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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason 2022 Continued 

Post#1861 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:46 pm

Adelheid wrote:problem with the nba draft is that, teams could abuse it year after year after year under the guise of rebuilding until they have a stacked team, compete for a little while...when something doesnt go well, blow it up and repeat the process allthewhile not put up a good product on the floor

I say we either remove the concept of losing so that there are no losing teams looking for a way to improve their talent level.

Or make the poor even poorer e.g. by stripping the worst teams of their best assets and redistributing them to the best teams that evidently do try to win.
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Post#1862 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:47 am

Killian Hayes is currently 0-5 in 12 minutes tonight, with 0 assists and 4 turnovers.

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I feel like Cap should have to get a tattoo or something. In that draft year this kid was his binky, the hill he was planting his flag on, the guy who, if he hit, was going to be the player he referenced being the OG fan of in any message board back and forth about draft prospect analysis credibility. :lol:
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Post#1863 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:23 am

SelbyCobra wrote:Killian Hayes is currently 0-5 in 12 minutes tonight, with 0 assists and 4 turnovers.

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I feel like Cap should have to get a tattoo or something. In that draft year this kid was his binky, the hill he was planting his flag on, the guy who, if he hit, was going to be the player he referenced being the OG fan of in any message board back and forth about draft prospect analysis credibility. :lol:


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Post#1864 » by SelbyCobra » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:36 am

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SelbyCobra wrote:Killian Hayes is currently 0-5 in 12 minutes tonight, with 0 assists and 4 turnovers.

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I feel like Cap should have to get a tattoo or something. In that draft year this kid was his binky, the hill he was planting his flag on, the guy who, if he hit, was going to be the player he referenced being the OG fan of in any message board back and forth about draft prospect analysis credibility. :lol:


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Finished 0-6, 0 PTS, 0 ASST, 5 TO in 17 minutes.

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Post#1865 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:37 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:Killian Hayes is currently 0-5 in 12 minutes tonight, with 0 assists and 4 turnovers.

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I feel like Cap should have to get a tattoo or something. In that draft year this kid was his binky, the hill he was planting his flag on, the guy who, if he hit, was going to be the player he referenced being the OG fan of in any message board back and forth about draft prospect analysis credibility. :lol:


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Post#1866 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:40 am

Box score watching the Clippers is confusing because it's easy to confuse L. Kennard with K. Leonard.
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Post#1867 » by Synciere » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:44 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Adelheid wrote:problem with the nba draft is that, teams could abuse it year after year after year under the guise of rebuilding until they have a stacked team, compete for a little while...when something doesnt go well, blow it up and repeat the process allthewhile not put up a good product on the floor

I say we either remove the concept of losing so that there are no losing teams looking for a way to improve their talent level.

Or make the poor even poorer e.g. by stripping the worst teams of their best assets and redistributing them to the best teams that evidently do try to win.


Best suggestion I’ve heard to remedy that was from Clinton Yates, to have a tournament for the top pick, say the worst four teams.
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Post#1868 » by Galvationknicks » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:47 am

Mavs need Jalen Brunson. How they let him go for nothing is beyond me. Dinwiddie ain't it Dallas
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Post#1869 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:54 am

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Chanel Bomber wrote:
Adelheid wrote:problem with the nba draft is that, teams could abuse it year after year after year under the guise of rebuilding until they have a stacked team, compete for a little while...when something doesnt go well, blow it up and repeat the process allthewhile not put up a good product on the floor

I say we either remove the concept of losing so that there are no losing teams looking for a way to improve their talent level.

Or make the poor even poorer e.g. by stripping the worst teams of their best assets and redistributing them to the best teams that evidently do try to win.


Best suggestion I’ve heard to remedy that was from Clinton Yates, to have a tournament for the top pick, say the worst four teams.

I don't really see the point tbh. I don't think the players will be incentivized to play harder to bring in a rookie who might just take their spot. Besides, the supposed issue with tanking is that it's a year-long thing, and a tournament between the worst teams at the end of the season doesn't remedy that, beyond the fact that it'll be completely unwatchable.

The best "solution" to this absolute non-issue is to flatten the odds even more.

The NBA is a zero-sum game which means there will be bad teams. At some point, we just need to accept that and get over the pointless white horse debate on tanking. That's just my opinion.
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Post#1870 » by robillionaire » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:06 am

Mavs lose to Ingram-less Zion-less pelicans. Slovenian Westbrook 2-13 from 3 lol. 11th pick here we come!
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Post#1871 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:11 am

Remember when people were dry humping the Mavs over one game against the Grizz?....any game is always just one game.

You can look at a box score and say Dinwiddie 'provides' what Brunson does, 25/2/4 on 8-15/4-8/4-5. That's a pretty Brunsonesque stat line...and with Luka running the show I can see how the Mavs FO thought he was easily replaceable but on the floor his presence isn't so easily replaced....the -15 for Dinwiddie can give a clue to the impact.

Of course to the Knicks his presence is monumental in the difference with how the team performs and executes.
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Post#1872 » by Jimmit79 » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:26 am

robillionaire wrote:Mavs lose to Ingram-less Zion-less pelicans. Slovenian Westbrook 2-13 from 3 lol. 11th pick here we come!
Knowing the NBA they would rather help push Mavs into lottery the help us.
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Post#1873 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:32 am

That Dallas pick could be decent. Don't look now but the wizards pick might convey as well. KP/Beal plus decent role players is a competitive team. If we play them in the play in it could get awkward. We could have consecutive picks in the teens.
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Post#1874 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:41 am

stuporman wrote:Remember when people were dry humping the Mavs over one game against the Grizz?....any game is always just one game.

You can look at a box score and say Dinwiddie 'provides' what Brunson does, 25/2/4 on 8-15/4-8/4-5. That's a pretty Brunsonesque stat line...and with Luka running the show I can see how the Mavs FO thought he was easily replaceable but on the floor his presence isn't so easily replaced....the -15 for Dinwiddie can give a clue to the impact.

Of course to the Knicks his presence is monumental in the difference with how the team performs and executes.


Plus Dinwiddie is a giant d*chebag
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Post#1875 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Oct 26, 2022 2:42 am

Capn'O wrote:That Dallas pick could be decent. Don't look now but the wizards pick might convey as well. KP/Beal plus decent role players is a competitive team. If we play them in the play in it could get awkward. We could have consecutive picks in the teens.


Looking forward to Aller trading back 6 times and recouping all the 2nd rounders we lost in pursuit of Brunson
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Post#1876 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:07 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Capn'O wrote:That Dallas pick could be decent. Don't look now but the wizards pick might convey as well. KP/Beal plus decent role players is a competitive team. If we play them in the play in it could get awkward. We could have consecutive picks in the teens.


Looking forward to Aller trading back 6 times and recouping all the 2nd rounders we lost in pursuit of Brunson


Plus getting a few more firsts that people will call trash because the Knicks have them unlike OKC and Utah which own the bestest picks evar!!!
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Post#1877 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:48 am

My issue isn't tanking per se but I don't like it when teams sit healthy players. Look at the wiretap now. Wall was pissed. This was his career. A chance to play and he lost it. The Thunder have done this a few times as well. If you have good players you should have to do something with them be it buy them out or trade them.
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Post#1878 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:25 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
stuporman wrote:Remember when people were dry humping the Mavs over one game against the Grizz?....any game is always just one game.

You can look at a box score and say Dinwiddie 'provides' what Brunson does, 25/2/4 on 8-15/4-8/4-5. That's a pretty Brunsonesque stat line...and with Luka running the show I can see how the Mavs FO thought he was easily replaceable but on the floor his presence isn't so easily replaced....the -15 for Dinwiddie can give a clue to the impact.

Of course to the Knicks his presence is monumental in the difference with how the team performs and executes.


Plus Dinwiddie is a giant d*chebag

just 'cos you're too old skool for genuis crypto-visionaries.
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Post#1879 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:42 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:Killian Hayes is currently 0-5 in 12 minutes tonight, with 0 assists and 4 turnovers.

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I feel like Cap should have to get a tattoo or something. In that draft year this kid was his binky, the hill he was planting his flag on, the guy who, if he hit, was going to be the player he referenced being the OG fan of in any message board back and forth about draft prospect analysis credibility. :lol:


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spearsy23 wrote:I'm excited now, maledon was a guy I wanted.

Full disclosure, last time I was more excited about a 2nd rounder than a first was semaj over mcgary

And maybe you expected him instead of Poku at first round.
Poku is a great potential but essentially played in greek 2d level, not euroleague...
Maledon is the steal of this draft. This guy only speaks on the court, and with an injury at the beginning of last season, COVID crisis when he reached his level, and a draft process off the court, he felt. But I couldn't imagine such a fall. I mean IMO he is same level than Killian Hayes. But I imagine playing Euroleague or Eurocup is the same thing in GMs' mind ...

I have to agree with this take - and the diagnosis. #34 for Maledon is absurdly low - I have him as better than Hayes at this point and I don't see that much difference in potential.
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Post#1880 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:01 am

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SelbyCobra wrote:Killian Hayes is currently 0-5 in 12 minutes tonight, with 0 assists and 4 turnovers.

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I feel like Cap should have to get a tattoo or something. In that draft year this kid was his binky, the hill he was planting his flag on, the guy who, if he hit, was going to be the player he referenced being the OG fan of in any message board back and forth about draft prospect analysis credibility. :lol:


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