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Re: Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0 

Post#1381 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:58 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:The funny thing about that KD quote is that in the same interview he’s says “I’m not a leader? What the f*ck does that mean?” :lol:


Durant just wants to be great he doesn't want to lead
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Post#1382 » by DCasey91 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:37 pm

76ciology wrote:Trae Young this season
38% FG%
30% 3pt%

I’d also trade him IMO. He’s a big liability on the defensive end and he is not good against big teams with size. And the trend now is teams are adding size. Dejounte Also seems to be playing well


They are third in the east and a a lot closer to their finished product then we are. He’s led the league in assists and has the most 30/10 games since he started his career.

Young’s play making is the most underrated thing about him, shooting is just the variance part which is fine.

To me they have 4/5 set.

Young
Murray
Hunter
Okongwu

3++ defenders

Get a solid 4 or just get Myles Turner and trade Collins/Capela and they are off to the races.
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Post#1383 » by DCasey91 » Thu Nov 17, 2022 8:42 pm

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spikeslovechild wrote:I am just going to say it Durant is nice but is clearly slowing down.

You don't see it in the stats but one major thing I've noticed is he isn't really competing on defense anymore. I'd be real hesitant to give up Maxey for him considering he is already 34. We already have Harden who is 33. Not to mention both are injury prone along with Embiid.

Maxey is sort of the spark plug who is the only guy who can push our transition offense.



You are overthinking it, it’s KD. He’s literally unguardable and can score 30 with no system.

Look we all rate Maxey but he’s not in my eyes a championship starter. Great sixth man in the regular season sure. But the real thing is way different. He’s 100% a defensive liability with no size that’s not good for team weaknesses which we have plenty of.

KD is legit or looks like 7ft so length alone will hold it in good stead.

The injury-prone nature is always going to be there with Harden/Embiid so no use worrying about it. Love/Gallo/Hayward would be excellent here as they fit perfectly alongside Embiid and not Tobias but that is a whole different kettle of fish.


I mean when I look at this offense one of the main concerns I have is the lack of pace and transition opportunities and that is with Maxey and him being really our only weapon in transition.

I'd actually like for us to find someone more athletic than Tucker and move him to the bench. One guy that kind of interests me is Obi he is super athletic and can run the floor his 3Pt shooting has gotten better yet he has struggled to find consistent minutes. That's not to say I wouldn't make the Durant trade because at the end of the day I would but we would be one of the slowest teams in the league and honestly, I wouldn't be shocked to see one of the younger teams run them off the court in the playoffs.


Playoffs it slows down, different game, liabilities/weaknesses get greatly magnified. Curry our nuke got exposed by a ranga etc etc. way different. Slow pace is good if we play to our strengths. Bucks/Celtics are methodical too and those 2 are the main contenders no one else in the East.

But yes I’d rather have Melton or Thybulle in the starting unit as a wing, our rebounding is worst in comp so unless we somehow get Hart then that ain’t going to change.
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Post#1384 » by Eyeamok » Fri Nov 18, 2022 2:34 pm

Don't look now but Vaughn has got the Nets playing better. When Kyire comes back, I think he comes back with something to prove and plays much better. Better coaching, more locked into playing and getting better usage out of Simmons. This team may not be dead yet.
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Post#1385 » by Murray_17 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 6:05 pm

Eyeamok wrote:Don't look now but Vaughn has got the Nets playing better. When Kyire comes back, I think he comes back with something to prove and plays much better. Better coaching, more locked into playing and getting better usage out of Simmons. This team may not be dead yet.



They still can't pair Simmons with Claxton, which means they don't have size to be a good defending team. And playing Simmons means they cannot play another non shooting guy.

They could look better in the regular season but are gonna get killed still on the Playoffs.

They also have to figure out how to make Kyrie an off ball guy with Simmons on the floor.

Tbh, they don't worry me at all
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Post#1386 » by shlo » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:06 pm

Watching Haliburton really makes me wish Morey had made that deal instead of Harden. Haliburton and Hield and picks for Simmons would put this team in much better shape. I think Haliburton is better than Harden right now. And he's only 22. And he defends. And he stays healthy.
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Post#1387 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:15 pm

Morey is thinking big picture. The storytelling is far better if he wins with Harden. He's thinking about the documentary, book, movie. This was a legacy play.
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Post#1388 » by shlo » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:26 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Morey is thinking big picture. The storytelling is far better if he wins with Harden. He's thinking about the documentary, book, movie. This was a legacy play.



I think the Harden trade is the final nail in the coffin for this team's hopes of winning. We'll see a rebuild before we'll see a finals appearance.
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Post#1389 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:39 pm

Probably ends up that way.

But that path was unavoidable when we screwed up the 2016, 2017 and 2018 drafts three years in a row. Harden is a miracle heave in an attempt to overcome that.
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Post#1390 » by shlo » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:14 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Probably ends up that way.

But that path was unavoidable when we screwed up the 2016, 2017 and 2018 drafts three years in a row. Harden is a miracle heave in an attempt to overcome that.

There were smarter moves that could have been made.
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Post#1391 » by phillynative » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:25 pm

shlo wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Probably ends up that way.

But that path was unavoidable when we screwed up the 2016, 2017 and 2018 drafts three years in a row. Harden is a miracle heave in an attempt to overcome that.

There were smarter moves that could have been made.


Both you guys have a point just seems this organization has been grasping at straws for years now. Trying to clean up mess after mess and mistake after mistake. :banghead: .
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Post#1392 » by Zumramania » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:19 am

shlo wrote:Watching Haliburton really makes me wish Morey had made that deal instead of Harden. Haliburton and Hield and picks for Simmons would put this team in much better shape. I think Haliburton is better than Harden right now. And he's only 22. And he defends. And he stays healthy.


Yeah, it maybe looks like that atm. But I think if they load manage Harden properly, he will be very dangerous in the playoffs, more so than Haliburton. Haliburton would have been a move for the future (him & Maxey potentially being the franchise cornerstone for many years to come), Harden is a win now move. We'll see what is smarter.
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Post#1393 » by Negrodamus » Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:02 am

I still think Fox and Embiid would have been an excellent duo, but Maxey really screws with that dynamic.
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Post#1394 » by Sixteen » Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:25 am

Not having harden, Maxey, and maybe Harris just sucks the life and meaning out of Tuesday game.
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Post#1395 » by Sixteen » Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:47 am

Happy for the kings. Hope they keep it up
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Post#1396 » by phillynative » Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:17 am

Phila Tough wrote:Not having harden, Maxey, and maybe Harris just sucks the life and meaning out of Tuesday game.


Should just let the scrubs battle with them. Rest Embiids ankle.
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Post#1397 » by Sixteen » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:44 am

phillynative wrote:
Phila Tough wrote:Not having harden, Maxey, and maybe Harris just sucks the life and meaning out of Tuesday game.


Should just let the scrubs battle with them. Rest Embiids ankle.


Agreed. If it gets out of hand, I hope doc pulls embiid quick. I'd like to win but there's nothing to prove with 3 of our best scorers out vs a largely healthy team
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Post#1398 » by Sixteen » Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:47 am

I wonder if the heat continue to slide if they would be sellers or buyers @ the deadline. Yes it's still early but they look very average from the games I've watched
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Post#1399 » by 76ciology » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:16 am

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Post#1400 » by Sixteen » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am

phillynative wrote:
shlo wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Probably ends up that way.

But that path was unavoidable when we screwed up the 2016, 2017 and 2018 drafts three years in a row. Harden is a miracle heave in an attempt to overcome that.

There were smarter moves that could have been made.


Both you guys have a point just seems this organization has been grasping at straws for years now. Trying to clean up mess after mess and mistake after mistake. :banghead: .


The NBA helped with forcing Bryan Colangelo on us. Idk if Hinkie takes Fultz or does that trade. Judging by his history of trades, I highly doubt it..Ben Simmons requesting a trade after **** the bed also set us back a bit because we were forced to take whatever we could get. Harden is not Houston harden but he is still a really good player. I think Harden/Maxey/Embiid is enough to win a chip, it's just the team has done such a poor job surrounding them with complementary players.

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