GT #10: Bullets @ Grizzlies 6 PM (NBCSW/980 AM)

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People can hate on Hachimura all they want...

Did anyone "hate on Hachimura," prime? ...why is that what you start with?

I'd say everyone here is pulling for the kid to establish himself in the league. Obviously, that would be good for the team! Plus, he's obviously a really terrific young man.

...the man can score efficiently.

He scored efficiently tonight for sure -- 15 points tonight on 12 FGAs & 1 FTA. That's very very good -- a .603 TS%.

He needs to keep that up, because so far, on the season, he's at 50% -- the lowest of his career. Both his 3 pt. % & his 2 pt. % are worse than they were in any of his previous 3 years.

Is that what it means to be a hater? -- to mention that fact? Would it be better if, ssshhhh, no one said anything about Rui's shooting so far.

OTOH, Rui is having his best year by far rebounding the ball -- he's grabbing 25% more boards per 40 minutes than the average of his first 3 years.

He's also blocking more shots than he ever before in his first 3 seasons. See I'm not a hater!

OTOH, he's getting fewer steals than ever -- which must mean that yeah I am a hater, right? I mean... I mentioned the fact -- which proves I'm a hater, doesn't it?

Yet, Rui is committing fewer fouls this year than his 1st, 2d or 3d years -- since I'm pointing out the fact, doesn't that mean that I'm not a Rui hater?

But, tell me prime... if I respond to your point that tonight...

...As a team we are 38/91. Hachimura shot 7/12. The only player above 50% from the field.

by pointing out that in addition to Rui, all three of Morris, Gafford & Goodwin shot "above 50% from the field," does that indicate that there is no doubt, & I absolutely must be a Rui hater?

What if I go further & allude to the fact that Monte Morris actually shot even better than Rui? I mean... he did, didn't he?

Don't worry; it's just arithmetic: I won't call you a "Rui hater" if you agree that 18 points on 12 shots & 2 FTAs is actually better than 15 points on 12 shots & 1 FTA.

That's true, isn't it?

It was definitely nice to see Rui shoot well -- & move well overall.

Edit -- I see you corrected yourself, at least partially, on the shooting issue. Not all the way, but at least a little bit.

Definitely some ugly shooting from KP & Deni!

[Dat2U]

I'll 'hate' on Rui. Regardless of his shot making, his game does not translate to winning basketball and. he's a continual on court drag on both sides of the ball. The Wizards could give Rui's minutes to a replacement level player and not miss a beat.

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I'll 'hate' on Rui. Regardless of his shot making, his game does not translate to winning basketball and. he's a continual on court drag on both sides of the ball. The Wizards could give Rui's minutes to a replacement level player and not miss a beat.

At least you accept it. Other people on this board try to masquerade their hate as objective criticism. Btw, I have a question. What does a "replacement level player" even mean lol.

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I'd point out that we could give Deni's minutes to a replacement level player and not miss a beat.

[Wizraeli]

I'd point out that we could replace the entire team + coach to a replacement level team + coach and not miss a beat.

[montestewart]

I'd point out that we could replace the entire team + coach to a replacement level team + coach and not miss a beat.

10th seed = replacement level

[Runner300]

So where are the Deni stans complaining tonight that he played not enough minutes? Wes had him playing 23 despite shooting 2 of 11 from the field and 0-4 from three-point (-11) and yes, his D was good on Morant.

The complains were not about his minutes.
But of course, you're right. This one game Deni was properly used and didn't deliver.
From now on, no more complains of any sort.

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I'll 'hate' on Rui. Regardless of his shot making, his game does not translate to winning basketball and. he's a continual on court drag on both sides of the ball. The Wizards could give Rui's minutes to a replacement level player and not miss a beat.

At least you accept it. Other people on this board try to masquerade their hate as objective criticism....

Sheesh....

Dat put the word in single quotation marks -- which means he's using it ironically. What he did was, exactly, provide objective criticism of Rui.

On the other hand, you are the opposite of objective about Rui. You've shown over now multiple years is that, in your eyes, anyone who criticizes Rui's play is a "hater."

To that you've added weird assessments of Rui's positive value as a player that are altogether jaw-dropping & have nothing whatever to do with the actual numbers he creates while on court nor with any way he improves other players (that shows up either in their numbers or in team numbers while Rui's on the court).

So I'd say the person "masquerading" as objective on the subject of Rui is you, prime.

I should be clear -- there's nothing wrong with having a favorite player! & for sure there's nothing wrong with rooting for Rui to become good. &, if you want to call people 'haters' for talking objectively about Rui, hey, it's your privilege!

But, it's not "objective." So let's have an "objective" look at Rui's performance against the Grizz -- & compare his numbers "objectively" with the numbers put up in the same game by his old friend & Gonzaga teammate Brandon Clarke.

In 22 minutes, Rui scored 15 points on 12 shots & 1 FTA.
In 21 minutes, Clarke scored 16 points on 8 shots & 2 FTAs.

Who scored more efficiently, prime?

Did Rui score more efficiently than his college buddy?
Or did his roomie Brandon Clarke score more efficiently?

How about the rest of the two guys' play?

Who had more rebounds -- Did Rui out-rebound Clarke? Or did it go the other way?

Who had more assists -- Rui? Or did Clarke have more assists than Rui?

Who blocked more shots? Did Rui block any shots? How about Clarke?

Tell me, prime, wouldn't you say that Brandon Clarke had a better outing than Rui Hachimura last night?

[DCZards]

I'll 'hate' on Rui. Regardless of his shot making, his game does not translate to winning basketball and. he's a continual on court drag on both sides of the ball. The Wizards could give Rui's minutes to a replacement level player and not miss a beat.

At least you accept it. Other people on this board try to masquerade their hate as objective criticism....

Sheesh....

Dat put the word in single quotation marks -- which means he's using it ironically. What he did was, exactly, provide objective criticism of Rui.

On the other hand, you are the opposite of objective about Rui. You've shown over now multiple years is that, in your eyes, anyone who criticizes Rui's play is a "hater."

To that you've added weird assessments of Rui's positive value as a player that are altogether jaw-dropping & have nothing whatever to do with the actual numbers he creates while on court nor with any way he improves other players (that shows up either in their numbers or in team numbers while Rui's on the court).

So I'd say the person "masquerading" as objective on the subject of Rui is you, prime.

I should be clear -- there's nothing wrong with having a favorite player! & for sure there's nothing wrong with rooting for Rui to become good. &, if you want to call people 'haters' for talking objectively about Rui, hey, it's your privilege!

But, it's not "objective." So let's have an "objective" look at Rui's performance against the Grizz -- & compare his numbers "objectively" with the numbers put up in the same game by his old friend & Gonzaga teammate Brandon Clarke.

In 22 minutes, Rui scored 15 points on 12 shots & 1 FTA.
In 21 minutes, Clarke scored 16 points on 8 shots & 2 FTAs.

Who scored more efficiently, prime?

Did Rui score more efficiently than his college buddy?
Or did his roomie Brandon Clarke score more efficiently?

How about the rest of the two guys' play?

Who had more rebounds -- Did Rui out-rebound Clarke? Or did it go the other way?

Who had more assists -- Rui? Or did Clarke have more assists than Rui?

Who blocked more shots? Did Rui block any shots? How about Clarke?

Tell me, prime, wouldn't you say that Brandon Clarke had a better outing than Rui Hachimura last night?

No doubt Clarke was more efficient than Rui. The numbers say that. But Clarke also had the benefit of getting easy hoops off of nice feeds from Morant and another all-star level player in Bane. Rui, on the other hand, was more often than not creating his own offense...something Rui is better at than Clarke.