Transfer Thread 2022/23

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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#501 » by HIF » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:07 pm

wco81 wrote:Forbes just said Mbappe was the highest-paid futbol player.

Would Real pay him even more? You'd think he'd get more endorsements playing in Paris than in Madrid, given he's the biggest French footballer star?


He'll get more money somewhere. Sadly that is how "football" is.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#502 » by wco81 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:23 pm

Or maybe because PSG hasn't been able to win the UCL that he wants to go to a place like Real?

It's too bad that the best players gravitate to clubs which are already loaded. It's kind of like big NBA free agents always trying to sign with the Lakers, but there's no salary cap in futbol so this trend won't stop.

And second tier clubs don't mind losing a superstar like Haaland because they can make tens of millions or more. A team like Dortmund can't increase revenues from having a player like Haaland because it's a smaller city so they sell these great players?

But PSG absolutely should have resources to keep superstar players, though maybe Paris isn't as into football as the UK, Italy, Spain.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#503 » by Foye » Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:01 pm

wco81 wrote:Or maybe because PSG hasn't been able to win the UCL that he wants to go to a place like Real?

It's too bad that the best players gravitate to clubs which are already loaded. It's kind of like big NBA free agents always trying to sign with the Lakers, but there's no salary cap in futbol so this trend won't stop.

And second tier clubs don't mind losing a superstar like Haaland because they can make tens of millions or more. A team like Dortmund can't increase revenues from having a player like Haaland because it's a smaller city so they sell these great players?

But PSG absolutely should have resources to keep superstar players, though maybe Paris isn't as into football as the UK, Italy, Spain.


A big factor in this is that clubs with less money simply can’t afford the superstar wages after the initial contract expires. Dortmund could by no means compete with what City pays Haaland now.
So they decide to sell the superstars 1 or 2 years before the contract expires rather than letting them walk for free when they have no chance to compete with the wages sheikh clubs like ManCity would offer.

Same will likely happen with Bellingham.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#504 » by wco81 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:26 pm

If Haaling could have carried Dortmund to Bundasliga and UCL titles, maybe they see huge increase in revenues, like more jersey sales, more TV money.

But they probably don't have the great team that City has, because those players can serve Haaling so much more times in the box.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#505 » by Baphomet » Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:56 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:Looks like Mbappe was sold a dream by the PSG board and Luis Campos has also figured that out. Both want to leave as soon as, Messi is likely to be back in Barca next season as well. It’s not looking good for them


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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#506 » by Foye » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:29 am

wco81 wrote:If Haaling could have carried Dortmund to Bundasliga and UCL titles, maybe they see huge increase in revenues, like more jersey sales, more TV money.

But they probably don't have the great team that City has, because those players can serve Haaling so much more times in the box.


The maximum tv money paid out in the Bundesliga is currently 95 mil. € = 92 mil. USD - to Bayern.
Dortmund is getting 82 mil. € = 80 mil. USD already.
So the max increase in Bundesliga tv revenue Dortmund could get (by performing better than Bayern for a couple years in a row) is 12 mil. USD.
I am sure every Dortmund fan who wanted a Haaland jersey already bought it.
They could've had some more success in UCL - which would bring more international tv money and revenue from games, yes - but can you plan for it? No. Never know. Haaland might be injured in crucial parts of the season or be out of shape or whatever.

As a comparison: I don't know the exact numbers for the EPL currently. But a newly promoted club like Nottingham Forest instantly has more domestic tv money available than the highest paid Bundesliga club, Bayern. City as the leagues leader probably has twice as much as Bayern.

Haaland alone is said to make 45 mil. pound = 50 mil. USD per year at City. (At least that's what dailymail is reporting)
Dortmund's highest paid player is said to earn 18 mil. € =17.5 mil. USD per year.

I hope this outlines why Dortmund is not able to keep a player like Haaland past his first contract.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#507 » by LDNMagic90 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:22 am

I think with the Mbappe situation it’s on both the club and the player. What were PSG thinking giving anyone a contract like that, plus the power Mbappe has of course if things don’t go his way he’s going to throw his toys out the pram.

Also I don’t necessarily feel sorry for Mbappe, I think for me it’s a told you so moment. I’ve pretty much advocated (not like my opinion matters) for him to go Real Madrid or come to the prem.He made it this whole thing about him wanting to follow his idol(Ronaldo), then suddenly you want to stay in PSG. I mean I get why you would, you are being offered money that you may never see in your life in one go and you’re young, it’s almost a no brainer.

Anyway I’m here for this fall out, Galtier possibly leaving as well makes this really interesting. I would imagine Liverpool would be monitoring that situation as Galtier is on the cusp of being an elite coach if he’s not already classed as one.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#508 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:58 pm

Interesting numbers.

Germany isn't poor but for whatever reason, UK has a more lucrative TV market.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#509 » by HIF » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:47 pm

wco81 wrote:Or maybe because PSG hasn't been able to win the UCL that he wants to go to a place like Real?

It's too bad that the best players gravitate to clubs which are already loaded. It's kind of like big NBA free agents always trying to sign with the Lakers, but there's no salary cap in futbol so this trend won't stop.

And second tier clubs don't mind losing a superstar like Haaland because they can make tens of millions or more. A team like Dortmund can't increase revenues from having a player like Haaland because it's a smaller city so they sell these great players?

But PSG absolutely should have resources to keep superstar players, though maybe Paris isn't as into football as the UK, Italy, Spain.


What? Do you know so little about European and world football?

You are aware that France has the best team in the world over the last 25 years don't you?
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#510 » by HIF » Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:50 pm

wco81 wrote:Interesting numbers.

Germany isn't poor but for whatever reason, UK has a more lucrative TV market.


uhm. I wonder why?
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#511 » by wco81 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:15 pm

France has a huge talent development pipeline.

They won 2 WC and 1 Euro in the last 25 years, made the final in one additional WC and Euro.

Germany won 1 WC and 1 Euro, made a final in one other WC.

Spain won 1 WC and 2 Euro.

Italy won 1 WC and 1 Euro, made 2 Euro finals in addition.


But in club football, not clear France has been much more than a talent development league for other leagues. PSG is going to have to win a couple of UCLs to be regarded in the same level as the top EPL, Bayern and Barca/Madrid's level.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#512 » by The_Brecht » Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:46 pm

So, the whole Mbappé story is actually getting too stupid.
Who would've thought that giving a young person essentially all the power in a club, was going to be a bad idea.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#513 » by SgtPepper » Tue Nov 1, 2022 5:05 pm

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wco81 wrote:Forbes just said Mbappe was the highest-paid futbol player.

Would Real pay him even more? You'd think he'd get more endorsements playing in Paris than in Madrid, given he's the biggest French footballer star?


He'll get more money somewhere. Sadly that is how "football" is.

No, it's probably not. Mbappe currently makes more money than peak Ronaldo wages at Madrid + peak Messi wages at Barca combined after both won multiple BDO, champions leagues, scored 100s of goals despite Mbappe not matching either on any category. It's indicative of huge financial parity of psg over European rivals. In a real sense PSG can poach all of Europe's best players without those rivals having competitive spend power to match, and free transfers of guys like Messi & Donnarumma who are arguably the best talents of their positions hints as much.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#514 » by Foye » Wed Nov 2, 2022 9:42 am

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wco81 wrote:Forbes just said Mbappe was the highest-paid futbol player.

Would Real pay him even more? You'd think he'd get more endorsements playing in Paris than in Madrid, given he's the biggest French footballer star?


He'll get more money somewhere. Sadly that is how "football" is.

No, it's probably not. Mbappe currently makes more money than peak Ronaldo wages at Madrid + peak Messi wages at Barca combined after both won multiple BDO, champions leagues, scored 100s of goals despite Mbappe not matching either on any category. It's indicative of huge financial parity of psg over European rivals. In a real sense PSG can poach all of Europe's best players without those rivals having competitive spend power to match, and free transfers of guys like Messi & Donnarumma who are arguably the best talents of their positions hints as much.


This is exactly like dating girls.
If you can only attract girls with materialistic things - you are going to end up with a gold digger.
Paris has a lot of gold diggers on their roster.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#515 » by wco81 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:43 pm

So which club is getting Bellingham?

City with the bottomless wallet?
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#516 » by Baphomet » Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:11 pm

wco81 wrote:So which club is getting Bellingham?

City with the bottomless wallet?


I hope he stays at Dortmund and keeps developing for now.

But if I had to guess, I think he would be a good fit at Liverpool and would be a nice coup for the new owners, if they have new owners by then, to get the fans onside.
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#517 » by G R E Y » Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:11 pm

Oh wow!

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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#518 » by Baphomet » Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:25 pm

G R E Y wrote:Oh wow!

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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#519 » by HIF » Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:56 pm

G R E Y wrote:Oh wow!

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It's like Ronaldo going to Saudi Arabia.

I guess they may as well take the money and **** their memory
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Re: Transfer Thread 2022/23 

Post#520 » by Shaazzam » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:45 pm

Dude, he's 35 and he's pretty much done it all. Let him make some cash and help elevate the game in a massive market.
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