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Cole Anthony suffers Oblique Muscle Injury, timetable TBD

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Re: Cole Anthony suffers Oblique Muscle Injury, timetable TBD 

Post#41 » by Knightro » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:10 pm

RookieStar wrote:This all sounds like the perfect scenario for a RW trade...lol


I would actually take Westbrook if the Lakers were willing to come off two unprotected 1sts in 2027 and 2029. Those are gonna be nice assets to have for future trades.

But if the Lakers are willing to part with two firsts, they'll be able to find a better package than a Fultz/Ross/Harris/Bamba pu pu platter.
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Post#42 » by CZ Eddie » Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:10 pm

What grade sprained ankle did Suggs have?
Would have expected a week for a regular sprain.

What's the deal with RJ not getting much playing time lately?

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Post#43 » by Audi » Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:10 pm

I get the Wemby appeal just in terms of skill and size at his age but can someone talk me up on Scoot? The three point shooting is abysmal and knowing we need spacing so badly is hurting his appeal in my eyes..
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Re: Cole Anthony suffers Oblique Muscle Injury, timetable TBD 

Post#44 » by thelead » Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:26 pm

Audi wrote:I get the Wemby appeal just in terms of skill and size at his age but can someone talk me up on Scoot? The three point shooting is abysmal and knowing we need spacing so badly is hurting his appeal in my eyes..

He was putting up 14ppg against grown men at the age of 17 on 44/17/78 splits in 24mpg. The FT percentage is good enough to think he’ll improve from deep and we still have all of this g-league season to see if he has improved.
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Post#45 » by Knightro » Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:55 pm

Audi wrote:I get the Wemby appeal just in terms of skill and size at his age but can someone talk me up on Scoot? The three point shooting is abysmal and knowing we need spacing so badly is hurting his appeal in my eyes..


Scoot's in the pre ACL tear Derrick Rose/Ja Morant mold.

Powerfully athletic. Can get to rim whenever he wants and can finish. Not afraid of contact and will make free throws. A midrange game that's already developing quickly at just 17 and now 18 years old.

It's not likely he'll be a *great* 3PT shooter right away, but his shot certainly doesn't look broken and he doesn't seem afraid to shoot.

A guy like Fultz has a nice midrange and can finish, but he's never going to be an efficient scorer because he doesn't take threes and doesn't get to the line.

Scoot should do everything Fultz does + draw fouls + attempt threes

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Post#46 » by IllMagic04 » Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:56 pm

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0-5 is a clear sign we are tanking. I thought maybe we weren't after the Detroit game, but it's pretty clear that Mose has been given the tank commander controls again.

I get it that Victor is a once in a lifetime prospect, but Paolo is breaking rookie records basically every game - there's a good chance we already have the next superstar on our roster and maybe should be building around it instead of replacing him as the leader with a new rookie.

Maybe we'll get the #1 pick and trade it away for 2 all star guards?


I don't get how you can believe we are tanking unless you think these are fake injuries. When you have this many guys who if heathy would be getting minutes all out at the same time, then you're going to lose. The fact we have even been competitive is honestly pretty amazing


Playing Kevon Harris over Hampton and not having a PG on the court for an entire quarter tells me that Mose has been told to tank it. I don't think the injuries are fake but JI has apparently been cleared to play and he can't take Chuma's minutes? C'mon. I've been a huge critic of JI but he's gotta be better than Chuma out there - right?


Ok but RJ isn;t good either. Do you really think Rj Hampton is the difference in wins and losses? We go quarters with no PG because we don't have one. What did you want Cole to play 48 minutes? Cole isn't even a true point guard but he's all we had. Now we don't even have him. As for JI honestly, I have no idea what's up with that. I don't think it has anything to do with tanking though. We need to see him on the floor. JI is not a superstar so his presence wouldnt stop us from losing. There still must be something that's not right with him.
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Post#47 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:23 pm

BTW I'm guessing he got injured on that play he got knocked down and didn't call a foul....and he was clearly hammered....

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Post#48 » by Def Swami » Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:37 pm

I think this is the 3rd year in a row where our first four guards are all hurt.
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Post#49 » by Bensational » Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:46 pm

Audi wrote:I get the Wemby appeal just in terms of skill and size at his age but can someone talk me up on Scoot? The three point shooting is abysmal and knowing we need spacing so badly is hurting his appeal in my eyes..


Check the highlights of him playing against Wemby this year. Scoot was hot from 3 and scoring nicely in the midrange, but he was also playmaking and facilitating like a beast.

He’s built like a running back so in some ways he’s like a PG version of PB, probably with a more natural instinct for running point.
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Post#50 » by KillMonger » Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:38 am

Can we pick up IT? Lol

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Post#51 » by pepe1991 » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:23 am

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Audi wrote:I get the Wemby appeal just in terms of skill and size at his age but can someone talk me up on Scoot? The three point shooting is abysmal and knowing we need spacing so badly is hurting his appeal in my eyes..


Check the highlights of him playing against Wemby this year. Scoot was hot from 3 and scoring nicely in the midrange, but he was also playmaking and facilitating like a beast.

He’s built like a running back so in some ways he’s like a PG version of PB, probably with a more natural instinct for running point.



Those are exibition games and served no purpose but hype.

Victor himself is very,very,very talented, but he is not what he looked like in that first game. He won't be shooting off the dribble 3s on any serious basketball team. Look at his games in Euroleague and you will figure how green he actually still is.

Scoot shot 17% for 3 in G league and that was NOT coincidence. Look at Jalen Green and KUminga, they still look very similar how they looked in G league. One is onedimensional chucker, other lacks basketball insticts. Nothing really changed.

Scoot is pretty much execlly prospect that would be worst fit possible for current roster. Another ball dominant player who can't do much without ball.
People compare him to Derrick Rose, because of his speed & agility but Rose peaked at age 22, in different basketball era where 3 ball wasn't really THAT important.
Westbrook's impact on winning was never actually that big. Portion of his playoff sucess happend despite of him, not because of him.

Memphis to this date still wins games on defense and have identical win rate with or without Morant.

That doesn't mean those players aren't useful in specific situations or that Memphis isn't better team with Morant, but it's pretty obvious that arhytype of 6'2 uber athlete who can't shoot isn't very good recipy for playoff sucess.

To me it always comes down to notion that i would prefer OKC's SGA or Pacers Haliburton over just about 95% of draft prospects from 2021, 2022 and 2023.
Because those guys actually make people around them better and know their roles. Unlike majority of prospect you get nowdays. Who spend whole rookie contract , if not more, trying to find their nba roles. And if they pan out, it almost always happends on other team, not team who drafted them ( Lauri, Wiggins,Lonzo Ball, Monk, Kennard, Carter Jr, , Gordon, Randle , Lavine...).
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Post#52 » by drsd » Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:01 am

basketballRob wrote:It's not like we were going to win the next few games anyway.

Some still don't realize we're tanking hard.

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The first ten games were a bit of a stretch looking for wins. But I still would like to see a 2-8 record in that. Meaning now a "need" for a 2-3 run. Frankly, lowing expectations, I would like to see a single win over the next five games.
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Re: Cole Anthony suffers Oblique Muscle Injury, timetable TBD 

Post#53 » by drsd » Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:03 am

pepe1991 wrote:Good thing we kept Harris over Cannady... than even traded him from G league team lol

Anyway, complete trainwrack of a season continues

Anyhow, speedy recovery Cole . You might not be most talented player but you have lot of heart.


Statistically this is the most offensively inept team Orlando has put out. And I cannot see how a G-leaguer over an injured player helps in the ppg department.

The "good" news: the Lakers is an even worse offensive team. Followed by the Clippers. Something in the Sunny air I guess.


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Post#54 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:33 am

BlueBalls wrote:So we’re 100% back on board with the tank now, I suppose.

No! 5 games into the season, even teams that made sure to have a bad season are doing better than us. We don’t need our players to feel defeated 5 games in, that’s ridiculous. Our team does not know how to close out games, that’s why we are 0-5, not because we are deliberately tanking.
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Post#55 » by Magic_Kingdom » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:54 pm

I can't figure out Hampton not playing with all the top guards out. It seems like he's in Mosley's doghouse for some reason. He's not worse than Kevon Harris and the team is desperate.

You can't sign guys with injury histories like Fultz and Gary Harris and expect it to be different here. Or draft guys like Suggs, who play basketball like it's football, and expect them to stay healthy for more than half a season. If the same thing keeps happening to this team year after year, it's not just dumb luck.
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Post#56 » by Max Power » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:55 pm

So I’m pretty sure the tank is so we can acquire a freaking point guard! Get well soon Cole, I appreciate him a lot more these days.
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Post#57 » by penny_nz » Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:17 pm

This is just unbelievable the luck we have with injuries... I mean we're giving Franz and Paolo a baptism of fire out there with no guard help this season and they're doing very well, but DAMN this is less than ideal

Not to mention, watching players like Harris get heavy minutes isn't great for the enjoyment factor...
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Post#58 » by tooler » Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:24 pm

penny_nz wrote:I mean we're giving Franz and Paolo a baptism of fire out there with no guard help this season and they're doing very well, but DAMN this is less than ideal

One of the few benefits. Like last season, we never would've known about Franz's month of December if we still had Cole and Suggs chucking shots. It's too bad he's not able to magically become a full-time point guard in 5 games, but everyone has their limits!

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