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Post#81 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:20 am

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Tracymcgoaty wrote:Not gonna lie...I'd pick him up if i was the Lakers. He's actually pretty good from what i've seen.

But damn Primo chill.


I mean, they already glorify Kobe at every opportunity...this must seem like small potatoes to them.


Im sorry dude. The right course of action would be to shun him from society and cast him in with the rapists and murderers. Dude is in there with the worst of them. Stalin is small potatoes to Primo. Mao wishes he was on this level.

Give me a **** break. Dude should be punished for what he did but im not going to act as if he's some monster.
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Post#82 » by UcanUwill » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:24 am

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UcanUwill wrote:Is that a waivable offense though?


Are you seriously asking if sexual assault is a waivable offense? :o


flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.
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Post#83 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:26 am

Just why what weirdo . You can get girl . Your in the nba . …. Anyways spurs are well run so . No surprise they took care of it quite quickly
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Post#84 » by UcanUwill » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:35 am

Ballerhogger wrote:Just why what weirdo . You can get girl . Your in the nba . …. Anyways spurs are well run so . No surprise they took care of it quite quickly


This is probably not even about sex in itself, but some people find satisfaction doing weird things like that, must be a complex of some sort.
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UcanUwill wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Is that a waivable offense though?


Are you seriously asking if sexual assault is a waivable offense? :o


flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.


3 things here, from least important to most important:

1) Primo was not exactly a scrub. He was a lottery pick that the Spurs were marketing as an integral piece of their future core. He was a featured player.

2) Based on the reports, he did it to both strangers and to Spurs employees.

But the one thing that really matters is this:

3) What Primo reportedly did is absolutely horrible. It is sexual assault, plain and simple. Yes, he didn't forcibly penetrate the women he exposed himself to (based on the reports, at least) but at the time of the crime his victims had no way of knowing that they wouldn't get raped. It is highly likely that they thought that they were about to get raped and that they went through that trauma. The trauma that Primo's actions caused to his victims is horrific and it's not something that anyone should go through.
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Re: Report: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women 

Post#87 » by G R E Y » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:53 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Is that a waivable offense though?


Are you seriously asking if sexual assault is a waivable offense? :o


flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.

This is a fireable offense and a crime. Spurs invested a lot into Primo. Keep in mind we don't get lotto picks often. This is not basketball related even though I get that some don't find him as some great talent and that those in power get away with things they shouldn't.

This situation does have 'actual victims' even if comparisons to other types of crimes like spousal abuse you cited are of a physical contact nature.

Ballerhogger wrote:Just why what weirdo . You can get girl . Your in the nba . …. Anyways spurs are well run so . No surprise they took care of it quite quickly

He has had a steady GF. They've been (were?) together since before he got drafted. Getting laid isn't the issue. Deviant behaviour is.
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Post#88 » by bluemj32 » Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:58 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Is that a waivable offense though?


Are you seriously asking if sexual assault is a waivable offense? :o


flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.
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Post#89 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:02 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:Not gonna lie...I'd pick him up if i was the Lakers. He's actually pretty good from what i've seen.

But damn Primo chill.


Some Lakers fans also want Miles Bridges

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Post#90 » by UcanUwill » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:03 am

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UcanUwill wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
Are you seriously asking if sexual assault is a waivable offense? :o


flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.

This is a fireable offense and a crime. Spurs invested a lot into Primo. Keep in mind we don't get lotto picks often. This is not basketball related even though I get that some don't find him as some great talent and that those in power get away with things they shouldn't.

This situation does have 'actual victims' even if comparisons to other types of crimes like spousal abuse you cited are of a physical contact nature.

Ballerhogger wrote:Just why what weirdo . You can get girl . Your in the nba . …. Anyways spurs are well run so . No surprise they took care of it quite quickly

He has had a steady GF. They've been (were?) together since before he got drafted. Getting laid isn't the issue. Deviant behaviour is.


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UcanUwill wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
Are you seriously asking if sexual assault is a waivable offense? :o


flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.


3 things here, from least important to most important:

1) Primo was not exactly a scrub. He was a lottery pick that the Spurs were marketing as an integral piece of their future core. He was a featured player.

2) Based on the reports, he did it to both strangers and to Spurs employees.

But the one thing that really matters is this:

3) What Primo reportedly did is absolutely horrible. It is sexual assault, plain and simple. Yes, he didn't forcibly penetrate the women he exposed himself to (based on the reports, at least) but at the time of the crime his victims had no way of knowing that they wouldn't get raped. It is highly likely that they thought that they were about to get raped and that they went through that trauma. The trauma that Primo's actions caused to his victims is horrific and it's not something that anyone should go through.


Ok, I am not disagreeing with you, thanks for correcting me. I have tons psyhological traumas from just words said to me as a kid, so I understand that people are victims here and could have been traumatized, I didn't really meant to say that they aren't. But my point stands that we dont have consistency in these things and it is hypocritical in my opinion, Joshua is not waived if he was Tyrese Haliburton, we can say he is some kind of super prospect, but he really isnt. I am not saying he shouldn't have been waived, but I am saying, from league history, this is quite severe consequence.
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Post#91 » by Nuntius » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:07 am

UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.

This is a fireable offense and a crime. Spurs invested a lot into Primo. Keep in mind we don't get lotto picks often. This is not basketball related even though I get that some don't find him as some great talent and that those in power get away with things they shouldn't.

This situation does have 'actual victims' even if comparisons to other types of crimes like spousal abuse you cited are of a physical contact nature.

Ballerhogger wrote:Just why what weirdo . You can get girl . Your in the nba . …. Anyways spurs are well run so . No surprise they took care of it quite quickly

He has had a steady GF. They've been (were?) together since before he got drafted. Getting laid isn't the issue. Deviant behaviour is.


Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.


3 things here, from least important to most important:

1) Primo was not exactly a scrub. He was a lottery pick that the Spurs were marketing as an integral piece of their future core. He was a featured player.

2) Based on the reports, he did it to both strangers and to Spurs employees.

But the one thing that really matters is this:

3) What Primo reportedly did is absolutely horrible. It is sexual assault, plain and simple. Yes, he didn't forcibly penetrate the women he exposed himself to (based on the reports, at least) but at the time of the crime his victims had no way of knowing that they wouldn't get raped. It is highly likely that they thought that they were about to get raped and that they went through that trauma. The trauma that Primo's actions caused to his victims is horrific and it's not something that anyone should go through.


Ok, I am not disagreeing with you, thanks for correcting me. I have tons psyhological traumas from just words said to me as a kid, so I understand that people are victims here and could have been traumatized, I didn't really meant to say that they aren't. But my point stands that we dont have consistency in these things and it is hypocritical in my opinion, Joshua is not waived if he was Tyrese Haliburton, we can say he is some kind of super prospect, but he really isnt. I am not saying he shouldn't have been waived, but I am saying, from league history, this is quite severe consequence.


It's the consequence that his actions merited. If Haliburton was caught sexually assaulting people then I would fully support waiving him. I do agree that a double standard does exist in the league but when it comes to crimes of this magnitude it absolutely shouldn't exist. Sexual assaults shouldn't be tolerated.
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Post#92 » by G R E Y » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:17 am

UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.

This is a fireable offense and a crime. Spurs invested a lot into Primo. Keep in mind we don't get lotto picks often. This is not basketball related even though I get that some don't find him as some great talent and that those in power get away with things they shouldn't.

This situation does have 'actual victims' even if comparisons to other types of crimes like spousal abuse you cited are of a physical contact nature.

Ballerhogger wrote:Just why what weirdo . You can get girl . Your in the nba . …. Anyways spurs are well run so . No surprise they took care of it quite quickly

He has had a steady GF. They've been (were?) together since before he got drafted. Getting laid isn't the issue. Deviant behaviour is.


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UcanUwill wrote:
flashing your junk is obviously stupid and terrible, but I dont see it as that horrible. I mean if he did it at work, I get it, my initial thought was that he was doing it to strangers? But we all know its waivable offense because hes a scrub, we have players in the league who been beating their wifes, thats a crime that has actual victims.


3 things here, from least important to most important:

1) Primo was not exactly a scrub. He was a lottery pick that the Spurs were marketing as an integral piece of their future core. He was a featured player.

2) Based on the reports, he did it to both strangers and to Spurs employees.

But the one thing that really matters is this:

3) What Primo reportedly did is absolutely horrible. It is sexual assault, plain and simple. Yes, he didn't forcibly penetrate the women he exposed himself to (based on the reports, at least) but at the time of the crime his victims had no way of knowing that they wouldn't get raped. It is highly likely that they thought that they were about to get raped and that they went through that trauma. The trauma that Primo's actions caused to his victims is horrific and it's not something that anyone should go through.


Ok, I am not disagreeing with you, thanks for correcting me. I have tons psyhological traumas from just words said to me as a kid, so I understand that people are victims here and could have been traumatized, I didn't really meant to say that they aren't. But my point stands that we dont have consistency in these things and it is hypocritical in my opinion, Joshua is not waived if he was Tyrese Haliburton, we can say he is some kind of super prospect, but he really isnt. I am not saying he shouldn't have been waived, but I am saying, from league history, this is quite severe consequence.

Well a couple of thoughts on this. We don't know that the Spurs would not have waived Primo had he been viewed as a bigger talent (at least in others' eyes), or had he established himself more already. It implies that the Spurs were more willing to let him go given what they know and weighed talent to behaviour.

Consider that even with what we know about a couple of Hornets players by comparison. Neither is really a Hali talent either. Neither got waived. Neither got their their merchandise quickly pulled from both the team and league online stores.

Regardless of what others think of Primo's talent, Spurs were comfortable trading Murray because they drafted Primo. The point is that the team thought Primo was a special talent and invested a lot into him, a lot of commitment and faith. A lot was resting on his develpment so this is a big hit for us.

Part of it is different teams will react differently to different offenses by their players.

But the other point is that we don't know what the Spurs uncovered. There are only two instances cited so far, one by word of mouth. Yet the ESPN article says multiple women.

The Spurs and the NBA know more than we do and have responded as they have so far, even when the team and the league did not do the same for other known offenses of other players.
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Post#94 » by UcanUwill » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:19 am

Nuntius wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:This is a fireable offense and a crime. Spurs invested a lot into Primo. Keep in mind we don't get lotto picks often. This is not basketball related even though I get that some don't find him as some great talent and that those in power get away with things they shouldn't.

This situation does have 'actual victims' even if comparisons to other types of crimes like spousal abuse you cited are of a physical contact nature.


He has had a steady GF. They've been (were?) together since before he got drafted. Getting laid isn't the issue. Deviant behaviour is.


Nuntius wrote:
3 things here, from least important to most important:

1) Primo was not exactly a scrub. He was a lottery pick that the Spurs were marketing as an integral piece of their future core. He was a featured player.

2) Based on the reports, he did it to both strangers and to Spurs employees.

But the one thing that really matters is this:

3) What Primo reportedly did is absolutely horrible. It is sexual assault, plain and simple. Yes, he didn't forcibly penetrate the women he exposed himself to (based on the reports, at least) but at the time of the crime his victims had no way of knowing that they wouldn't get raped. It is highly likely that they thought that they were about to get raped and that they went through that trauma. The trauma that Primo's actions caused to his victims is horrific and it's not something that anyone should go through.


Ok, I am not disagreeing with you, thanks for correcting me. I have tons psyhological traumas from just words said to me as a kid, so I understand that people are victims here and could have been traumatized, I didn't really meant to say that they aren't. But my point stands that we dont have consistency in these things and it is hypocritical in my opinion, Joshua is not waived if he was Tyrese Haliburton, we can say he is some kind of super prospect, but he really isnt. I am not saying he shouldn't have been waived, but I am saying, from league history, this is quite severe consequence.


It's the consequence that his actions merited. If Haliburton was caught sexually assaulting people then I would fully support waiving him. I do agree that a double standard does exist in the league but when it comes to crimes of this magnitude it absolutely shouldn't exist. Sexual assaults shouldn't be tolerated.


I agree, I think my first post was painted by leagues history. Of course we can't compare it regular jobs, I mean if this happened to any other company, its a no brainer fire, in the NBA, is still a bit surprising to me that this happened.

To me as fan, league is filled with talent, I really don't care if Miles Bridges plays again, and he was super highlight real, but dude is a flat out serious criminal. I fully support serious criminals being banned from a league, I dont really care if they are stars. What I was trying to say, is that NBA cares.

But I do admit, and maybe I am ignorant, but I find Joshua as lesser criminal here, if this report is correct, he is creep-criminal, and maybe I could forgive creeps if they mature and get treated. I wouldn't be upset if Joshua is back in the league, if Miles Bridges doesnt get a serious ban, I would be pissed of honestly.
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Post#95 » by CptCrunch » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:24 am

G R E Y wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
G R E Y wrote:This is a fireable offense and a crime. Spurs invested a lot into Primo. Keep in mind we don't get lotto picks often. This is not basketball related even though I get that some don't find him as some great talent and that those in power get away with things they shouldn't.

This situation does have 'actual victims' even if comparisons to other types of crimes like spousal abuse you cited are of a physical contact nature.


He has had a steady GF. They've been (were?) together since before he got drafted. Getting laid isn't the issue. Deviant behaviour is.


Nuntius wrote:
3 things here, from least important to most important:

1) Primo was not exactly a scrub. He was a lottery pick that the Spurs were marketing as an integral piece of their future core. He was a featured player.

2) Based on the reports, he did it to both strangers and to Spurs employees.

But the one thing that really matters is this:

3) What Primo reportedly did is absolutely horrible. It is sexual assault, plain and simple. Yes, he didn't forcibly penetrate the women he exposed himself to (based on the reports, at least) but at the time of the crime his victims had no way of knowing that they wouldn't get raped. It is highly likely that they thought that they were about to get raped and that they went through that trauma. The trauma that Primo's actions caused to his victims is horrific and it's not something that anyone should go through.


Ok, I am not disagreeing with you, thanks for correcting me. I have tons psyhological traumas from just words said to me as a kid, so I understand that people are victims here and could have been traumatized, I didn't really meant to say that they aren't. But my point stands that we dont have consistency in these things and it is hypocritical in my opinion, Joshua is not waived if he was Tyrese Haliburton, we can say he is some kind of super prospect, but he really isnt. I am not saying he shouldn't have been waived, but I am saying, from league history, this is quite severe consequence.

Well a couple of thoughts on this. We don't know that the Spurs would not have waived Primo had he been viewed as a bigger talent (at least in others' eyes), or had he established himself more already. It implies that the Spurs were more willing to let him go given what they know and weighed talent to behaviour.

Consider that even with what we know about a couple of Hornets players by comparison. Neither is really a Hali talent either. Neither got waived. Neither got their their merchandise quickly pulled from both the team and league online stores.

Regardless of what others think of Primo's talent, Spurs were comfortable trading Murray because they drafted Primo. The point is that the team thought Primo was a special talent and invested a lot into him, a lot of commitment and faith. A lot was resting on his develpment so this is a big hit for us.

Part of it is different teams will react differently to different offenses by their players.

But the other point is that we don't know what the Spurs uncovered. There are only two instances cited so far, one by word of mouth. Yet the ESPN article says multiple women.

The Spurs and the NBA know more than we do and have responded as they have so far, even when the team and the league did not do the same for other known offenses of other players.


Big issue is that Primo exposed him to a Spurs staff. This brings in legal issues that the staffer can sue the Spurs organization over. Primo and that staff are/were both employees of the Spurs organization.

While sexual exposure is bad, sexual exposure towards any women outside of the Spurs organization is quite different from a HR perspective than any event that occurs within the organization.
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Post#96 » by Tracymcgoaty » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:24 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Tracymcgoaty wrote:Not gonna lie...I'd pick him up if i was the Lakers. He's actually pretty good from what i've seen.

But damn Primo chill.


Some Lakers fans also want Miles Bridges

Pathetic


I dont want Miles. Miles should get jail time. What primo did was wrong and he should face the consequences. Im not about to compare that to a dude beating the **** out of his wife.
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Post#97 » by G R E Y » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:40 am

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Ok, I am not disagreeing with you, thanks for correcting me. I have tons psyhological traumas from just words said to me as a kid, so I understand that people are victims here and could have been traumatized, I didn't really meant to say that they aren't. But my point stands that we dont have consistency in these things and it is hypocritical in my opinion, Joshua is not waived if he was Tyrese Haliburton, we can say he is some kind of super prospect, but he really isnt. I am not saying he shouldn't have been waived, but I am saying, from league history, this is quite severe consequence.

Well a couple of thoughts on this. We don't know that the Spurs would not have waived Primo had he been viewed as a bigger talent (at least in others' eyes), or had he established himself more already. It implies that the Spurs were more willing to let him go given what they know and weighed talent to behaviour.

Consider that even with what we know about a couple of Hornets players by comparison. Neither is really a Hali talent either. Neither got waived. Neither got their their merchandise quickly pulled from both the team and league online stores.

Regardless of what others think of Primo's talent, Spurs were comfortable trading Murray because they drafted Primo. The point is that the team thought Primo was a special talent and invested a lot into him, a lot of commitment and faith. A lot was resting on his develpment so this is a big hit for us.

Part of it is different teams will react differently to different offenses by their players.

But the other point is that we don't know what the Spurs uncovered. There are only two instances cited so far, one by word of mouth. Yet the ESPN article says multiple women.

The Spurs and the NBA know more than we do and have responded as they have so far, even when the team and the league did not do the same for other known offenses of other players.


Big issue is that Primo exposed him to a Spurs staff. This brings in legal issues that the staffer can sue the Spurs organization over. Primo and that staff are/were both employees of the Spurs organization.

While sexual exposure is bad, sexual exposure towards any women outside of the Spurs organization is quite different from a HR perspective than any event that occurs within the organization.

Hmm we're getting into intricacies we don't have enough details about.

If Spurs didn't know about it, as in she quit but got legal representation after hearing that she's not alone which makes it a stronger case beyond he said/she said then that's a different scenario than, say, Primo being warned previously, or female staffers being ignored, feeling the need to quit, etc.

I agree it adds extra layers since Primo did it to those inside as well as outside the organization. We just don't know the W5H of it all. But exposure either way is bad. That it's a pattern is worse. The fallout is just beginning.
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Re: Report: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women 

Post#98 » by cam24thomas » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:45 am

My cousin does it but only just above his waistband and only at the beach and because he's in puberty he said its normal, but Joshua Primo is probably too old to be in puberty plus he's not at the beach!
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Re: Report: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women 

Post#99 » by Bornstellar » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:45 am

It's pretty damn sad when your team is so bad you'd gladly take Primo on your roster. Says a lot about the fan base
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Re: Report: Joshua Primo allegedly exposed himself to women 

Post#100 » by KuruptedCav » Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:46 am

Forbes wrote:Spurs clearly play no games. Not even a suspension. Hopefully the kid is able to recover from this, immaturity at its best. I know mental health get thrown at everything to excuse things a little. Kid was probably being an immature idiot like most at that age. If its nothing more than this, I hope he gets better and is able to survive this and play ball. He has to hold this L, monetarily and socially.

You can’t play games. As much as I’d want to work through it with the kid, I also need my female employees, player wives, significant others, kids, to all feel comfortable and be safe.

I’m sorry if he was dealt a bad hand in life. It sucks, it is unfair, it doesn’t change the standard for acceptable behavior.

Wish him the best, pay him out what is owed and move forward. Hopefully he gets the help needed.


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