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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#241 » by Ell Curry » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:48 am

Dalek wrote:The guy I will never quite on is Terrence Shannon Jr. He was at Texas Tech for three years and never took a big step-up numbers wise- but he still shot it well enough. Now on Illinois where he can play his game more, we might see the NBA player that I thought he would be:

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He is 6'6, athletic, can shoot pull-up 3s from deep, defend 1-4, and can drive in transition well. Hard to get a read on his playmaking because Texas Tech was a weird system, but Illy is letting him show his skills.

It is early, but he has a BPM of 17, 2.6 block% and 2.1 steal% which are elite for any player. He will be 23 next summer, but I expect him and Coleman Hawkins will get more national attention this year and Shannon will get some draft love.


I'm with you. Really good fit for us, he might have even cracked this year's rotation as a backup 2 guard. Masai hasn't tended to take low upside 3 and D guys (cost us with Bane) but a guy who can play our style of D from the 2 guard spot while hitting 3s seems like a pretty good result from the #20 pick.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#242 » by Ell Curry » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:51 am

Jett Howard update: Defence is horrendous, but shot is for real. Maybe he slips to #50 or we get a 2nd in a trade.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#243 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:55 pm

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Thoughts? It looks like we can get an ideal wing player this draft. Someone who could replace GT Jr. in the future or an excellent BPA.
I think he broke his hand and is out for a while or even the whole season. He was ranked pretty highly, but could be a good buy low guy like we got with OG after the injury.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#245 » by grant101 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:31 pm

Dalek wrote:Get ready for Olivier Maxence "O-Max" Prosper. Tremendous toolsy 6'8 foward with good athleticism, played for Team Canada on their u19 program and is now with Marquette. Just like the kid and his bball family shows his great makeup:



O-Max went off for 31 recently:

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A bit of his strong defense shown here - looking like Dorian Finney Smith:
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How cool is the name O-Max? Can already see "OG to O-Max for the alley-oop" call by Devlin.


Hard not to cheer for O-Max! If the 3pt shot is real, he absolutely has a place in the league and might even crack the first round. Really didnt see his strong start coming after last year, would be a really cool second round steal. I like the DFS comp too.

Too bad we didn't keep Oshae around... we could have sent out an entire front court with O names! Lol
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#246 » by Psubs » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:33 pm



Maybe his brother in the 2nd round?
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#247 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:37 pm

dgr81 wrote:unfortunately the raps will waste whatever pick they get on another long boi who's defense is overrated and who's offense is non-existant.

no idea why they think drafting guys with no offense will work in the 21st century.

Yeah it has worked horribly for us with Siakam Anunoby and Barnes. Just dreadful.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#248 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:11 am

Which picks do we have in this draft? Please & thanks. (like 1st rounder 2nd rounder or two 2nd rounders or something).

EDIT: Disregard it's in the OP we own our 1st & 2nd round. sweet!
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#249 » by Los_29 » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:56 am

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dgr81 wrote:unfortunately the raps will waste whatever pick they get on another long boi who's defense is overrated and who's offense is non-existant.

no idea why they think drafting guys with no offense will work in the 21st century.

Yeah it has worked horribly for us with Siakam Anunoby and Barnes. Just dreadful.


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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#250 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:06 am

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dgr81 wrote:unfortunately the raps will waste whatever pick they get on another long boi who's defense is overrated and who's offense is non-existant.

no idea why they think drafting guys with no offense will work in the 21st century.

Yeah it has worked horribly for us with Siakam Anunoby and Barnes. Just dreadful.


Poeltl #9, Norm #46, Fred undrafted

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#251 » by Psubs » Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:53 pm

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Maybe his brother in the 2nd round?




Some places list him at 6'6 and some now at 6'8. He looks like someone between Banton and OG. Good defensive instincts and shooting 40% from 3, with an A/T of over 2 with the GL Ignite.

He already guards the point of attack. If he's legit 6'8 he should move up from mid-20's to mid-teens. Hopefully some teams pick up the Thompson twins keeping Sissoko in our range. So these injuries might keep the Raptors around the 5th/6th seed with a chance to draft this 18 year old.

He looks like AJ Griffin in Tari Eason's body with more PG skills.

@3:43 this pass with his LEFT hand looks like something Scottie does.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#252 » by grant101 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:16 am

Brice Sensabaugh is such a cool prospect. Like Terquavion Smith in the body of a football player lol. Straight-up baller. Such a fun player.

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Post#253 » by Psubs » Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:03 am



Just like Florida State recruited well with Patrick Williams, Scottie Barnes and Devin Vassell, maybe Arizona does well with Mathurin, Koloko and Tubelis?



Emoni Bates, once seen as a possible #1 pick is now a 2nd rounder like Brandon Boston. I think with a good season he could be a candidate for the Raptors 1st round pick. He's got such a quick release and at 6'9 may be a poor man's McGrady. He might be just a taller Malik Monk. He's already shooting NBA range step back 3's.

How crazy lanky would a lineup of Banton, Bates, Barnes, Siakam and Koloko be?!?!?



Though he's a black hole, but I guess a 6'9 version of Gary Trent Jr.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#254 » by Dalek » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:24 pm

I think Nurse desire more rim pressure in the offense, but we lack the guards who are athletic enough to get there. The guard would also have to be able to defend.

I am becoming more of a believer that Judah Mintz from Syracuse is a first-round prospect. The numbers are good, but not great: 18 PPG, 29% from three, 3-2 asst/TO, 1.6 steals per game. But, for a freshman his film really pops as that explosive combo guard with some nice defensive instincts.

Early advance stats are only 3 games in, but he looks like a player:
5.2 BPM
2.2 Blk%
2.9 Stl%
20.8 ast%
32 FTR

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#255 » by Kevin Willis » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:12 pm

Dalek wrote:I think Nurse desire more rim pressure in the offense, but we lack the guards who are athletic enough to get there. The guard would also have to be able to defend.

I am becoming more of a believer that Judah Mintz from Syracuse is a first-round prospect. The numbers are good, but not great: 18 PPG, 29% from three, 3-2 asst/TO, 1.6 steals per game. But, for a freshman his film really pops as that explosive combo guard with some nice defensive instincts.

Early advance stats are only 3 games in, but he looks like a player:
5.2 BPM
2.2 Blk%
2.9 Stl%
20.8 ast%
32 FTR

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Do you see him as a second round pick? There are sooooo many good players this year that even though Mintz is special, he might not be special enough. Like Kris Murray is beasting and he's hardly getting noticed. Or Emoni for our second round pick - is he better than Mintz (I would love a 6'8" - 6'10" SG).
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#256 » by Dalek » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:19 pm

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Dalek wrote:I think Nurse desire more rim pressure in the offense, but we lack the guards who are athletic enough to get there. The guard would also have to be able to defend.

I am becoming more of a believer that Judah Mintz from Syracuse is a first-round prospect. The numbers are good, but not great: 18 PPG, 29% from three, 3-2 asst/TO, 1.6 steals per game. But, for a freshman his film really pops as that explosive combo guard with some nice defensive instincts.

Early advance stats are only 3 games in, but he looks like a player:
5.2 BPM
2.2 Blk%
2.9 Stl%
20.8 ast%
32 FTR

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Do you see him as a second round pick? There are sooooo many good players this year that even though Mintz is special, he might not be special enough. Like Kris Murray is beasting and he's hardly getting noticed. Or Emoni for our second round pick - is he better than Mintz (I would love a 6'8" - 6'10" SG).


It is super early and many things can change based on performance over the next while and of course all it takes is one March tourney to get some random on the national draft radar. Bleacher Report's early mock has Kris Murray at 17 and Judah Mintz at 26. Toronto's pick is in their mock is Ausar Thompson.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10056355-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-predictions

Why I like Mintz is the speed, playmaking and defensive impact. He pops at the college level and fits the modern Ja Morant style PG/SG. He has a really good handle and quirky decision making that give me hope he can make it.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#257 » by Kevin Willis » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:06 pm

Dalek wrote:
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Dalek wrote:I think Nurse desire more rim pressure in the offense, but we lack the guards who are athletic enough to get there. The guard would also have to be able to defend.

I am becoming more of a believer that Judah Mintz from Syracuse is a first-round prospect. The numbers are good, but not great: 18 PPG, 29% from three, 3-2 asst/TO, 1.6 steals per game. But, for a freshman his film really pops as that explosive combo guard with some nice defensive instincts.

Early advance stats are only 3 games in, but he looks like a player:
5.2 BPM
2.2 Blk%
2.9 Stl%
20.8 ast%
32 FTR

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?s=20&t=EQlM5k6Ln2a10k6ZqS_2Pg


Do you see him as a second round pick? There are sooooo many good players this year that even though Mintz is special, he might not be special enough. Like Kris Murray is beasting and he's hardly getting noticed. Or Emoni for our second round pick - is he better than Mintz (I would love a 6'8" - 6'10" SG).


It is super early and many things can change based on performance over the next while and of course all it takes is one March tourney to get some random on the national draft radar. Bleacher Report's early mock has Kris Murray at 17 and Judah Mintz at 26. Toronto's pick is in their mock is Ausar Thompson.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10056355-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-predictions

Why I like Mintz is the speed, playmaking and defensive impact. He pops at the college level and fits the modern Ja Morant style PG/SG. He has a really good handle and quirky decision making that give me hope he can make it.


Good points on Mintz. He's an upgrade to Flynn and can create and get to the rim. Plus he's not short at 6'4". He could eventually be a FVV replacement.

Imagine getting Ausar Thompson for our pick. Oh my, we can turn him into his brother.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#258 » by grant101 » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:16 am

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Do you see him as a second round pick? There are sooooo many good players this year that even though Mintz is special, he might not be special enough. Like Kris Murray is beasting and he's hardly getting noticed. Or Emoni for our second round pick - is he better than Mintz (I would love a 6'8" - 6'10" SG).


It is super early and many things can change based on performance over the next while and of course all it takes is one March tourney to get some random on the national draft radar. Bleacher Report's early mock has Kris Murray at 17 and Judah Mintz at 26. Toronto's pick is in their mock is Ausar Thompson.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10056355-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-predictions

Why I like Mintz is the speed, playmaking and defensive impact. He pops at the college level and fits the modern Ja Morant style PG/SG. He has a really good handle and quirky decision making that give me hope he can make it.


Good points on Mintz. He's an upgrade to Flynn and can create and get to the rim. Plus he's not short at 6'4". He could eventually be a FVV replacement.

Imagine getting Ausar Thompson for our pick. Oh my, we can turn him into his brother.


Oh man, love Judah Mintz's shot creation ability and agree with all the points you are both making. Pleasantly surprised with the defence as well.

Ausar would also be an amazing outcome! I'm generally against drafting another big wing with iffy shooting, but would make an exception in his case. If the shooting ever comes, he's got star potential
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#259 » by JShuttlesworth » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:24 am

Finally a good game out of Anthony Black early this week, he could be in our range

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#260 » by Ell Curry » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:53 am

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Just like Florida State recruited well with Patrick Williams, Scottie Barnes and Devin Vassell, maybe Arizona does well with Mathurin, Koloko and Tubelis?

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He can rebound and do some stuff on O but he looks like a 90s PF to me. I think he's an undrafted guy.
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