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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#221 » by Dnt hate » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:12 pm

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FireMorey wrote:Anyone know what's up with Embiid? What is "right knee recovery" 6 games into the season?


This time it's different though, he has been putting dat effort getting into shape and taking care of his body...

Did Embiid bang your mom? Holy ****
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Post#222 » by M2J » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:22 pm

Not to toot my own horn, But somebody's got to do it.

Been saying start Melton since draft night trade. Been saying bring Tucker off the bench and play a lot of center minutes... You don't need Reed, he sucks except when someone's injured. Been saying Sixers fans don't fight for Reed, fight for Thybulle to play or hell to start. But just like everybody was telling me during the offseason, they didn't bring Tucker here not to start. Tucker probably didn't come here thinking he wouldn't start. You have to give it a shot in order to honor agreements. Not working, he can have a big roll off of the bench.... And solidify the 4 and 5 positions along with the two others. Overall he has been good this year.... It's just not a fit in the starting lineup.

I can only hope that Rivers has not been playing Thybulle because of the pressure from Morey and Harden to play their guys. Their new two-way guys. I hope this game changes that for good. Matisse, Melton, and Maxey provide you with your athleticism, with Tobi being decently athletic only when he's your 4. Playing Joel, Harden, Tucker, Tobi and Maxey (who isn't a defender) is uber problematic defensively. That lineup could possibly work versus
certain matchups only in the playoffs. That line up could work versus the bucks maybe.
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#223 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:02 pm

Definitely going to find a way to use “not to toot my own horn but somebody’s gotta do it” in a work meeting.
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#224 » by mjkvol » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:16 pm

Dnt hate wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Anyone know what's up with Embiid? What is "right knee recovery" 6 games into the season?


This time it's different though, he has been putting dat effort getting into shape and taking care of his body...

Did Embiid bang your mom? Holy ****


Check his posts from a couple weeks ago and you'll be questioning whether Embiid is banging his wife.
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#225 » by Dnt hate » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:34 pm

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Dnt hate wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
This time it's different though, he has been putting dat effort getting into shape and taking care of his body...

Did Embiid bang your mom? Holy ****


Check his posts from a couple weeks ago and you'll be questioning whether Embiid is banging his wife.

He can't be married lol
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#226 » by eyeatoma » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:43 pm

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DCasey91 wrote:It’s easy make Embiid the third option and go all in on defence which he really should be if you think about it.

He needs the most adjustment because you cannot go through a heavy iso big that floats (11 shots outside 11 feet? Stupid at its finest) that’s not a great shooter and frankly a sh*t passer to go along with bad awareness when swarmed.

Doc mentioned before the season he wants to give Embiid even more shots... I couldn’t believe it. Max 20 shots that’s it that’s all you get if your not hot tough sh*t.
You don't make the leagues former scoring leader with insane efficiency the #3.

It should be Embiid
Then Maxey
Then Harden

Harden is still good, but he has off games far more often. Using the threat of his shot to get his teammates shots isn what he should do.

I do think Tucker has been a flop. Melton can help alot, so can Thybulle.

Still think when Jo comes we won't be great, not negate because of him but because of Doc's stubbornness with rotations and preferring certain players.

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No it shouldn’t, Embiid’s offence is massively overrated it’s nothing like Dirk, KD, and it’s far away from Lebron/Magic/Jokic. And he’s not insanely efficient, he has a saturated effect imo because he can’t got the full distance per game. Diminishing returns.

How many top 5 offensive seasons has he led? How has his playoff numbers compare? It’s chalk and cheese to me.

Really in the crunch where’s the incredible score creation? Answer there is none. Time and time again we’ve seen it but refuse to accept the obvious, he’s in iso float heavy big that’s not a great shooter and a way worse passer. That’s impossible to build around if you want to win. defence though different story but that’s totally up to him.

If the Sixers want to go all in one Embiid hypercentrism you’ll die on that hill. Said it years ago I don’t buy it not one bit.

Now if Embiid turned into an ATG defender then our championship contention will be legitimate.

Everything else 100% agree with.



He was one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA last year because of his FT creation. Same thing with the previous year when his midrange was insane. He was also the most clutch player in the league during the regular season last year based on clutch points, and in the playoffs he hit that last second shot against the Raptors. What are you talking about? The bigger issue is even though Harden is a great passing point guard, he still dribbles the air out of the ball and at times doesn't take shots when it's passed to him on the perimeter. I dont' think it's a huge issue. Biggest issues was, and will always be Doc.

Harden and Embiid were the best PNR duo last year. Why did htey go away from that? Maybe Embiid, but I suspect Doc has somethign to do with it.

The plan you have should take place when he''s 31-34, not when he's in the middle of his prime at 29.
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#227 » by Bum Adebayo » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:52 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:You don't make the leagues former scoring leader with insane efficiency the #3.

It should be Embiid
Then Maxey
Then Harden

Harden is still good, but he has off games far more often. Using the threat of his shot to get his teammates shots isn what he should do.

I do think Tucker has been a flop. Melton can help alot, so can Thybulle.

Still think when Jo comes we won't be great, not negate because of him but because of Doc's stubbornness with rotations and preferring certain players.

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No it shouldn’t, Embiid’s offence is massively overrated it’s nothing like Dirk, KD, and it’s far away from Lebron/Magic/Jokic. And he’s not insanely efficient, he has a saturated effect imo because he can’t got the full distance per game. Diminishing returns.

How many top 5 offensive seasons has he led? How has his playoff numbers compare? It’s chalk and cheese to me.

Really in the crunch where’s the incredible score creation? Answer there is none. Time and time again we’ve seen it but refuse to accept the obvious, he’s in iso float heavy big that’s not a great shooter and a way worse passer. That’s impossible to build around if you want to win. defence though different story but that’s totally up to him.

If the Sixers want to go all in one Embiid hypercentrism you’ll die on that hill. Said it years ago I don’t buy it not one bit.

Now if Embiid turned into an ATG defender then our championship contention will be legitimate.

Everything else 100% agree with.



He was one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA last year because of his FT creation.


This, people don't get it, what makes Embiid truly special on offense is his ability to draw fouls at an unprecedented rate, and this is also really effective in playoffs where refs don't let other players maul Embiid in the post without consequences.
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#228 » by eyeatoma » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:00 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
No it shouldn’t, Embiid’s offence is massively overrated it’s nothing like Dirk, KD, and it’s far away from Lebron/Magic/Jokic. And he’s not insanely efficient, he has a saturated effect imo because he can’t got the full distance per game. Diminishing returns.

How many top 5 offensive seasons has he led? How has his playoff numbers compare? It’s chalk and cheese to me.

Really in the crunch where’s the incredible score creation? Answer there is none. Time and time again we’ve seen it but refuse to accept the obvious, he’s in iso float heavy big that’s not a great shooter and a way worse passer. That’s impossible to build around if you want to win. defence though different story but that’s totally up to him.

If the Sixers want to go all in one Embiid hypercentrism you’ll die on that hill. Said it years ago I don’t buy it not one bit.

Now if Embiid turned into an ATG defender then our championship contention will be legitimate.

Everything else 100% agree with.



He was one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA last year because of his FT creation.


This, people don't get it, what makes Embiid truly special on offense is his ability to draw fouls at an unprecedented rate, and this is also really effective in playoffs where refs don't let other players maul Embiid in the post without consequences.



Dude just give it up.

I get the sarcasm. So you say they maul him in the playoffs. Was he injured last season by a flying elbow and torn ligaments? When he's been healthy he's been fine, and he couldn't be stopped. His FT rate actually doesn't have a huge drop off compared to the regular season either. It's still quite high. The whole reason he takes iso guard shots is because he gets doubled in the post on every possession.
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Post#229 » by DCasey91 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:19 pm

Embiid age 28 playoff numbers:

44 games

Av: 24/11/3 on 16.5 FGA
FG%: 47
3P%: sub 30 on 158 attempts
Turnovers: 158!

Sub 50% FG for a true big is bad, 158 turnovers for 124 assists is even worse. Embiid is closer to Ewing except Ewing backed up his great defence for years on end.

Sorry not buying this “amazing” offence.
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Post#230 » by Murray_17 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:31 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Embiid age 28 playoff numbers:

44 games

Av: 24/11/3 on 16.5 FGA
FG%: 47
3P%: sub 30 on 158 attempts
Turnovers: 158!

Sub 50% FG for a true big is bad, 158 turnovers for 124 assists is even worse. Embiid is closer to Ewing except Ewing backed up his great defence for years on end.

Sorry not buying this “amazing” offence.



You forgot he has a 58.7 TS, below his regular season numbers but for reference Giannis has a 57.7 TS for the Playoffs and Durant has a 59.9. The average of Joel drops because he had a 51.1 in his first playoff year too

Every top player efficiency drops in the playoffs
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Post#231 » by DCasey91 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:06 am

Yes but my point still stands you don’t build around your whole offence on this type of player it doesn’t lead anywhere lol
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Re: Game 6: Raptors - Sixers... doc rivers watch 

Post#232 » by mjkvol » Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:16 am

Dnt hate wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Dnt hate wrote:Did Embiid bang your mom? Holy ****


Check his posts from a couple weeks ago and you'll be questioning whether Embiid is banging his wife.

He can't be married lol


I was thinking that, but figured my post was already rude enough.
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