#24 - MarJon Beauchamp - NEW POLL ADDED 12/4/23

[CharityStripe34]

Now that we, and Giannis, have built him up, I'm expecting a pube game tomorrow night.

[chonestown]

Don't overrate how he shot. It's not what the G League Ignite works on. He'll be a good shooter.

I loved the way him and Daniels defended, rebounded, and competed when I saw him play live.

STJ really distinguished himself in this thread. Props to the man.

Really, the scouting reports were generally accurate on MJB, though the Ringer twice singled out his ballhandling for praise, easily the weakest part of his game at present. I think it was Mike Schmitz who drew particular attention to his balance on defense and that's the one trait that jumps out to me. Once he couples that with time getting Suki-fied, he's going to be a problem.

I can't speak to his mechanics on his shot, save that it looks good, I guess. I feel like he has more touch than Nwora, his ball less apt to get treated brusquely if it hits rim. Nwora is either dead-on good or it's a miss.

Moral of the story: you can do worse than to draft someone who aligns his training and skill set with what is most likely going to land him in rotation. It's taking the mindset of developing g-level guys for specific roles and extrapolating it to the draft..

[M-C-G]

Don't overrate how he shot. It's not what the G League Ignite works on. He'll be a good shooter.

I loved the way him and Daniels defended, rebounded, and competed when I saw him play live.

STJ really distinguished himself in this thread. Props to the man.

Really, the scouting reports were generally accurate on MJB, though the Ringer twice singled out his ballhandling for praise, easily the weakest part of his game at present. I think it was Mike Schmitz who drew particular attention to his balance on defense and that's the one trait that jumps out to me. Once he couples that with time getting Suki-fied, he's going to be a problem.

I can't speak to his mechanics on his shot, save that it looks good, I guess. I feel like he has more touch than Nwora, his ball less apt to get treated brusquely if it hits rim. Nwora is either dead-on good or it's a miss.

Moral of the story: you can do worse than to draft someone who aligns his training and skill set with what is most likely going to land him in rotation. It's taking the mindset of developing g-level guys for specific roles and extrapolating it to the draft..

Every once in a while though he breaks out a really slick handle, so maybe it is in there somewhere. And there was a kind of step back off that dribble 3 from the corner which looked very Tatumsy.

[emunney]

Don't overrate how he shot. It's not what the G League Ignite works on. He'll be a good shooter.

I loved the way him and Daniels defended, rebounded, and competed when I saw him play live.

STJ really distinguished himself in this thread. Props to the man.

Really, the scouting reports were generally accurate on MJB, though the Ringer twice singled out his ballhandling for praise, easily the weakest part of his game at present. I think it was Mike Schmitz who drew particular attention to his balance on defense and that's the one trait that jumps out to me. Once he couples that with time getting Suki-fied, he's going to be a problem.

I can't speak to his mechanics on his shot, save that it looks good, I guess. I feel like he has more touch than Nwora, his ball less apt to get treated brusquely if it hits rim. Nwora is either dead-on good or it's a miss.

Moral of the story: you can do worse than to draft someone who aligns his training and skill set with what is most likely going to land him in rotation. It's taking the mindset of developing g-level guys for specific roles and extrapolating it to the draft..

Every once in a while though he breaks out a really slick handle, so maybe it is in there somewhere. And there was a kind of step back off that dribble 3 from the corner which looked very Tatumsy.

To my eye: the skill is there, the application is not.

[AussieBuck]

He's got a way more advanced handle than your average wing, it's just loose as hell right now. That and he's the anti-Donte in that he's super ambitious going for that power dribble in the paint rather than stretching out from long range.

[chonestown]

He's got a way more advanced handle than your average wing, it's just loose as hell right now. That and he's the anti-Donte in that he's super ambitious going for that power dribble in the paint rather than stretching out from long range.

I guess I equate "loose" with not good, but I get where you're coming from. Same sentiment as Em.

Better news if it's a matter of refining what's there rather than creating something currently not in existence.

.imo

[Prez]

He’s gotta keep starting when Khris is back too. Even if he has bumps and rough stretches along the way and it isn’t our optimal starting lineup, let him work through it and get him all the reps with the big 3 and against opposing starters now so he’s ready by playoff time.

[AussieBuck]

He's got a way more advanced handle than your average wing, it's just loose as hell right now. That and he's the anti-Donte in that he's super ambitious going for that power dribble in the paint rather than stretching out from long range.

I guess I equate "loose" with not good, but I get where you're coming from. Same sentiment as Em.

Better news if it's a matter of refining what's there rather than creating something currently not in existence.

.imo

yeah we're loose with language here. What I'm seeing is that he doesn't need to come up with any new stuff, just needs the ball to be going where he needs it to more precisely and not where it can be swiped away. But again I think a bit of that comes from his beautiful Manu like ambition to see if a small crease is a driving lane. One of my favourite basketball traits.

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Can't remember the last time I've seen something like that with a Buck player, has to be Brogdon

[TroyD92]

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Jabari has been really bad too

[Prez]

Jabari has been really bad too

His numbers are hilariously bad so far this year. 7 PER, 32% FG (34% from 2), negative win shares, Rockets are -21 points per 100 poss with him on court lol, worst +/- among rookies by a mile. He’s only on here because he was the #3 pick.

[BucksFanSD]

Yeah the red flags I saw during summer league exposed some flaws that I had called out against Jabari Smith. Not sold on him.

MarJon is looking great. I am seeing it at the NBA level and I am sold now. His first breakout game, against the TWolves, he wasnt guarded much, but since then he has been guarded well and he has responded. Just great to see and makes a huge difference that he is a draft pick adding value on the court.

[skones]

He’s gotta keep starting when Khris is back too. Even if he has bumps and rough stretches along the way and it isn’t our optimal starting lineup, let him work through it and get him all the reps with the big 3 and against opposing starters now so he’s ready by playoff time.

I guess I don't agree with this approach. We're trying to win a title, we're not in a position to force feed him starts. There's plenty of season left and there's plenty of opportunity to sprinkle him in. On the sports psychology side of things, it's important to keep his confidence level high, and I'm not sure adding that level of pressure is the best way to go about that, particularly when you consider the level of play guys like Jrue, Khris, and Giannis demand having won a championship.

He's had three really nice contests, and he's had duds. I don't think, given what we've seen to this juncture, there's reason to suddenly change course here.

[CharityStripe34]

He’s gotta keep starting when Khris is back too. Even if he has bumps and rough stretches along the way and it isn’t our optimal starting lineup, let him work through it and get him all the reps with the big 3 and against opposing starters now so he’s ready by playoff time.

I guess I don't agree with this approach. We're trying to win a title, we're not in a position to force feed him starts. There's plenty of season left and there's plenty of opportunity to sprinkle him in. On the sports psychology side of things, it's important to keep his confidence level high, and I'm not sure adding that level of pressure is the best way to go about that, particularly when you consider the level of play guys like Jrue, Khris, and Giannis demand having won a championship.

He's had three really nice contests, and he's had duds. I don't think, given what we've seen to this juncture, there's reason to suddenly change course here.

At this point, I'd be fine with him getting the Wes/Hill minutes once Khris and Pat are back. 2nd or 3rd guy off the bench. His baseline is already positive production (mostly).

[emunney]

I'd like to see him go down to the G League for a few games once Khris and Pat are up to speed.

[brewbucks]

Doppelgängers MarJon and Pharrell Williams

[crkone]

I really like how squared up he gets on defense, and most jump shots. Really reminds me of Jrue in that regard.

[Matches Malone]

Jabari has been really bad too

His numbers are hilariously bad so far this year. 7 PER, 32% FG (34% from 2), negative win shares, Rockets are -21 points per 100 poss with him on court lol, worst +/- among rookies by a mile. He’s only on here because he was the #3 pick.

I think Jabari is going to be that prospect that takes longer to develop and in a few seasons we'll say, "Why did we ever count him out?" He's got some growing in his body to do, but I think he's still got loads of untapped potential. Hopefully, he can figure it out in Houston and doesn't need a couple of different team stops before figuring it out, kind of like Markkanen this season.

[Shaffty]

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