bstein14 wrote:Pistonrings wrote:bstein14 wrote:CoJo and Hayes split PG minutes tonight.
Hayes -3 in 23 minutes (25% FG%)
CoJo +23 in 25 minutes (50% FG%)
Duren (+10) and Bagley (-9) and coach Casey actually went small ball down the stretch with Stew at C and the Bey/Bojan combo at the forward spots.
Knox solid off the bench tonight as well.
Lol, I wonder if it matters who you are playing with and what opponents are on tge court with you. Gee, could there be a ton of variables there that aren't taken in to account? Of course there are.
CoJo played plenty with the starters and with the bench and played to finish out the game against Miami's starters and he played really solid tonight.
Then why mention Killian?
Lat time we visited the Bucks for that 2 game set, the 2nd night we got DESTROYED by like 25. All the starters were like minus in the mid twenties. Cade was like minus 25? So were the rest of the starters. Killian played 22 minutes, almost HALF THE GAME, and he lead the team that night at -3. So for Killian we were ONE SINGLE POSSESSION , ONE THREE POINTER down to the Bucks for near HALF THE ENTIRE GAME.
Now, can you tell me if Killian was REALLY a difference of like 22 in the plus minus over Cade, BB, and the rest? Or, could there really be a ton of variables that those numbers reflect that are causing those numbers?
Next question is, shall we go back and see IF YOU MENTIONED KILLIAN LEADING THE TEAM IN PLUS MINUS AFTER THAT GAME? I have a strange hunch that you didn't , hmm, do you have an AGENDA?
By the way, in the first game of that 2 game set, the close one where Cade was lighting up the midrange, guess who was 2nd on the team in plus minus only behind Livers who was a plus 12? You know the answer, Killian was.
But, do you think Killian was better than Cade, who had a great night knocking down those mid range jumpers? Or again, could it be variables again that the numbers don't take account of?
You see, when casuals have no idea what they are watching they tend to latch on and look fir silly stats to tell them what to think.
Can you tell me why Casey just said recently that Killian is THEIR BEST PG? Surely you know better than him how less valuable Killian is than Cojo, right? Casey said his defense, passing ability, court vision, bb iq, help defense were enough to make him valuable and that him scoring more was simply "gravy on top". Now why would the actual coach of the team seem to be on such a directly opposing view from yours?
For instance, I bet he sees things like Killian hounding opponents on defense and causing a turnover outvof bounds, but he knows that doesn't count as a steal for Killian, it's just a team turnover on the opponents stat sheet, Killian gets no steal stat for that. Hmm, I bet there are a lot of things that Casey can see in Killian that are valuable to the team. But of course, if you aren't able to see those things then you might just hunt for stats you think support your shallow understanding of the game.
Your back handed, constant ridicule of Killian is patgetic. And yours are the worst kind of mealy-mouthed nonsense because you always bad-mouth in an attempt to hide your hatred for Killian. Yet, you would always do it with an eye toward backing off if Killian eventually develops into a good player. In other words, you do not have the courage of your convictions.
I told you all along that Killian WAS ALREADY A VALUABLE PART OF THIS TEAM, even with zero offense. And isn't it amazing, his coach also seems to know that he was already valuable before his recent uptick.
Usually, I find most all the Killian haters end up being kids, teens who expect instant gratification and think scoring is the only thing that matter. Then I laugh when I find out they were like 2 years old when Ben Wallace was playing, lol.
I would like you to confront Casey and explain how you know more than he does and that Killian has no value at all to tge team, explain to him that defense doesn't matter, passing doesn't matter, help defense, court vision..., tell him that you found stats saying his plus minus is worst on the team and that THERE ARE ZERO UNACCOUNTED FOR VARIABLES THAT can make those stats worthless.
And explain to him that since you can find these stats, well, you could be a coach too.
