Miami Heat 22-23 Regular Season Thread 2.0

[ShulaDon92]

We need players on the court. Too many ghosts.

Wheres Yurtseven

Out 3 months minimum, potentially the whole season

We don't have the luxury to wait. Im expecting midseason moves for sure. Thongs will unclog.

[Flash4thewin]

Lowry/Dipo
Herro/Strus
Jimmy/Martin
Bam/Brissett or G Williams if possible?
Turner/Jovic

This team competes for a championship

How do we make that happen? Also remember Turner is a free agent and has said he wants the money, so expect to pay him at least 25 mil a year, 30 mil might be a more realistic number.

[Rapaz]

Need some good luck charms back in the game threads. #ThongsWillUnclog

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Lowry/Dipo
Herro/Strus
Jimmy/Martin
Bam/Brissett or G Williams if possible?
Turner/Jovic

This team competes for a championship

How do we make that happen? Also remember Turner is a free agent and has said he wants the money, so expect to pay him at least 25 mil a year, 30 mil might be a more realistic number.

Picks and salary, I’ll take my chances on turner. He’s not getting that in the open market

[ShulaDon92]

Lowry/Dipo
Herro/Strus
Jimmy/Martin
Bam/Brissett or G Williams if possible?
Turner/Jovic

This team competes for a championship

How do we make that happen? Also remember Turner is a free agent and has said he wants the money, so expect to pay him at least 25 mil a year, 30 mil might be a more realistic number.

He can try out for a contract with us or another team. Why do we HAVE to pay him again? If we win a title thats a contract lock for him from someone.

[ShulaDon92]

Im not sure Pacers want our guys and those contracts, thats a pipe dream. They want to shed tracts.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Im not sure Pacers want our guys and those contracts, thats a pipe dream. They want to shed tracts.

They’ve been trying to trade Buddy and Turner all season in return for 1sts. They want to rebuild

[Flash4thewin]

Lowry/Dipo
Herro/Strus
Jimmy/Martin
Bam/Brissett or G Williams if possible?
Turner/Jovic

This team competes for a championship

How do we make that happen? Also remember Turner is a free agent and has said he wants the money, so expect to pay him at least 25 mil a year, 30 mil might be a more realistic number.

Picks and salary, I’ll take my chances on turner. He’s not getting that in the open market

So I take it you mean Duncan

The cap is going up and multiple teams will have cap space, someone always over pays. We had people here that swore Herro would sign for at the max 20 mil, he signed for 30. Never underestimate players getting paid when multiple teams have cap space.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

How do we make that happen? Also remember Turner is a free agent and has said he wants the money, so expect to pay him at least 25 mil a year, 30 mil might be a more realistic number.

Picks and salary, I’ll take my chances on turner. He’s not getting that in the open market

So I take it you mean Duncan

The cap is going up and multiple teams will have cap space, someone always over pays. We had people here that swore Herro would sign for at the max 20 mil, he signed for 30. Never underestimate players getting paid when multiple teams have cap space.

Tyler got an extension, it had nothing to do with other teams.

I guarantee Turner doesn’t get $25M+ this summer

[Wiltside]

OK, who says no?

Miami trades:

Max Strus
Duncan Robinson
Gabe Vincent
Omer Yurtseven
2022 First Round Pick

Miami receives:

PJ Washington
Mason Plumlee
Patrick Beverley

Charlotte trades:

Terry Rozier
Gordon Hayward
PJ Washington
Mason Plumlee

Charlotte receives:

Russell Westbrook
Duncan Robinson
Gabe Vincent
Omer Yurtseven
Lakers FRP
Miami FRP

Lakers trade:

Russell Westbrook
Patrick Beverley
2024 Unprotected FRP

Lakers receive:

Gordon Hayward
Terry Rozier
Max Strus

HEAT:

PG - Lowry / Beverley / Smith
SG - Herro / Oladipo
SF - Butler / Martin / Cain
PF - Washington / Highsmith / Jovic
C - Adebayo / Plumlee / Dedmon / Haslem

HORNETS:

PG - Ball / Vincent
SG - Robinson / Westbrook
SF - Oubre / Martin
PF - McDaniels / Jones
C - Richards / Yurtseven

LAKERS:

PG - Rozier / Schroder
SG - Strus / Reaves / Nunn
SF - Hayward / Walker
PF - James / Brown Jr / Toscano-Anderson / Gabriel
C - Davis / Bryant / Jones

WHY?

For the Heat, we get an ideal longer term PF to pair with Herro and Adebayo as the bridge to the next generation. Washington provides the floor spacing (1.9 / 5.6 = 35%), build, length and defensive acumen we desire in a switching 4 in Spo's system. Plumlee gives us a capable veteran backup 5 that can also start if injuries hit. Averaging 9pts, 9rebs and 4ast for the Hornets this year, he's a low key good passing big who is also solid defensively and on the glass. Beverley has been pretty awful so far this year, but can provide a spark, be a defensive pest and solidify the bench for us. We do lose our key shooters though, in Strus and Duncan, and a valuable trade piece in our FRP. Also lose Yurt, but unsure of his long term fit here. We'd need to go shopping for a plug and play shooter at some stage.

For the Hornets, they shed salary and commit fully to the rebuild via the Draft. Robinson's deal is long, but sheds salary off the Rozier deal and they acquire valuable picks in the process. Opportunity to give bigger roles to guys like Richards and McDaniels, who have shown a bit this season. Westbrook they can either buy out and save cash, or hold and see if he can provide any form of value for the bench unit going forward.

For the Lakers, last roll of the dice. Top up on talent by bringing in Rozier and Hayward, two guys who lift the teams ceiling. They also get a valuable shooter in Strus who should get plenty of space playing alongside Bron and AD. Lose a pick, but gain a fair bit of talent. Deal may be too Lakers positive on review, perhaps another pick needed to go Charlotte's way.

[ShulaDon92]

OK, who says no?

Miami trades:

Max Strus
Duncan Robinson
Gabe Vincent
Omer Yurtseven
2022 First Round Pick

Miami receives:

PJ Washington
Mason Plumlee
Patrick Beverley

Charlotte trades:

Terry Rozier
Gordon Hayward
PJ Washington
Mason Plumlee

Charlotte receives:

Russell Westbrook
Duncan Robinson
Gabe Vincent
Omer Yurtseven
Lakers FRP
Miami FRP

Lakers trade:

Russell Westbrook
Patrick Beverley
2024 Unprotected FRP

Lakers receive:

Gordon Hayward
Terry Rozier
Max Strus

HEAT:

PG - Lowry / Beverley / Smith
SG - Herro / Oladipo
SF - Butler / Martin / Cain
PF - Washington / Highsmith / Jovic
C - Adebayo / Plumlee / Dedmon / Haslem

HORNETS:

PG - Ball / Vincent
SG - Robinson / Westbrook
SF - Oubre / Martin
PF - McDaniels / Jones
C - Richards / Yurtseven

LAKERS:

PG - Rozier / Schroder
SG - Strus / Reaves / Nunn
SF - Hayward / Walker
PF - James / Brown Jr / Toscano-Anderson / Gabriel
C - Davis / Bryant / Jones

WHY?

For the Heat, we get an ideal longer term PF to pair with Herro and Adebayo as the bridge to the next generation. Washington provides the floor spacing (1.9 / 5.6 = 35%), build, length and defensive acumen we desire in a switching 4 in Spo's system. Plumlee gives us a capable veteran backup 5 that can also start if injuries hit. Averaging 9pts, 9rebs and 4ast for the Hornets this year, he's a low key good passing big who is also solid defensively and on the glass. Beverley has been pretty awful so far this year, but can provide a spark, be a defensive pest and solidify the bench for us. We do lose our key shooters though, in Strus and Duncan, and a valuable trade piece in our FRP. Also lose Yurt, but unsure of his long term fit here. We'd need to go shopping for a plug and play shooter at some stage.

For the Hornets, they shed salary and commit fully to the rebuild via the Draft. Robinson's deal is long, but sheds salary off the Rozier deal and they acquire valuable picks in the process. Opportunity to give bigger roles to guys like Richards and McDaniels, who have shown a bit this season. Westbrook they can either buy out and save cash, or hold and see if he can provide any form of value for the bench unit going forward.

For the Lakers, last roll of the dice. Top up on talent by bringing in Rozier and Hayward, two guys who lift the teams ceiling. They also get a valuable shooter in Strus who should get plenty of space playing alongside Bron and AD. Lose a pick, but gain a fair bit of talent. Deal may be too Lakers positive on review, perhaps another pick needed to go Charlotte's way.

Absolute trash, sorry. Why mortgage the future on another but, seemingly worse, Caleb Martin?

Mason Plumlee?

Sorry, unless you want to tank this is a firm rejection from me.

[3ballbomber]

However Marvin may be a long shot since there are still a few executives that are not sold on going all in on this season by giving up premium draft compensation liek 2 FRP's for a young but unproven PF in Bagley.

The Heat got to keep the main goal the main goal. And that's stacking trade chips to get a legit third star. That means not trading picks for role players.

Additional Role players won't do sh*t this season, if anything may only prolong the eventual series loss. We're still missing that final piece....prolific scorer.

Unless KD or the likes shake loose this trade deadline take this season for what it is....internal development. We are not legit contenders. We'll fight like hell like we do but we will again come up short. We need our picks to chase that whale - i believe we're still all in on that quest. Nothing changes.

[MettaWorldPanda]

The Grant Williams to Miami rumor has to be one of the dumbest concocted rumors out there. I don’t see anyway shape or form that Boston trades Williams to Miami ever. The mere mention of this comes off as polarizing click bait.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Sweet and Sour Sauces for my folks, got some juicy insider news:
Miami has began to reach out to teams in regards to a few candidates for trades to upgrade their PF spot in the last week or so. Its only been inquiring as of late trying to feel out the market, draft compensation is a necessity at this point in anything involving Duncan. As a few of the players of their interest currently in discussion is Marvin Bagley III from the Pistons was thrown into the ring from the Pistons themselves, The pistons are keen on the trade but want FRP's at least 2 of them for Marvin and some additional 2nd rounders. Recently traded from the Kings to the Pistons earlier this year, it seems they are heading a different direction. From the conversations had with the Pistons it sounds like their direction for their rebuild is heading in a new direction per their GM. However Marvin may be a long shot since there are still a few executives that are not sold on going all in on this season by giving up premium draft compensation liek 2 FRP's for a young but unproven PF in Bagley. Miami may need to find a third team that can help as Detroit is not interest in taking back Duncan's salary.

If Detroit is not interested in taking back Duncan’s salary I don’t know who would be. If Detroit wants 2 1st for Bagley in the end I think they are going to have to eat it. Duncan to Detroit has long made sense as Duncan’s former mentor and college coach John Bielein works in the front office. I actually really like the idea of getting Bagley who’s only 23 is 6’11 and can shoot the 3. He’s also on a very reasonable deal at 12.5 per that runs till 2025. This makes absolute sense here as even though we are giving up two 1st we secure a young PF to run with Bam on a great contract and rid ourselves of Duncan’s dead money.

[Pokuokic]

Maxi Kleber would be a elite fit for Miami imo, he's similar size to Bam and has been one of the best defensive bigs for a while. He does not create much on offense and is a okay shooter from 3. He can play the C spot or PF both ends of the floor. He's got zero upside but and is a quality journeymen type.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Miami trades

SF Duncan Robinson
PG Gabe Vincent
2 1st rd picks

to Pistons for

PF Marvin Bagley
PG Cory Joseph

This looks like a straight up fair deal. Bagley’s contract basically runs concurrent with Robinson’s. Detroit gets compensated with the 2 1st. Vincent is tossed in as an added sweetener. Joseph reunites with Lowry. Deal saves us 1 million this year to fill the final roster spot and an additional 7 mil next year. We can bring Dru Smith up and develop him to be the next Gabe behind Joseph.

[3ballbomber]

OK, who says no?

Miami trades:

Max Strus
Duncan Robinson
Gabe Vincent
Omer Yurtseven
2022 First Round Pick

Miami receives:

PJ Washington
Mason Plumlee
Patrick Beverley

Charlotte trades:

Terry Rozier
Gordon Hayward
PJ Washington
Mason Plumlee

Charlotte receives:

Russell Westbrook
Duncan Robinson
Gabe Vincent
Omer Yurtseven
Lakers FRP
Miami FRP

Lakers trade:

Russell Westbrook
Patrick Beverley
2024 Unprotected FRP

Lakers receive:

Gordon Hayward
Terry Rozier
Max Strus

HEAT:

PG - Lowry / Beverley / Smith
SG - Herro / Oladipo
SF - Butler / Martin / Cain
PF - Washington / Highsmith / Jovic
C - Adebayo / Plumlee / Dedmon / Haslem

HORNETS:

PG - Ball / Vincent
SG - Robinson / Westbrook
SF - Oubre / Martin
PF - McDaniels / Jones
C - Richards / Yurtseven

LAKERS:

PG - Rozier / Schroder
SG - Strus / Reaves / Nunn
SF - Hayward / Walker
PF - James / Brown Jr / Toscano-Anderson / Gabriel
C - Davis / Bryant / Jones

Spoiler:

WHY?

For the Heat, we get an ideal longer term PF to pair with Herro and Adebayo as the bridge to the next generation. Washington provides the floor spacing (1.9 / 5.6 = 35%), build, length and defensive acumen we desire in a switching 4 in Spo's system. Plumlee gives us a capable veteran backup 5 that can also start if injuries hit. Averaging 9pts, 9rebs and 4ast for the Hornets this year, he's a low key good passing big who is also solid defensively and on the glass. Beverley has been pretty awful so far this year, but can provide a spark, be a defensive pest and solidify the bench for us. We do lose our key shooters though, in Strus and Duncan, and a valuable trade piece in our FRP. Also lose Yurt, but unsure of his long term fit here. We'd need to go shopping for a plug and play shooter at some stage.

For the Hornets, they shed salary and commit fully to the rebuild via the Draft. Robinson's deal is long, but sheds salary off the Rozier deal and they acquire valuable picks in the process. Opportunity to give bigger roles to guys like Richards and McDaniels, who have shown a bit this season. Westbrook they can either buy out and save cash, or hold and see if he can provide any form of value for the bench unit going forward.

For the Lakers, last roll of the dice. Top up on talent by bringing in Rozier and Hayward, two guys who lift the teams ceiling. They also get a valuable shooter in Strus who should get plenty of space playing alongside Bron and AD. Lose a pick, but gain a fair bit of talent. Deal may be too Lakers positive on review, perhaps another pick needed to go Charlotte's way.

omg, why?, pls.

[BadMofoPimp]

Miami trades

SF Duncan Robinson
PG Gabe Vincent
2 1st rd picks

to Pistons for

PF Marvin Bagley
PG Cory Joseph

This looks like a straight up fair deal. Bagley’s contract basically runs concurrent with Robinson’s. Detroit gets compensated with the 2 1st. Vincent is tossed in as an added sweetener. Joseph reunites with Lowry. Deal saves us 1 million this year to fill the final roster spot and an additional 7 mil next year. We can bring Dru Smith up and develop him to be the next Gabe behind Joseph.

Sure, the Pistons could unload Bagley, but they are loaded with guards already, so weakening their front court for more guards is futile. They need a solid Small Forward more than anything else. But, they would probably do this deal for the picks.

As far as Bagley is concerned, he may be one of the worst defensive bigs in the league. He can play offense good though. Cory is hot and cold but is capable of big games so I would say he may be an improvement over Gabe.

[Pokuokic]

Bagley is like the worst defensive big, a black hole on offense and insanely low IQ 2 2nd round picks is to much for him let alone 2 1st rounders.

[twix2500]

Do you guys think Johnathan Isaac can survive Heat locker room/culture?

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