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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#561 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:10 pm

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Eric Bieniemy wrote:Westbrook, Walker, Nunn, Reaves, Christie, Bryant, Beverley, and two unprotected firsts

for

Ball, Rozier, Hayward, Oubre, Plumlee, and Bouknight

Lakers get a star and additional shooting and wing depth.

Charlotte tanks for Web, clears all their salary, and gets young prospects and two very valuable unprotected picks for Ball (who they know/think won't resign).


I like rozier, Hayward, and Pj Washington... for Westbrook, Christie, nunn, and the next available unprotected pic

Unprotected picks five years out from a middling team led by a damn-near 40 year old are valuable as hell. The Lakers were able to draft Magic Johnson and James Worthy with unprotected picks given to them by foolishly ran franchises. I'm extremely proud of Pelinka for standing his ground. Teams are obviously bending the Lakers over. I only give up an unprotected pick for a special player (ie. Ball or Irving). Otherwise, these teams can kick rocks. The Lakers gave up way too much for Davis and way too much for Westbrook. At some point you have to stop giving teams blank checks.


The price of all of this are championships. we did give up a lot for Anthony Davis, but we won a championship. The dumbest mistake we ever did was blow up our team, after winning that championship.

For somebody who has such high IQ, LeBron James made a huge mistake by pushing the front office. Westbrook was the biggest mistake our franchise has probably ever made, I can't recall a bigger mistake from the opportunity at hand. we don't do well with rebuilding, and we don't have the patience to hold on to players that are actually decent.

I know some mentioned players such as Lillard and Beal were talked about. I think if we can trade three picks for somebody like Kevin Durant and Seth Curry for Westbrook,Christie, and nunn. we will be solid for a good amount of years
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#562 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:26 pm

In order of preference:

1.) Westbrook, christie, nunn and three picks for KD and seth. (with the Brooklyn nets having the lowest ticket sales, and a losing record right now, they might want to blow it up all together) I can see Kyrie Irving asking for a buyout soon afterwards which we would have already created an extra roster spot for via this trade.

2.) Westbrook, nunn, christie and two picks for derozan and vucevic

3.) Westbrook, nunn, christie and two picks for beal and kuz.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#563 » by SK21209 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:00 pm

As much as I'd love to hold out hope for a Lillard/Beal/LaMelo/DeRozan+Vucevic trade if one of those teams decides to say **** it, we'd probably be outbid on any of those. Even if those guys said they wanted to be Lakers, none except Vucevic will be free agents soon and KD just showed us how toothless a trade demand can be without the threat of leaving in free agency. Another team would be able to offer more FRPs or a young player and the same FRPs.

It seems like we could probably have Hield/Turner or Rozier/2 out of 3 of Hayward/Oubre/Washington right now for both picks if we wanted to, and each deal could maybe be negotiated down to 1 pick + second rounders as the season goes on. Either trade sounds fine to me and I'd personally do either now for both picks. The overwhelming likelihood is that neither player picked with the 2027 or 2029 FRPs will add more championship equity to those future Laker teams than trading them now would for this Laker team. These guys (minus Russ) are responding to Ham and defending well. They're running some pretty good offense and generating some decent looks, they just can't make any of them. With either the Indy trade or the Charlotte trade, I honestly think we can be a 50ish win team. Its hard to overestimate how much of a drag Russ and his 8% three point shooting for $47 million is on this team right now.

And even if we ultimately don't contend, there's value in being competitive in these last few years of LeBron's career. Right now we're a joke, openly mocked by most of the industry. The vibes around an organization matter and ours are awful.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#564 » by wco81 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:02 pm

They probably concluded that bubble roster wasn’t good enough.

Better than current roster but still not enough
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#565 » by TylersLakers » Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:17 pm

Slava wrote:We could have hung onto the 2019-20 title winning team, making some changes at the fringes with exceptions and minimum level deals and still been completely fine and better than the mess we are in today.

LeBron - still at a high level.
Davis - He is what he is, good when healthy.
Kuzma - Entering his prime years after having made great strides as a wing defender.
Caruso - DPOY candidate who's only grown in stature since then.
KCP - Solid, no nonsense 3&D wing.
McGee - Still a solid starting quality center.
THT - Didn't develop as expected but retained some value until the new contract before being flipped for a quality rotation piece in Beverley.
Markieff Morris - Minimum level contributor.

Danny Green - Past his days but could have been flipped for some value.
Rajon Rondo - Semi-retired.
Avery Bradley - Semi-retired.
Dwight Howard - Semi-retired.
Quinn Cook, Kostas, JR, Waiters, Daniels etc - Out of the league.


It's hilarious if we just left the team the same, we'd have more NBA players on our team. That is quite damning. The fact that Pelinka got an extension is absolutely hilarious.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's amazing how far nepotism and being Kobe Bryant's friend can get you in this organization.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#566 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:38 pm

wco81 wrote:They probably concluded that bubble roster wasn’t good enough.

Better than current roster but still not enough


we come to conclusions on players often and think we have an eye for talent... we suck in scouting... we suck even more in keeping players to grow in their potential
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#567 » by loveshaq786 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:41 pm

TylersLakers wrote:
Slava wrote:We could have hung onto the 2019-20 title winning team, making some changes at the fringes with exceptions and minimum level deals and still been completely fine and better than the mess we are in today.

LeBron - still at a high level.
Davis - He is what he is, good when healthy.
Kuzma - Entering his prime years after having made great strides as a wing defender.
Caruso - DPOY candidate who's only grown in stature since then.
KCP - Solid, no nonsense 3&D wing.
McGee - Still a solid starting quality center.
THT - Didn't develop as expected but retained some value until the new contract before being flipped for a quality rotation piece in Beverley.
Markieff Morris - Minimum level contributor.

Danny Green - Past his days but could have been flipped for some value.
Rajon Rondo - Semi-retired.
Avery Bradley - Semi-retired.
Dwight Howard - Semi-retired.
Quinn Cook, Kostas, JR, Waiters, Daniels etc - Out of the league.


It's hilarious if we just left the team the same, we'd have more NBA players on our team. That is quite damning. The fact that Pelinka got an extension is absolutely hilarious.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's amazing how far nepotism and being Kobe Bryant's friend can get you in this organization.


I agree he shouldn't have gotten that extension
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#568 » by LAKESHOW » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:58 am

Slava wrote:We could have hung onto the 2019-20 title winning team, making some changes at the fringes with exceptions and minimum level deals and still been completely fine and better than the mess we are in today.

LeBron - still at a high level.
Davis - He is what he is, good when healthy.
Kuzma - Entering his prime years after having made great strides as a wing defender.
Caruso - DPOY candidate who's only grown in stature since then.
KCP - Solid, no nonsense 3&D wing.
McGee - Still a solid starting quality center.
THT - Didn't develop as expected but retained some value until the new contract before being flipped for a quality rotation piece in Beverley.
Markieff Morris - Minimum level contributor.

Danny Green - Past his days but could have been flipped for some value.
Rajon Rondo - Semi-retired.
Avery Bradley - Semi-retired.
Dwight Howard - Semi-retired.
Quinn Cook, Kostas, JR, Waiters, Daniels etc - Out of the league.

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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#569 » by Danny Darko » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:49 pm

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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#570 » by Eric Bieniemy » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:27 pm

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The issue is the protections, so they're not sharing enough information. With an unprotected pick 5-7 years away, you could be giving away a top three pick. Is that worth it?

If you knew you weren't going to be really bad in seven years, you do the deal, but the Lakers' best player is 38 years old and their second best player is fragile and can't lead a team out of a brown paper bag.

I was against the Anthony Davis trade and I'm against giving up ANY unprotected pick to offload Westbrook. Worse case scenario is that you send Westbrook home. That alone makes the team better. Trading for Westbrook was absolutely asinine. Trading him away for questionable role-players with one or two unprotected picks will be the deathnail to this once proud organization.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#571 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:31 pm

I would 100% take protection out for KD for 2 of 3 picks if they take Westbrook
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#572 » by loveshaq786 » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:07 pm

would you all be open to trading AD??

I personally would... JV, CJ McCollum, and tm3

j brown, Marcus smart and horford

vucevic and derozan

KD

Draymond and poole

etc.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#573 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:42 am

loveshaq786 wrote:would you all be open to trading AD??

I personally would... JV, CJ McCollum, and tm3

j brown, Marcus smart and horford

vucevic and derozan

KD

Draymond and poole

etc.


I'd trade AD I mean street cloths In a heart beat, why - what's going to happen in after Bron leaves? He is not the guy you want after Bron I'm not sure about the above trade, but would be open to trading AD :)

Along with that If I were trading AD I'd want some pic or 2 and a young or 2 young players in return - either 2 pics and a young player OR 1 pic and 2 young decent players don't have to be allstar because doubt AD could net us an allstar - - - Edit: I know his a great player etc, but when always OR almost always injured his value will go down and If/when teams realize that Lakers trading him, there won't be much IF any leverage come Lakers way :(


AD though isn't going to be traded as long as Bron is on the team - which I can't wait for Retirement or until he is off the team in general and hope he takes Klutch sports with him
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#574 » by wco81 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:36 am

Not sure AD would fetch that much in return.

Only game 4 of the season and you could see him struggling. His body isn't right and if it's not right at the start of the season, when is it ever going to be right?

He could take another 6 months off like he did since the end of last season and the start of this one and be immediately hurting again.

Kawhi may be in a similar situation, he barely played in the Clippers game -- they're load managing him a lot -- and now already has knee stiffness and is going to miss at least the next game in addition to the last game he missed.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#575 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:40 pm

We told Kawhi. Even sent magic to his house. Instead, We got the chip. And now he's on the downslide . The sun is setting on his career
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#576 » by loveshaq786 » Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:49 pm

supposedly the Lakers are closer trading Westbrook for Kyle Lowry and Duncan Robinson.

If we are going to take contracts on, isn't Terry rozier and Hayward a better option?????
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#577 » by Kilroy » Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:25 pm

At this point we should seriously be looking to trade AD for an unprotected first this season... Take back an ugly contract if we must...

Wenbanyama seems worth the risk, at this point and we seem to have very little to lose.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#578 » by Eric Bieniemy » Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:44 am

loveshaq786 wrote:supposedly the Lakers are closer trading Westbrook for Kyle Lowry and Duncan Robinson.

If we are going to take contracts on, isn't Terry rozier and Hayward a better option?????

I'm assuming Miami would take Westbrook without any picks. They might be the only reasonable team who looks at Westbrook and his expiring contract as net positives, without picks being attached, the only team who is not trying to rape the Lakers.
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#579 » by MAMBAEMD » Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:27 pm

If the season keeps going this way for the Nets and the Lakers, they may get desperate enough to talk Kyrie trade again.

I do not want Kyrie on the Lakers .
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Re: Lakers Trade IDEAS 

Post#580 » by tamaraw08 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:21 pm

lakerRD wrote:If the season keeps going this way for the Nets and the Lakers, they may get desperate enough to talk Kyrie trade again.

I do not want Kyrie on the Lakers .

Who do you want instead?

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