Around The League: 2021-2022 Season 2.0

[76ciology]

Discussion about his true value aside, the thought of a Melton/Murray defensive guard duo does sound really fun.

Fun, yes.

Cheaper alternatives:
Jevon Carter
Alex Caruso

Jevon Carter. Cheaper and his +/- has been great even with Giannis.

[the_process]

I feel confident that the Sixers could have traded Simmons and Harris for Barnes, Hield, Haliburton, and a couple other filler contracts, maybe even a 1st.

Instead, Morey on the Ricky basically said without saying that he wanted Fox and Haliburton plus picks for Simmons. Which can only be interpreted as he was waiting for Harden to come free.

Ahab and Moby Dick.

[Negrodamus]

Discussion about his true value aside, the thought of a Melton/Murray defensive guard duo does sound really fun.

Fun, yes.

Cheaper alternatives:
Jevon Carter
Alex Caruso

Jevon Carter. Cheaper and his +/- has been great even with Giannis.

I think you're hard correcting on your take of Murray. He's not a journeyman, but he's not a stud. He's a top 5 defensive player with some offensive chops. I don't think anyone has really gone beyond that take.

[SixthStreet]

RJ Barrett after receiving a 4-year, $120M extension this off-season:

18.4 PPG
5.4 RPG
3.0 APG
40.0 FG%
27.4 3PT%

Another scam.

I feel like guys that can create their own shot and sometimes make crazy ones get overvalued, with the belief that that specific skill can be honed and cultivated with eyes on efficiency and stardom.

But mostly, and I mean at least 95% of the time, they are just the next Alec Burks.

[Negrodamus]

RJ Barrett after receiving a 4-year, $120M extension this off-season:

18.4 PPG
5.4 RPG
3.0 APG
40.0 FG%
27.4 3PT%

Another scam.

I feel like guys that can create their own shot and sometimes make crazy ones get overvalued, with the belief that that specific skill can be honed and cultivated with eyes on efficiency and stardom.

But mostly, and I mean at least 95% of the time, they are just the next Alec Burks.

66% FT shooting at Duke. The signs are looking teams in the face if they're willing to pay attention. He wasn't even a good three point shooter on volume (30%)

[blargh]

Can we name a more overrated player than Evan Mobley?

Clearly Mobley reads the RealGM Sixers board.

[Jailblazers7]

Wendell Moore had a nice game tonight in a surprise appearance in the starting lineup. Held up very well tonight guarding Ja Morant and was solid offensively as a connector.

[76ciology]

RJ Barrett after receiving a 4-year, $120M extension this off-season:

18.4 PPG
5.4 RPG
3.0 APG
40.0 FG%
27.4 3PT%

Another scam.

I feel like guys that can create their own shot and sometimes make crazy ones get overvalued, with the belief that that specific skill can be honed and cultivated with eyes on efficiency and stardom.

But mostly, and I mean at least 95% of the time, they are just the next Alec Burks.

Depends on shot volume and ISO points per possession.

Guys like Tobias, would choose their spots to maintain good points per possession

Guys like Barrett, dont choose their spots and just wreck their points per possession

This is why guys like Embiid, Harden, Durant and Luka are valued because they have both volume and points per possession

The mistake i find most teams make is they like to let these type of guys run their offense, which prevents you to hunt for easy shots that lead to not always having good team offense.

Most of these guys have the Melo/Mamba mentality, they can’t distinguish when to take tough shots or when to pass the ball. Look at how well our team is playing when Biid starts to share the ball.

The way to run it IMO is how the suns do it. Let CP3 hunt you easy baskets and if its denied then you dump it to Booker for ISO. Or how the Spurs do it where they run their dribble drive then if its denied then they dump it to Duncan. The spurs model is how I want our team to run their offense

[76ciology]

Read on Twitter

[Kobblehead]

Read on Twitter

Twitter dudes be reading our board for content. I just mentioned this a handful of posts ago.

[76ciology]

Read on Twitter

Twitter dudes be reading our board for content. I just mentioned this a handful of posts ago.

Didnt notice it until you mentioned it here

[Jailblazers7]

I really hope the Pelicans can get healthy by playoff time. I want to see their full strength lineup in a legit playoff series. Healthy Zion & Trey Murphy taking a leap have made this team a young, exciting contender.

[phillynative]

Wendell Moore had a nice game tonight in a surprise appearance in the starting lineup. Held up very well tonight guarding Ja Morant and was solid offensively as a connector.

Really wish we could of grabbed one of the wings from this draft.

[DCasey91]

RJ Barrett after receiving a 4-year, $120M extension this off-season:

18.4 PPG
5.4 RPG
3.0 APG
40.0 FG%
27.4 3PT%

Another scam.

I feel like guys that can create their own shot and sometimes make crazy ones get overvalued, with the belief that that specific skill can be honed and cultivated with eyes on efficiency and stardom.

But mostly, and I mean at least 95% of the time, they are just the next Alec Burks.

Depends on shot volume and ISO points per possession.

Guys like Tobias, would choose their spots to maintain good points per possession

Guys like Barrett, dont choose their spots and just wreck their points per possession

This is why guys like Embiid, Harden, Durant and Luka are valued because they have both volume and points per possession

The mistake i find most teams make is they like to let these type of guys run their offense, which prevents you to hunt for easy shots that lead to not always having good team offense.

Most of these guys have the Melo/Mamba mentality, they can’t distinguish when to take tough shots or when to pass the ball. Look at how well our team is playing when Biid starts to share the ball.

The way to run it IMO is how the suns do it. Let CP3 hunt you easy baskets and if its denied then you dump it to Booker for ISO. Or how the Spurs do it where they run their dribble drive then if its denied then they dump it to Duncan. The spurs model is how I want our team to run their offense

Garland is the next in line. Great shot selection and great guard play. Very rare and difficult to find in this day and age can score 25+ and not be a ball hog and dish out quality assists all day long.

He’s the Tony Parker but a way better range shooter of this generation imo. Fwiw Parker always ranked at the top at finishing around the rim for his size crazy shiftiness to his game.

76ciology your a good dude but please let go of the Spurs idea. Not even discussing the FO the gap between Duncan and Embiid as the vocal point is pretty damn large. Duncan had perfect fundamentals on both sides of the ball.

[DCasey91]

I really hope the Pelicans can get healthy by playoff time. I want to see their full strength lineup in a legit playoff series. Healthy Zion & Trey Murphy taking a leap have made this team a young, exciting contender.

Murphy 3 was one of my favs pre draft, goddamn I wish we had one quality young wing on our list just one lol.

[Mik317]

Knicks were damned if they do and damned if they don't with RJ IMO. They were getting clowned for never resigning their first round picks since Charlie Ward lol. They bet on RJ continuing to improve and so far it has not paid off. RJ seems like a hard worker who actually likes basketball too so while I personally never thought he was that guy....i could see how you could bet on the kid over logic IMO.

[blargh]

Hali's advanced metrics are always great. Can anyone explain why his plus minus on/off metrics have been so bad in his career?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/halibty01.html

Probably just a anomaly because metrics are dumb.

I mean, at least for this season, the answer appears to be he’s getting outplayed by TJ McConnell. . Lineups with TJ and no Haliburton are heavily positive.

[76ciology]

I feel like guys that can create their own shot and sometimes make crazy ones get overvalued, with the belief that that specific skill can be honed and cultivated with eyes on efficiency and stardom.

But mostly, and I mean at least 95% of the time, they are just the next Alec Burks.

Depends on shot volume and ISO points per possession.

Guys like Tobias, would choose their spots to maintain good points per possession

Guys like Barrett, dont choose their spots and just wreck their points per possession

This is why guys like Embiid, Harden, Durant and Luka are valued because they have both volume and points per possession

The mistake i find most teams make is they like to let these type of guys run their offense, which prevents you to hunt for easy shots that lead to not always having good team offense.

Most of these guys have the Melo/Mamba mentality, they can’t distinguish when to take tough shots or when to pass the ball. Look at how well our team is playing when Biid starts to share the ball.

The way to run it IMO is how the suns do it. Let CP3 hunt you easy baskets and if its denied then you dump it to Booker for ISO. Or how the Spurs do it where they run their dribble drive then if its denied then they dump it to Duncan. The spurs model is how I want our team to run their offense

Garland is the next in line. Great shot selection and great guard play. Very rare and difficult to find in this day and age can score 25+ and not be a ball hog and dish out quality assists all day long.

He’s the Tony Parker but a way better range shooter of this generation imo. Fwiw Parker always ranked at the top at finishing around the rim for his size crazy shiftiness to his game.

76ciology your a good dude but please let go of the Spurs idea. Not even discussing the FO the gap between Duncan and Embiid as the vocal point is pretty damn large. Duncan had perfect fundamentals on both sides of the ball.

Thanks for the kind words

I dont know if i want winning or if i just want to watch beautiful basketball

The way we play on offense is boring. Heavy on iso and the ball movement is bad. Stats dont show it but the body language with the other scorers who wont get usage in the offense also is bad when this happens thats why our defense and rebounding suffered.

Another thing is our guys are short. You can’t create great looks without incorporating ball movement and player movement (which creates good to great looks).

Once our go to guy collapses the defense and kick if out to the shooter, long defenders can easily cover the gap to close out on our shooters. Thats why sometimes our offense looks clunky.

Offense comes easy in today’s basketball. Why make it hard with a lot of iso? HUNT EASY BASKETS FIRST. ISO is very important and has its place in the game but its not always in every place of the game

[Mik317]

a good chunk of our possessions don't even touch the paint. Thats a part of it. Its why the Celtics stuggled in the finals a bit becvause Tatum was banged up and was settling and Brown occasionally has Nerlens Noel handle.

Again I think GS fooled everyone into thinking, its just about chucking 3s when people don't realize the threat of said 3 opens up the lane for back cuts, actual drives, and such. I am tired of us getting owned on simple PNR penetration from tiny guards who can either pass for an open 3, take the floater, or lob it up. Yes Biid isn't a roller and we don't really want him to be a lob guy with his clumsy ass but still. Part of this fun run beyond playing bad or mid teams, is that Shake somehow figured out a way to get his negative vert ass to the rim often. Now part of that could be not having a behemoth sitting in the paint ( either Biid or Biid's man who would rather him take the 3 anyway) but still.

Been the case for years but this team simply doesn't do basic ass NBA **** lol Finally running more pick and rolls but Maxey lacks the bag; Harden and Shake lack the pop to get all the way to the rim always, and Biid prefers to pop and then take his time negating any advantage the play gives you (been more decisive lately but still). And our shooters sans Niang as still a bit too gun shy. Getting there but still needs more juice from the wings in particular (this is why when Niang is on fire we are tough to beat but thats too much to ask of Niang to always do it IMO). And while Doc has been better..I don't think he's the strategist to actually scheme things up like we need either.

[Jailblazers7]

Cavs were pressing our perimeter players to deny the DHO actions we love to run with Embiid. We had back cuts open all game but didn’t go to it consistently enough to make them adjust. It’s very frustrating to watch Embiid hit that pass only sometimes because he prefers to hold the ball too long.

Warriors have the ability to attack the paint all game without even dribbling because of their off ball movement. We could do the same in theory with Embiid playing out of the high post.