The Brooklyn Nets named Jacque Vaughn as HC 11.9.22

[MrDollarBills]

It's pretty obvious that the Nets wanted Udoka but didn't have the stomach for more negative press after the Kyrie situation. Or the league didn't want any more negative press.

There's a bunch of people downplaying everything who think trying to win should be above everything. This past year+ is maybe the most disfunction any team has faced in NBA history. I wish that was an exaggeration. I don't blame the Nets for laying low.

Right. the optics are really bad surrounding this team right now. Like take a step outside of our echo chamber...the Nets are despised nationally.

My conjectured take: Adam Silver most likely knows exactly what happened in Boston and told Tsai to fall the f back because he was doing too much. Kyrie's scandal + Nash firing and then you bring in Ime who clearly crossed some kind of red line with his behavior..

This situation is so bad that winning isn't even a cure all here.

[MrDollarBills]

Kyrie is such a distraction it overshadows the worst front office(Owner/GM/Coach) in the history of sports. A team that could’ve been on par with the 17 Warriors fumbled.
Like a 30 for 30 would be amazing. No one ever seen such consecutive terrible decisions from a front office.
We had Durant/Harden/Kyrie.
MDA coming off a system that challenged the dynasty of the era.
A Spencer trade that could’ve netted anything from a multiple role players to a fringe star(Joe/Spencer even was rumored for Simmons).
Two late picks.
No one could mess that up…unless you go one way super small. Not get a return for you best asset. Not use the system that your star guard use.

Only non-Nets fans should want a 30 for 30. Being reminded of and actively reliving everything would probably have me rage quit out of following this team anymore.

All of us are going to have PTSD from this, I couldn't bring myself to watch.

The only good thing that has come out of this era of Nets basketball is that trading Caris LeVert subsequently saved his life. That's it.

[Riconet]

It's pretty obvious that the Nets wanted Udoka but didn't have the stomach for more negative press after the Kyrie situation. Or the league didn't want any more negative press.

There's a bunch of people downplaying everything who think trying to win should be above everything. This past year+ is maybe the most disfunction any team has faced in NBA history. I wish that was an exaggeration. I don't blame the Nets for laying low.

Totally agree. Udoka would've just meant more drama. The Nets need to get back to low-drama, patient, professional team-building.

There was zero possibility of them making a run this season, and accordingly zero possibility of an accomplished coach like Snyder coming here.

Vaughan will be fine to fill the seat while Marks dumps Kyrie and Simmons, and possibly KD, between now and the start of next season. If he teaches and inspires the young guys, and KD decides he likes him and is willing to stick around for the next phase, so much the better.

[ArksNetsSince99]

This Franchise is tire fire , if hiring Vaughn is continuity then we will continue to suck in current or rebuild mode , yes we played better last 4 games but I didn’t see different philosophy than what Nash was doing all along

Marks is a puppet and needs to GTFO , in what world Nash or Vaughn is better than what we originally had ? Atkinson ?

[therealbig3]

Nah, I think Udoka took a look at this situation and was like "hell no" and decided against coming here. Don't think it was us turning him down.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Just from players perspective

Udoka was at the helm of the team who swept us last season - that makes players buy in into new system

Vaughn was one of the clowns who got swept- this alone makes them quit before Christmas

Now watch Sixers replacing Doc with Udoka and being contender / and of course there will be trades in the future, Grants Williams’s /Smarts/ maybe even Brown who will rejoin their favorite coach as soon as **** hit the fan in Boston , all of this while we continue to suck under almighty Vaughn

[ArksNetsSince99]

Nah, I think Udoka took a look at this situation and was like "hell no" and decided against coming here. Don't think it was us turning him down.

Nope , people related to Udoka would’ve leak this info immediately , he doesn’t need further damage to his name if he was declining us

[MrDollarBills]

Nah, I think Udoka took a look at this situation and was like "hell no" and decided against coming here. Don't think it was us turning him down.

I guess he's learned to think before making an impulsive decision.

[Skybox]

Congrats on the exciting hire . JV is a proven fall guy place holder veteran coach. Good luck with the sell-off...ORL could really use one of your snipers...All good Brooklyn -you took a big swing. I admire that from one of those "patient, methodical" franchises that remain irrelevant. Seriously, go big or go home. It didn't work out. Start over while you can still fleece another team for a zillion picks.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm honestly fine with this.

Udoka was bringing too much drama. Vaughn is way better than Nash. Not even close.

[sashaturiaf]

If you want any further evidence of how bad Nash was Jevon Carter just dropped 34 points in a win. And he looked like the worst player in the league for us

[MrDollarBills]

If you want any further evidence of how bad Nash was Jevon Carter just dropped 34 points in a win. And he looked like the worst player in the league for us

Look at our defense since Vaughn took over.

Nash was holding this team back.

[TheNetsFan]

If you want any further evidence of how bad Nash was Jevon Carter just dropped 34 points in a win. And he looked like the worst player in the league for us

Look at our defense since Vaughn took over.

Nash was holding this team back.

I can't put it all on Nash since the timing overlaps too closely with Kyrie. In the one game with Kyrie & without Nash, we lost & gave up 108. Without either, we've given up 84, 94, 96, 85. I don't know if we can say for sure that the chemistry and effort would not have improved with Nash & without Kyrie.

Odds are the Nash-Kyrie relationship was toxic and polluting the locker room. Vaughn's biggest test will be if we try to re-insert Kyrie.

[TheNetsFan]

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[Hello Brooklyn]

If you want any further evidence of how bad Nash was Jevon Carter just dropped 34 points in a win. And he looked like the worst player in the league for us

Look at our defense since Vaughn took over.

Nash was holding this team back.

I can't put it all on Nash since the timing overlaps too closely with Kyrie. In the one game with Kyrie & without Nash, we lost & gave up 108. Without either, we've given up 84, 94, 96, 85. I don't know if we can say for sure that the chemistry and effort would not have improved with Nash & without Kyrie.

Odds are the Nash-Kyrie relationship was toxic and polluting the locker room. Vaughn's biggest test will be if we try to re-insert Kyrie.

Blaming Kyrie is stupid.

He was playing great.

The defense was the issue. It was always the issue under Nash.

Suddenly hes gone and our defense is transformed. How could that possibly be Kyrie's fault?

Nash just didn't know what he was doing.

[MrDollarBills]

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I think we're seeing evidence that both Nash and Kyrie were problematic. Nash was clueless, but Kyrie's freelancing and defense were issues as well.

[Michael Jackson]

Nets really screwed this up. Jim Boylen is who they should have hired, and if he wasn't available go after Jim Boylan. I say this a s a Bulls fan, it is the only thing that can make a trainwreck more interesting. It would take the heat off the team and it ends up just jawdropping bad coaching to the center stage!


All that being said, I think right now you just ride out Vaughn and Tsai can eat his contract at the end of the year if need be. The early season hires are really tough and sometimes just riding the interim until the end of the year and knowing what the team will look like is prudent.

Had to likely give Vaughn the longer contract too because he knows time is short likely with this squad and to convince him to do it had to throw him some cash. Say for some reason it works out, well you still have him under contract, if not really not too big of a pill to swallow (less than paying Simmons, KD or Kyrie not to play)

[Eatgreenz]

Another option if we trade Kai could be Shai, he's upset with losing OKC wants to lose and kai's an expiring contract its a possibilty besides a Paul George and AD trade

[GTR11]

He should have been a coach in the first place before Nash unfairly got the job.

What exactly he has done to worn this gig?

What we witnessing here is hype and some type of commitment. This is Kokoskov X and O that team running on right now. Kokoskov for all his short comings was OK assistant behind Rick.

I'm still thinking not blowing this team up was huge mistake. Simply because not one good coach will entertain idea of coming here. KD and Kyrie for all the talent they have became toxic commodity. Not starting this season with coach like Snyder or Borega along with Brown and Ben was/is tremendous failure to understand what's going on.

Right now we not progressing, we just kicked can down the road. Marks thinks it's a right thing to do apparently, the way this cap is set, we going to rebuild after 2024-25 anyway.

[GTR11]

Nets really screwed this up. Jim Boylen is who they should have hired, and if he wasn't available go after Jim Boylan. I say this a s a Bulls fan, it is the only thing that can make a trainwreck more interesting. It would take the heat off the team and it ends up just jawdropping bad coaching to the center stage!


All that being said, I think right now you just ride out Vaughn and Tsai can eat his contract at the end of the year if need be. The early season hires are really tough and sometimes just riding the interim until the end of the year and knowing what the team will look like is prudent.

Had to likely give Vaughn the longer contract too because he knows time is short likely with this squad and to convince him to do it had to throw him some cash. Say for some reason it works out, well you still have him under contract, if not really not too big of a pill to swallow (less than paying Simmons, KD or Kyrie not to play)