings both who are undersized to play the 4. This is the main issue and Riles is the main culprit. Spo is also to blame as he also takes part in roster decision.

Spo and Riley can be critiqued just like the players can. He’s sucked this season, Riley’s been questionable for years now. We’re not maximizing Jimmys window. The double standards on here are ridiculous

The issue is talent they don't have enough elite talent. If we are being honest this is the best they can do with these assets. We tried for KD, they didn't want our picks. We didn't have the picks for Mitchell. We waited a year for Giannis and he went right back to Bucks.
The only trade that we didn't pursue for a top 10 player was Harden and he wanted Philly.
So which trade could they've done to get that 2nd top 15 player to make us real contenders. Mind you we only have two tradeable first round picks and Herro as real assets. You can also add Bam to that