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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#21 » by HardenGoat » Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:55 am

Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#22 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:17 am

HardenGoat wrote:Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.


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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#23 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:19 am

HardenGoat wrote:Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.


If Tucker goes down, thats when we make a run until the end of the season and Doc will win COY
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Post#24 » by Embiid P » Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:59 am

The one silver lining to all of these injuries is that it will allow Tobias (assuming he returns tomorrow) to be the man for at least the next few games which will hopefully inflate his numbers and boost his trade value a bit.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#25 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:13 am

Embiid P wrote:The one silver lining to all of these injuries is that it will allow Tobias (assuming he returns tomorrow) to be the man for at least the next few games which will hopefully inflate his numbers and boost his trade value a bit.


Perfect timing with John Collins looking like in self destruct mode.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#26 » by Sixteen » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:17 am

Embiid P wrote:The one silver lining to all of these injuries is that it will allow Tobias (assuming he returns tomorrow) to be the man for at least the next few games which will hopefully inflate his numbers and boost his trade value a bit.


Lol teams know who Tobias is by now. Tobias value will be much higher next season and that's when we should strike
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Post#27 » by Embiid P » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:37 am

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Embiid P wrote:The one silver lining to all of these injuries is that it will allow Tobias (assuming he returns tomorrow) to be the man for at least the next few games which will hopefully inflate his numbers and boost his trade value a bit.


Lol teams know who Tobias is by now. Tobias value will be much higher next season and that's when we should strike


If we wait until next season to trade him though, it will be another year of Embiid and Harden's prime wasted. And by then Harden will likely walk and Embiid demand a trade in the offseason putting us back to square one.

Is it worth potentially risking that scenario simply to extract max value for Tobias? Not saying trade him for peanuts, but even if we end up taking back one or more longer contracts for better fitting pieces (i.e. a 3 and D forward and a true backup PG), I'd say that's a win for us.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#28 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:40 am

I feel like Doc might take a load management game at this point.
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Post#29 » by FlyingArrow » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:33 am

HardenGoat wrote:Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.


Would would you have cut instead? I'm guessing Springer?
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Post#30 » by FlyingArrow » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:36 am

This would be a good time for a Korklord game. He's been playing basically zero, but he's still the same streaky player. And at 25, he should be statistically at his peak. We're going to need some high variance going our direction to win. Can't get much more high variance than Furkan Korkmaz. Play him 30 minutes.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#31 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:36 am

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HardenGoat wrote:Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.


Would would you have cut instead? I'm guessing Springer?


DEFINITELY SPRINGER. I’d even prefer Isaiah Joe than him.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#32 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:37 am

FlyingArrow wrote:This would be a good time for a Korklord game. He's been playing basically zero, but he's still the same streaky player. And at 25, he should be statistically at his peak. We're going to need some high variance going our direction to win. Can't get much more high variance than Furkan Korkmaz. Play him 30 minutes.


Key match-ups of the game
Korklord vs Durant.
Julian Champagnie vs Ben Simmons
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#33 » by FlyingArrow » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:38 am

76ciology wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
HardenGoat wrote:Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.


Would would you have cut instead? I'm guessing Springer?


DEFINITELY SPRINGER. I’d even prefer Isaiah Joe than him.


I really don't know what we have in Springer, but he's young enough that he could still be great. That said - it's hard to think his potential was more important than having Bassey as another backup at center. Especially when Bassey dominated the G-league the way he did.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#34 » by FlyingArrow » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:39 am

76ciology wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:This would be a good time for a Korklord game. He's been playing basically zero, but he's still the same streaky player. And at 25, he should be statistically at his peak. We're going to need some high variance going our direction to win. Can't get much more high variance than Furkan Korkmaz. Play him 30 minutes.


Key match-ups of the game
Korklord vs Durant.
Julian Champagnie vs Ben Simmons


Korkmaz wins 1 out 6 of those. Or 1 out of 8 or 10. Hard to say. He's high variance, so it changes.

Seriously, though, where else is the offense coming from? It's not often, but he's shown the ability to be a high volume scorer at times.
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Post#35 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:41 am

Any chance Michael “Banchero’s Daddy” Foster Jr. will play this game?
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Post#36 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:44 am

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76ciology wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:This would be a good time for a Korklord game. He's been playing basically zero, but he's still the same streaky player. And at 25, he should be statistically at his peak. We're going to need some high variance going our direction to win. Can't get much more high variance than Furkan Korkmaz. Play him 30 minutes.


Key match-ups of the game
Korklord vs Durant.
Julian Champagnie vs Ben Simmons


Korkmaz wins 1 out 6 of those. Or 1 out of 8 or 10. Hard to say. He's high variance, so it changes.

Seriously, though, where else is the offense coming from? It's not often, but he's shown the ability to be a high volume scorer at times.


Korkmaz-Melton-Milton-Tobias dribble drive
Tobias-Harrell iso on mismatch created by dribble drive
Niang hail marys and attacking closeouts
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#37 » by FlyingArrow » Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:58 am

Looks like Korkmaz is hurt, too, anyway. Didn't realize that. He hardly played anyway.

That's based on the basketball-reference Injury Report. It doesn't list Springer, but if he's hurt, too, and all the day-to-day players are still out then that's 6.

76ciology wrote:Any chance Michael “Banchero’s Daddy” Foster Jr. will play this game?


If we really do have 6 injured players, we should have all 10 players available on the bench. And this is our depth chart:

PG Milton / (Melton)
SG Melton / House
SF Thybulle / (House) / (Niang) / Champagnie
PF Tucker / Niang / Foster
C Harrell / Reed

Minutes-wise, it will probably look like if we're down 6 players:
Milton 32 / Melton 16
Melton 20 / House 28
Thybulle 24 / Niang 18 / House 6
Tucker 34 / Niang 14
Harrell 28 / Reed 20

Still no court-time for the 2-way players.


Unrelated... we only have 16 players. Aren't rosters still 15 + 2 two-way players? If so, that means we cut Bassey purely for financial reasons. We didn't even use that roster spot.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#38 » by HardenGoat » Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:35 pm

FlyingArrow wrote:
HardenGoat wrote:Should have held on to Bassey until the deadline. I just don’t understand that decision. Next injury is Tucker if Doc keeps overplaying him. Need to punt these games if it looks ugly first quarter. This sucks, I hate injuries.


Would would you have cut instead? I'm guessing Springer?

We didn’t have to cut anyone. We have 14 on the roster right now. Could have kept one of either Bassey or Isiah Joe, instead waived both.
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#39 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:30 pm

FlyingArrow wrote:Looks like Korkmaz is hurt, too, anyway. Didn't realize that. He hardly played anyway.

That's based on the basketball-reference Injury Report. It doesn't list Springer, but if he's hurt, too, and all the day-to-day players are still out then that's 6.

76ciology wrote:Any chance Michael “Banchero’s Daddy” Foster Jr. will play this game?


If we really do have 6 injured players, we should have all 10 players available on the bench. And this is our depth chart:

PG Milton / (Melton)
SG Melton / House
SF Thybulle / (House) / (Niang) / Champagnie
PF Tucker / Niang / Foster
C Harrell / Reed

Minutes-wise, it will probably look like if we're down 6 players:
Milton 32 / Melton 16
Melton 20 / House 28
Thybulle 24 / Niang 18 / House 6
Tucker 34 / Niang 14
Harrell 28 / Reed 20

Still no court-time for the 2-way players.


Unrelated... we only have 16 players. Aren't rosters still 15 + 2 two-way players? If so, that means we cut Bassey purely for financial reasons. We didn't even use that roster spot.


Yes for financial reasons and we didnt use the roster spot, thats what i heard in Bodner’s Sixersbeat

I read Tobi is likely to play.

Milton
Melton
Tobias
Tucker
Reed or Harrell
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Re: Gm 17: Nets (8-9) @ 76ers (8-8) Tue 11/22 7:30 PM 

Post#40 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:43 pm

Only four teams are in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency this season

Suns (3, 8)
Pelicans (4, 5)
Cavs (5, 3)

and…

the Brooklyn Nets (8, 10)
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