Utaz Jazz acquire Lauri Markkanen from Cleveland Cavaliers

[Jiipee84]

Injury concerns will always be there with VW but he's probably still worth the risk. And even if you don't get the #1 pick, Henderson is a good consolation prize, so we still need a high pick. Fact of the matter is that we don't have upper echelon talent and without it we're not going to get better results than what we have been getting with the previous incarnation of the Jazz. Yes, tanking sucks, but we need to bite the bullet or we're just going to stay in that 2nd round ceiling area for the next decade and this whole rebuild will have been for nothing and we might as well kept both Mitchell and Gobert if that's good enough for us.

Injury conserns aren't ever good thing.
But if Wembanyama hasn't got similar injury history what Michael Porter Jr had his draft year ( 2018 )
VW should be fine even if there is little risk / little risks.

Todays NBA bigs are totally different than 1990's NBA bigs and no-one in todays NBA isn't built like Shaq O'Neal was.
Players who even remind and look like Shaq are too slow todays NBA game.

What comes Lauri i can see Jazz keeping him some time especially if there isn't trade available for him.
But who even knows is Lauri ready to stay in Utah lets say 2-3 yrs.

Lauri's prime years are starting now so he has for sure his goals
so is there any fit which should satisfy both ( Jazz and Lauri ) in the horizon that's the question.

[Jiipee84]

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^^ Last weeks game vs Minnesota wasn't first time when Markkanen dunked on Gobert do you guys remember this one?

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[AingesBurner]

If Lauri continues his current play then VW might not matter guys… Jaylen Brown will be in Utah anyways.

[PaKii94]

If Lauri continues his current play then VW might not matter guys… Jaylen Brown will be in Utah anyways.

Brown would be such a good fit with this team. And Utah has the assets to get a star.

[AingesBurner]

If Lauri continues his current play then VW might not matter guys… Jaylen Brown will be in Utah anyways.

Brown would be such a good fit with this team. And Utah has the assets to get a star.

Exactly.

[Jiipee84]

If Lauri continues his current play then VW might not matter guys… Jaylen Brown will be in Utah anyways.

Brown would be such a good fit with this team. And Utah has the assets to get a star.

But the question is who Jazz should trade to get Brown?
Markkanen is boosting his trade value with these game perfromances but does Celtics need Lauri?

Then there's Westbrook trade rumor but is Westbrook a guy what Jazz needs?
Interesting times coming for sure so lets see what happens

[PaKii94]

If Lauri continues his current play then VW might not matter guys… Jaylen Brown will be in Utah anyways.

Brown would be such a good fit with this team. And Utah has the assets to get a star.

But the question is who Jazz should trade to get Brown?
Markkanen is boosting his trade value with these game perfromances but does Celtics need Lauri?

Then there's Westbrook trade rumor but is Westbrook a guy what Jazz needs?
Interesting times coming for sure so lets see what happens

Talking about building with the team we have not trading away Lauri

[Jiipee84]

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[Jiipee84]

Brown would be such a good fit with this team. And Utah has the assets to get a star.

But the question is who Jazz should trade to get Brown?
Markkanen is boosting his trade value with these game perfromances but does Celtics need Lauri?

Then there's Westbrook trade rumor but is Westbrook a guy what Jazz needs?
Interesting times coming for sure so lets see what happens

Talking about building with the team we have not trading away Lauri

True.
But even you remember that Lauri had in Bulls that febru Lauri streak
and how it ended and what happend AFTER THAT.

This how Lauri plays now is not a surprise he continues on that where he finished in Eurobasket
so it truly was about a damn time for Lauri to start play like rea star does and reach his potential.

Everyone also knows that Ainge doesn't hesitate to trade his stars for more picks.
But as i said earlier Jazz shouldn't trade anyone ( not even Lauri ) for just to make trade happen.
Evaluate and find out what you have already and what you need and then make the trades what you truly need.
That should be the plan but is it? we'll see that some point.

[Taikuri]

4 blocks too. He didn't do stuff like that before. It all comes from his high confidence level and not being injured for a while. I'm glad to see it. Part of that confidence came from the Eurobasket tournament.

[Crunch 99]

Responding to some older posts here before the season started:

Of course, Markkanen won't be the primary man in Jazz like he is in Team Finland, Sexton will take care of that ....With Sexton on the team as the main ball-handler of a team, nobody else in the team will see the ball much. It is what it is.

Hopefully Jazz will not give Sexton the keys, he is much more efficient when he isn't the one bringing up the ball (as was very clearly seen last autumn when Ricky Rubio simply didn't allow Sexton to get the ball unless he was about to score).

How well Utah Jazz can use Lauri? Is Lauri getting all those shots and scoring chances what he needs to be useful? Can Collin Sexton be that playmaker what Lauri needs ? What's Lauri's role in Utah Jazz ? Does Utah Jazz coaching staff see Lauri 1st scoring option like Finland did in Eurobasket ? All these are crucial and important questions for Lauri's 2022-2023 NBA season. And so long when there's no clear answers we cannot say for sure how Lauri's games goes and how well he starts his season in Utah. That's why we can't expect much yet.

Great start (in pre-season)! I hope Markkanen establishes himself as our leading scorer this season. He is fun to watch.

It's only eight games in, but we appear to be getting our answer: Markkanen looks like he is on way to establishing himself as the Jazz leading scorer. Swuul and Jiipee84's worries about Sexton not being much of an assist guy seem to be well founded (so far), but the Jazz are using Sexton in Clarkson's old role as a scorer off the bench. Meanwhile, Clarkson has responded to his new starting role and increased minutes by increasing his passing and assists rather than increasing his field goal attempts, so we have two willing passers for starting guards in Conley and Clarkson. I love the way Coach Hardy is using this group of players so far.

Markkanen is leading the Jazz in fga/game at 17, and now he is starting to knock down his threes in addition to his twos. With Markkanen's excellent start to this season, the other players trust in Markkanen should be growing game by game, so they will likely keep getting Markkanen the ball. Go Jazz!

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People were right - we should have picked the Knicks offer... if we wanted to tank that is. Lauri is single-handedly killing our tank... he's like the Javelin of our tank.

[AingesBurner]

People were right - we should have picked the Knicks offer... if we wanted to tank that is. Lauri is single-handedly killing our tank... he's like the Javelin of our tank.

Still early in the season and good chance the Minnesota T-Wolves underperform or the HOU/BKN/PHI is higher than expected.

[FranchisePlayer]

People were right - we should have picked the Knicks offer... if we wanted to tank that is. Lauri is single-handedly killing our tank... he's like the Javelin of our tank.

Tanking is for people wanting to spend time playing bridge with their grandma.

Getting to see your team wipe the floor with opponents with a true All-Star player in charge is for people wanting to enjoy life.

[FranchisePlayer]

4 blocks too. He didn't do stuff like that before. It all comes from his high confidence level and not being injured for a while. I'm glad to see it. Part of that confidence came from the Eurobasket tournament.

He was so badly used in Chicago, poorly coached with well below par coaching and medical staff to keep him fit. The organisation had zero clue how to develop him and what to do with him, other than lowball him with stupid extension offers.

The Bulls are a frigging joke. So glad Markkanen got out of that graveyard. Now the fan base can keep fooling themselves the next 10 year, why getting rid of Markkanen was such a good thing and keeping Lavine as their 1st option was even better.

I agree though, Lauri was a gd beast out there in the Euro. Had the Finns beat Spain he would've been MVP, to. So confidence, sure.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Injury concerns will always be there with VW but he's probably still worth the risk. And even if you don't get the #1 pick, Henderson is a good consolation prize, so we still need a high pick. Fact of the matter is that we don't have upper echelon talent and without it we're not going to get better results than what we have been getting with the previous incarnation of the Jazz. Yes, tanking sucks, but we need to bite the bullet or we're just going to stay in that 2nd round ceiling area for the next decade and this whole rebuild will have been for nothing and we might as well kept both Mitchell and Gobert if that's good enough for us.

Utah has enough picks to trade for 2 star-level players right now. They have the ability to build this team up, whether they tank or not, so I don't see how we can predict their ceiling. If this team is capable of sneaking into the playoffs as is, we are in an infinitely better position than trying to build from the middle without all those picks.

I'm not anti-tanking, and IMO Utah's biggest mistake in my lifetime was their failure to move Millsap and Jefferson at the right time because they wanted to sneak into an 8th seed just to get murdered by the Spurs. Having said that, they are absolutely in a position where they have options as to which direction they take. The percentages just aren't significant enough to demand they tank right out of the gate. I guarantee they are hesitant to do that because bottoming out like that can easily turn into a hole that could take 5-10 years to dig out of, if not longer. The league really did take away a lot of the incentive to tank when they lowered the percentages for the bottom teams.

[Taikuri]

4 blocks too. He didn't do stuff like that before. It all comes from his high confidence level and not being injured for a while. I'm glad to see it. Part of that confidence came from the Eurobasket tournament.

He was so badly used in Chicago, poorly coached with well below par coaching and medical staff to keep him fit. The organisation had zero clue how to develop him and what to do with him, other than lowball him with stupid extension offers.

The Bulls are a frigging joke. So glad Markkanen got out of that graveyard. Now the fan base can keep fooling themselves the next 10 year, why getting rid of Markkanen was such a good thing and keeping Lavine as their 1st option was even better.

I agree though, Lauri was a gd beast out there in the Euro. Had the Finns beat Spain he would've been MVP, to. So confidence, sure.

Yep, Lauri did get little bit too much hate around on the Bulls forum section when he was still a Bulls player. True about the MVP thing at Euro also.

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Lauri disappeared a bit down the stretch last night against the Mavs.

He's really good but not a #1 franchise player. More like a #2B type. Danny has enough ammo to eventually bring in an alpha. Sucks it couldn't be Don but it is what it is.