Lakers Trade IDEAS

[stan francisco]

We should gauge the Bulls interest in moving off DeRozan and Vucevic. They may be willing to think about tearing it down.

Westbrook + Christie + 2 unprotected 1sts + a pick swap for DeRozan and Vuc.

I honestly think this is the reason why the Lakers are being patient with deals. I've been eyeing up Chicago as a blow it up team since the start of the season. They're below .500 and their schedule in the next 2-3 weeks is absolutely brutal. If they don't come out of that within close range of .500, they have to think about blowing it up. We have the ability to take contracts off their hands with the Westbrook contract.

I would also do everything imaginable to get Caruso back. The Lakers front office has to know they f**ed that up. Getting Caruso back would really help with fan engagement and correcting a clear mistake they made 2 seasons ago.

So here's some deals I'd do with Chicago:

A) Do they really want the next 5 years of Zach Lavine? Any buyers remorse?
B) Any buyers remorse on Lonzo?

We'd have the ability to take on both of those deals. So let's start with that.

LaVine, Ball, Caruso for Westbrook, Nunn, Gabriel, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
DeRozan, Vucevic for Westbrook, Christie, 2 1st rounders unprotected
LaVine, Vucevic for Westbrook, Nunn, 2 1st rounders

They would have the ability to clear their cap sheet pretty quickly in any sort of a trade with us if they're having any sort of remorse with LaVine, Ball or just want to send DeRozan home.

Good post.

DeRozan is overpaid for the dirty work type of player he is but would be perfect next to AD and LBJ defensively. So would Vucević. I’d definitely want Caruso back in a CHI deal, but no LaVine for me.

Haven’t checked the math but DeRozan for Russell’s expiring would obviously be a great steal for us and would give them cap relief.

I know that it’s a stretch but Vucevic and Caruso for Beverly, Pippen, Gabriel, Ryan, Christie, D Jones and picks …? We’d be a contender. They’d be free from DeRozan and Vucevic, can rebuild.

PG: Caruso, Schroeder, Nunn
SG: DeRozan, Walker, Reaves
SF: LBJ, Reaves, JTA
PF: AD, Brown Jr, Swider
CTR: Vucevic, Bryant, Huff

[One Love]

Laker FANS getting 3 starters for a BAG of CHIPS... Come on guys... Be realistic...

[Pythagoras]

Laker FANS getting 3 starters for a BAG of CHIPS... Come on guys... Be realistic...

Two unprotected picks, AND salary relief, is NOT a bag of chips.

[zimpy27]

Lakers just waived Ryan..

I hope they pick up Nwaba.

LA native, SF, decent rebounder for size..

[loveshaq786]

Laker FANS getting 3 starters for a BAG of CHIPS... Come on guys... Be realistic...

Two unprotected picks, AND salary relief, is NOT a bag of chips.

Westbrook, Juan, Beverly and a pick ( or two picks).... for Caruso. vucevic and derozan... is perfect

[MAMBAEMD]

Lakers just waived Ryan..

I hope they pick up Nwaba.

LA native, SF, decent rebounder for size..

This is an odd move. Ryan didn’t play much but he is a shooter and a definite threat and need for this team.

They opened up a roster spot for a reason and I hope they have a shooter in mind as replacement

[SlimShady83]

I recon when some players are ready to be traded DEC 15th there might be a trade straight after?

[zuju]

Some thoughts. If we keep Westbrook this season, and resign him with full MLE next season. How will it affect the Lakers's spending power next offseason ? MLE can be used after the cap space is utilized ?

If we still have the cap space to operate while retaining Westbrook to lead the second unit with MLE, we can absorb some bigger contracts or outright sign free agents we want. This season, we have Schroder and Westbrook for the PG position is more than enough.

That said, trading Pat Bev and Nunn seems to be a way to go to balance out the rotation this season. Combining those 2, we can trade for turner or Johnathan Issac, who I like a lot. And then, there are still a roster spot for a bigger wing player e.g. Josh Jackson or Miles Bridges, preferably with a decent shooting ability. What we lost will be the 3 pt shooting ability, defense and spirit from Pat Bev.

By doing so, the team formation is much more balanced, deep and flexible.

[zimpy27]

Some thoughts. If we keep Westbrook this season, and resign him with full MLE next season. How will it affect the Lakers's spending power next offseason ? MLE can be used after the cap space is utilized ?

If we still have the cap space to operate while retaining Westbrook to lead the second unit with MLE, we can absorb some bigger contracts or outright sign free agents we want. This season, we have Schroder and Westbrook for the PG position is more than enough.

That said, trading Pat Bev and Nunn seems to be a way to go to balance out the rotation this season. Combining those 2, we can trade for turner or Johnathan Issac, who I like a lot. And then, there are still a roster spot for a bigger wing player e.g. Josh Jackson or Miles Bridges, preferably with a decent shooting ability. What we lost will be the 3 pt shooting ability, defense and spirit from Pat Bev.

By doing so, the team formation is much more balanced, deep and flexible.

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

[Pythagoras]

Some thoughts. If we keep Westbrook this season, and resign him with full MLE next season. How will it affect the Lakers's spending power next offseason ? MLE can be used after the cap space is utilized ?

If we still have the cap space to operate while retaining Westbrook to lead the second unit with MLE, we can absorb some bigger contracts or outright sign free agents we want. This season, we have Schroder and Westbrook for the PG position is more than enough.

That said, trading Pat Bev and Nunn seems to be a way to go to balance out the rotation this season. Combining those 2, we can trade for turner or Johnathan Issac, who I like a lot. And then, there are still a roster spot for a bigger wing player e.g. Josh Jackson or Miles Bridges, preferably with a decent shooting ability. What we lost will be the 3 pt shooting ability, defense and spirit from Pat Bev.

By doing so, the team formation is much more balanced, deep and flexible.

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

That would essentially be running it back… Unless the Lakers win it all, there’s no reason to run it back with this squad.

Walker and Reaves are high priorities to re-sign.

Bryant is another guy I’d like to keep but is less of a priority than the other two.

Everybody else is vet min level fodder.

[zimpy27]

Some thoughts. If we keep Westbrook this season, and resign him with full MLE next season. How will it affect the Lakers's spending power next offseason ? MLE can be used after the cap space is utilized ?

If we still have the cap space to operate while retaining Westbrook to lead the second unit with MLE, we can absorb some bigger contracts or outright sign free agents we want. This season, we have Schroder and Westbrook for the PG position is more than enough.

That said, trading Pat Bev and Nunn seems to be a way to go to balance out the rotation this season. Combining those 2, we can trade for turner or Johnathan Issac, who I like a lot. And then, there are still a roster spot for a bigger wing player e.g. Josh Jackson or Miles Bridges, preferably with a decent shooting ability. What we lost will be the 3 pt shooting ability, defense and spirit from Pat Bev.

By doing so, the team formation is much more balanced, deep and flexible.

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

That would essentially be running it back… Unless the Lakers win it all, there’s no reason to run it back with this squad.

Walker and Reaves are high priorities to re-sign.

Bryant is another guy I’d like to keep but is less of a priority than the other two.

Everybody else is vet min level fodder.

It would be running it back and I think that's why Bev+Nunn get traded for GTJ or Turner now. Lakers would re-sign them too while staying above cap.

Schroeder(4m), Reaves(8m), LeBron(47m), Davis(41m), Turner(28m)
Westbrook(10m), Lonnie(8m), Christie(2m), Gabriel(4m), Bryant(7m)

That is a contender in my eyes next season.

[Pythagoras]

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

That would essentially be running it back… Unless the Lakers win it all, there’s no reason to run it back with this squad.

Walker and Reaves are high priorities to re-sign.

Bryant is another guy I’d like to keep but is less of a priority than the other two.

Everybody else is vet min level fodder.

It would be running it back and I think that's why Bev+Nunn get traded for GTJ or Turner now. Lakers would re-sign them too while staying above cap.

Schroeder, Reaves, LeBron, Davis, Turner
Westbrook, Lonnie, Christie, Gabriel, Bryant

That is a contender in my eyes next season.

I can roll with that. With the way AD is playing at the 5 this year though I think the Lakers ought to target GTJ (or a similar player) over Turner.

[zimpy27]

That would essentially be running it back… Unless the Lakers win it all, there’s no reason to run it back with this squad.

Walker and Reaves are high priorities to re-sign.

Bryant is another guy I’d like to keep but is less of a priority than the other two.

Everybody else is vet min level fodder.

It would be running it back and I think that's why Bev+Nunn get traded for GTJ or Turner now. Lakers would re-sign them too while staying above cap.

Schroeder, Reaves, LeBron, Davis, Turner
Westbrook, Lonnie, Christie, Gabriel, Bryant

That is a contender in my eyes next season.

I can roll with that. With the way AD is playing at the 5 this year though I think the Lakers ought to target GTJ (or a similar player) over Turner.

Yeah I agree with the position choice being ideally a wing but Turner has just been an absolute beast and GTJ has struggled.. I honestly don't know which way to go so it probably comes down to price to get either.

[wco81]

WB would re-sign for MLE?

[hazy_01]

I believe Pat Bev+Filler (ex: Jones or JTA) is enough salary to match Turner's contract. If possible I would do that and then use Nunn's salary + draft pick(s) for a wing

[KuzControl]

I believe Pat Bev+Filler (ex: Jones or JTA) is enough salary to match Turner's contract. If possible I would do that and then use Nunn's salary + draft pick(s) for a wing

Think there's more gettable wings that make around PatBev's salary than those that make around Nunn's salary

I like the idea of a PJ + Oubre for Nunn + Bev + 1st + 2nd(s) deal. Both PJ and Oubre have their flaws, but they also bring size, scoring, shooting (although Oubre would need to improve in this area) and solid enough defense

[zuju]

Some thoughts. If we keep Westbrook this season, and resign him with full MLE next season. How will it affect the Lakers's spending power next offseason ? MLE can be used after the cap space is utilized ?

If we still have the cap space to operate while retaining Westbrook to lead the second unit with MLE, we can absorb some bigger contracts or outright sign free agents we want. This season, we have Schroder and Westbrook for the PG position is more than enough.

That said, trading Pat Bev and Nunn seems to be a way to go to balance out the rotation this season. Combining those 2, we can trade for turner or Johnathan Issac, who I like a lot. And then, there are still a roster spot for a bigger wing player e.g. Josh Jackson or Miles Bridges, preferably with a decent shooting ability. What we lost will be the 3 pt shooting ability, defense and spirit from Pat Bev.

By doing so, the team formation is much more balanced, deep and flexible.

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

Before signing anyone, the Lakers is estimated to have around 35M in cap space available to sign free agents. Can the Lakers sign someone first, e.g. Turner for say 25-28M, and then sign WB, Reaves, Gabriel etc over the cap and use the MLE and BAE on Schroder / Loonie / Bryant / Brown ?

This team just need some more balancing and is good to play. Therefore, I reckon trading Pat Bev and Nunn is the best way to achieve it at the moment. If we can sign Turner for 28M, Schroder, Loonie, Bryant and Brown are nice role players. we can use the rest of 7M left in the cap space to sign Schroder or Brown, Use the MLE on Loonie and BAE on Bryant. We can resign Stanley Johnson to add wing depth and defense as well.

Is it what you mean or is it possible?

Side note: If we trade for Johnathan Issac or GTJ or Cam Reddish or PJ Washington etc who have longer contract, we have more cap space to operate than resigning Turner. Also, I will keep a close eye on Miles Bridges and Josh Jackson to potentially deepen the Wing position.

Thanks for answering and rectifying my question and thoughts.

[zimpy27]

Some thoughts. If we keep Westbrook this season, and resign him with full MLE next season. How will it affect the Lakers's spending power next offseason ? MLE can be used after the cap space is utilized ?

If we still have the cap space to operate while retaining Westbrook to lead the second unit with MLE, we can absorb some bigger contracts or outright sign free agents we want. This season, we have Schroder and Westbrook for the PG position is more than enough.

That said, trading Pat Bev and Nunn seems to be a way to go to balance out the rotation this season. Combining those 2, we can trade for turner or Johnathan Issac, who I like a lot. And then, there are still a roster spot for a bigger wing player e.g. Josh Jackson or Miles Bridges, preferably with a decent shooting ability. What we lost will be the 3 pt shooting ability, defense and spirit from Pat Bev.

By doing so, the team formation is much more balanced, deep and flexible.

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

Before signing anyone, the Lakers is estimated to have around 35M in cap space available to sign free agents. Can the Lakers sign someone first, e.g. Turner for say 25-28M, and then sign WB, Reaves, Gabriel etc over the cap and use the MLE and BAE on Schroder / Loonie / Bryant / Brown ?

This team just need some more balancing and is good to play. Therefore, I reckon trading Pat Bev and Nunn is the best way to achieve it at the moment. If we can sign Turner for 28M, Schroder, Loonie, Bryant and Brown are nice role players. we can use the rest of 7M left in the cap space to sign Schroder or Brown, Use the MLE on Loonie and BAE on Bryant. We can resign Stanley Johnson to add wing depth and defense as well.

Is it what you mean or is it possible?

Side note: If we trade for Johnathan Issac or GTJ or Cam Reddish or PJ Washington etc who have longer contract, we have more cap space to operate than resigning Turner. Also, I will keep a close eye on Miles Bridges and Josh Jackson to potentially deepen the Wing position.

Thanks for answering and rectifying my question and thoughts.

No they can't, they have to waive rights to Westbrook but they can keep Reaves, Gabriel, Lonnie rights..

Lonnie actually can be re-signed without MLE, BAE. Lakers can keep him unlike Monk because non-bird rights means you can give 120% of final year salary. Lonnie is earning $6.4m and will be able to sign with Lakers for $36m/4

[zuju]

Westbrook, Reaves, Gabriel, Nunn, Beverley can all be re-signed above vet min level without using MLE.
Schroder, Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, JTA all need an MLE/BAE/Room to be used to sign them for more than vet min.

Every team gets a Room exception if they operate under cap (sign someone to capspace) or they get an MLE if they stay over the salary cap line. If you use the full $11m MLE or $4m BAE then you can't go over the hardcap (about $7m past the luxury tax line).

I think Lakers likely re-sign Russ, Reaves, Gabriel and stay above salary cap. Then they probably use the $11m MLE and $4m BAE to retain 2-3 of Lonnie, Bryant, Brown, Schroeder.

Before signing anyone, the Lakers is estimated to have around 35M in cap space available to sign free agents. Can the Lakers sign someone first, e.g. Turner for say 25-28M, and then sign WB, Reaves, Gabriel etc over the cap and use the MLE and BAE on Schroder / Loonie / Bryant / Brown ?

This team just need some more balancing and is good to play. Therefore, I reckon trading Pat Bev and Nunn is the best way to achieve it at the moment. If we can sign Turner for 28M, Schroder, Loonie, Bryant and Brown are nice role players. we can use the rest of 7M left in the cap space to sign Schroder or Brown, Use the MLE on Loonie and BAE on Bryant. We can resign Stanley Johnson to add wing depth and defense as well.

Is it what you mean or is it possible?

Side note: If we trade for Johnathan Issac or GTJ or Cam Reddish or PJ Washington etc who have longer contract, we have more cap space to operate than resigning Turner. Also, I will keep a close eye on Miles Bridges and Josh Jackson to potentially deepen the Wing position.

Thanks for answering and rectifying my question and thoughts.

No they can't, they have to waive rights to Westbrook but they can keep Reaves, Gabriel, Lonnie rights..

Lonnie actually can be re-signed without MLE, BAE. Lakers can keep him unlike Monk because non-bird rights means you can give 120% of final year salary. Lonnie is earning $6.4m and will be able to sign with Lakers for $36m/4

That means if Pat Bev and Nunn are not in the long term plan, we better trade them this season to balance the roster and get one or a few useful players who can be retained past this season if we are to sign Westbrook back.

[zimpy27]

Before signing anyone, the Lakers is estimated to have around 35M in cap space available to sign free agents. Can the Lakers sign someone first, e.g. Turner for say 25-28M, and then sign WB, Reaves, Gabriel etc over the cap and use the MLE and BAE on Schroder / Loonie / Bryant / Brown ?

This team just need some more balancing and is good to play. Therefore, I reckon trading Pat Bev and Nunn is the best way to achieve it at the moment. If we can sign Turner for 28M, Schroder, Loonie, Bryant and Brown are nice role players. we can use the rest of 7M left in the cap space to sign Schroder or Brown, Use the MLE on Loonie and BAE on Bryant. We can resign Stanley Johnson to add wing depth and defense as well.

Is it what you mean or is it possible?

Side note: If we trade for Johnathan Issac or GTJ or Cam Reddish or PJ Washington etc who have longer contract, we have more cap space to operate than resigning Turner. Also, I will keep a close eye on Miles Bridges and Josh Jackson to potentially deepen the Wing position.

Thanks for answering and rectifying my question and thoughts.

No they can't, they have to waive rights to Westbrook but they can keep Reaves, Gabriel, Lonnie rights..

Lonnie actually can be re-signed without MLE, BAE. Lakers can keep him unlike Monk because non-bird rights means you can give 120% of final year salary. Lonnie is earning $6.4m and will be able to sign with Lakers for $36m/4

That means if Pat Bev and Nunn are not in the long term plan, we better trade them this season to balance the roster and get one or a few useful players who can be retained past this season if we are to sign Westbrook back.

No I meant that in order for Lakers to have capspace they will have to waive every major caphold (Reaves and Gabriel have small capholds).

I think it's better that Lakers don't have capspace next season. They should stay above cap and try to add a piece through trade now.