Kawhi doesn’t belong in any all time great lists.

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Re: Kawhi doesn’t belong in any all time great lists. 

Post#241 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:17 am

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levon wrote:Now imagine if you were sick 50% of the time, but were paid like a C-suite executive.


Not even close. According to Sportrac.com, Kawhi's has made $325 Million career NBA salary. The average salary of a CFO (one of the C-Suites) is around $400,000. For this C-Suite executive to equal Kawhi's salary would require that CFO to work for 813 years!

As for Kent's assertion of fans being "selfish" or "butt-hurt," don't forget we indirectly pay his salary. Without fans, Kawhi would have to get a real job. When you're being paid like a rock star and you're not performing to expectations for whatever reason, you're going to hear it from those who made you rich. It comes with the territory.

As for whether Kawhi being on a list of all timers, I vote no. He's had a few great seasons but they are dwarfed by his need to be load managed along with his vast arsenal of missed games. The end.

If you think the avg cfo is as valuable as an nba superstar ur off your rocker. There are literally thousands of them. Kawhi a top 15 player. People who are top 15 at valuable things get paid tons of money. That’s capitalism . The clippers know his health and availability and have him the money. Steve ballmer cool with that, idk why fans aren’t.

As for all time though, I think grant hill snubbed off the list I think. Wouldn’t kawhi just be bill if he didn’t manage his injuries the way he has? And maybe bill Walton or a couple others could have crazy playoff runs and get that kawhi level of accolades.

Here’s a fun one, how does he compare to harden? Harden is an all time great. Harden no show in numerous playoff series. Kawhi no show rs, all time great in the playoffs. Does rs matter more? Or PLayoffs? Who’s higher


Because fans want to actually watch these guys play against each other. We don't watch the games to argue over who is hypothetically better when they actually feel like suiting up.

Harden bombing in the playoffs is still more admirable than Kawhi chilling in the regular season.
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Post#242 » by And1+2 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:37 am

He's still one of the most talented basketball players to ever play. We should all consider ourselves lucky to have witnessed his greatness, it's just a shame that chronic injury cut it short.
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Post#243 » by naabzor » Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:08 pm

I still think when healthy he is legit in best player in the nba convo.
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Post#244 » by druggas » Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:07 pm

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Goomba3666 wrote:Lol. The "Beautiful" Spurs Basketball of 2014 wasn't mentioned when they were getting taken to the woodshed by a geriatric Vince Carter and Dirk.

It was only when they got to play a their opponent out East....which would've been a bottom feeder out West.


They beat the Mavs by 23 points in game 7, beat the Dame and Aldridge Blazers in 5, by 22 points in game 5, beat the KD and Westbrook Thunder in 6, by 35 in game 2 and 28 in game 5.

Throughout the playoffs, the Spurs outscored their opponents by 214 points, which is 2nd all time behind only the 2017 Warriors.

And sure, the Heat weren’t the best finals opponent, but the Kobe and Shaq Lakers didn’t face the best finals opponents either, and neither did the 86 Celtics or 72 Lakers.

Lakers beat the defending champs (Bucks) before they beat the Knicks in the finals.
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Re: Kawhi doesn’t belong in any all time great lists. 

Post#245 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:31 pm

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Not even close. According to Sportrac.com, Kawhi's has made $325 Million career NBA salary. The average salary of a CFO (one of the C-Suites) is around $400,000. For this C-Suite executive to equal Kawhi's salary would require that CFO to work for 813 years!

As for Kent's assertion of fans being "selfish" or "butt-hurt," don't forget we indirectly pay his salary. Without fans, Kawhi would have to get a real job. When you're being paid like a rock star and you're not performing to expectations for whatever reason, you're going to hear it from those who made you rich. It comes with the territory.

As for whether Kawhi being on a list of all timers, I vote no. He's had a few great seasons but they are dwarfed by his need to be load managed along with his vast arsenal of missed games. The end.

If you think the avg cfo is as valuable as an nba superstar ur off your rocker. There are literally thousands of them. Kawhi a top 15 player. People who are top 15 at valuable things get paid tons of money. That’s capitalism . The clippers know his health and availability and have him the money. Steve ballmer cool with that, idk why fans aren’t.

As for all time though, I think grant hill snubbed off the list I think. Wouldn’t kawhi just be bill if he didn’t manage his injuries the way he has? And maybe bill Walton or a couple others could have crazy playoff runs and get that kawhi level of accolades.

Here’s a fun one, how does he compare to harden? Harden is an all time great. Harden no show in numerous playoff series. Kawhi no show rs, all time great in the playoffs. Does rs matter more? Or PLayoffs? Who’s higher


Because fans want to actually watch these guys play against each other. We don't watch the games to argue over who is hypothetically better when they actually feel like suiting up.

Harden bombing in the playoffs is still more admirable than Kawhi chilling in the regular season.

as a raptors fan, id disagree. kawhi played 60 games, none of which he missed due to an in game injury, and fans were still quite happy with him. you arent going to go around the streets of toronto and find ppl like "bum ass mf never plays" even if kd/klay was healthy and we got clapped by the warriors in 5. The clippers have just had an unfortunate go with injury. The guy obviously has a chronic knee issue. say he played through everything... hed be a 3 and d wing now because hed have so many injuries or he'd str8 up be out the league. klay tore his achilles going to hard to come back. cousins. Hill. D Rose. Arenas. Russ. KOBE. all these guys cost themselves prime years in their 30s by trying to prove something they didnt need to. I would give anything to have seen derrick rose load manage.
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Post#246 » by PeteyPablo » Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:39 pm

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NO-KG-AI wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:If you think the avg cfo is as valuable as an nba superstar ur off your rocker. There are literally thousands of them. Kawhi a top 15 player. People who are top 15 at valuable things get paid tons of money. That’s capitalism . The clippers know his health and availability and have him the money. Steve ballmer cool with that, idk why fans aren’t.

As for all time though, I think grant hill snubbed off the list I think. Wouldn’t kawhi just be bill if he didn’t manage his injuries the way he has? And maybe bill Walton or a couple others could have crazy playoff runs and get that kawhi level of accolades.

Here’s a fun one, how does he compare to harden? Harden is an all time great. Harden no show in numerous playoff series. Kawhi no show rs, all time great in the playoffs. Does rs matter more? Or PLayoffs? Who’s higher


Because fans want to actually watch these guys play against each other. We don't watch the games to argue over who is hypothetically better when they actually feel like suiting up.

Harden bombing in the playoffs is still more admirable than Kawhi chilling in the regular season.

as a raptors fan, id disagree. kawhi played 60 games, none of which he missed due to an in game injury, and fans were still quite happy with him. you arent going to go around the streets of toronto and find ppl like "bum ass mf never plays" even if kd/klay was healthy and we got clapped by the warriors in 5. The clippers have just had an unfortunate go with injury. The guy obviously has a chronic knee issue. say he played through everything... hed be a 3 and d wing now because hed have so many injuries or he'd str8 up be out the league. klay tore his achilles going to hard to come back. cousins. Hill. D Rose. Arenas. Russ. KOBE. all these guys cost themselves prime years in their 30s by trying to prove something they didnt need to. I would give anything to have seen derrick rose load manage.



Once Klaw retires and announces he is done playing in the NBA , at that time we can accurately make an assessment of his career.

He is 6’7” and 225 lbs. Most defenders bounce off of him in the post. His game models Jordan’s game. Not exactly athletic ability based , not to say he can be fat and slow and still produce - but it’s not dependent on crazy athletic ability.

It seems a lot of the critics here have an underlined hater quality with a splash of valid concerns with their points of view.
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Re: Kawhi doesn’t belong in any all time great lists. 

Post#247 » by NZB2323 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:01 pm

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NZB2323 wrote:
Goomba3666 wrote:Lol. The "Beautiful" Spurs Basketball of 2014 wasn't mentioned when they were getting taken to the woodshed by a geriatric Vince Carter and Dirk.

It was only when they got to play a their opponent out East....which would've been a bottom feeder out West.


They beat the Mavs by 23 points in game 7, beat the Dame and Aldridge Blazers in 5, by 22 points in game 5, beat the KD and Westbrook Thunder in 6, by 35 in game 2 and 28 in game 5.

Throughout the playoffs, the Spurs outscored their opponents by 214 points, which is 2nd all time behind only the 2017 Warriors.

And sure, the Heat weren’t the best finals opponent, but the Kobe and Shaq Lakers didn’t face the best finals opponents either, and neither did the 86 Celtics or 72 Lakers.

Lakers beat the defending champs (Bucks) before they beat the Knicks in the finals.


Okay, and the Spurs beat the defending champs in the finals, in addition to the KD/Westbrook Thunder, and Dame/Aldridge Blazers.

Wade was worse in 2014 and Oscar Robertson was worse in 1972. Their playoff numbers are actually pretty similar. Can you guess which one is which?

Player A: 13, 6, and 8, 41% FG%, 83% FT%, 16.4 PER

Player B: 18, 4, and 4, 50% FG%, 77% FT%, 18.5 PER
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Post#248 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:24 pm

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Because fans want to actually watch these guys play against each other. We don't watch the games to argue over who is hypothetically better when they actually feel like suiting up.

Harden bombing in the playoffs is still more admirable than Kawhi chilling in the regular season.

as a raptors fan, id disagree. kawhi played 60 games, none of which he missed due to an in game injury, and fans were still quite happy with him. you arent going to go around the streets of toronto and find ppl like "bum ass mf never plays" even if kd/klay was healthy and we got clapped by the warriors in 5. The clippers have just had an unfortunate go with injury. The guy obviously has a chronic knee issue. say he played through everything... hed be a 3 and d wing now because hed have so many injuries or he'd str8 up be out the league. klay tore his achilles going to hard to come back. cousins. Hill. D Rose. Arenas. Russ. KOBE. all these guys cost themselves prime years in their 30s by trying to prove something they didnt need to. I would give anything to have seen derrick rose load manage.



Once Klaw retires and announces he is done playing in the NBA , at that time we can accurately make an assessment of his career.

He is 6’7” and 225 lbs. Most defenders bounce off of him in the post. His game models Jordan’s game. Not exactly athletic ability based , not to say he can be fat and slow and still produce - but it’s not dependent on crazy athletic ability.

It seems a lot of the critics here have an underlined hater quality with a splash of valid concerns with their points of view.


Who is hating? Someone asked why the fans care if he misses games lol.
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Post#249 » by GrindCityHustle » Mon Dec 19, 2022 3:08 am

He is the only person to troll Pop and won a title to pour salt in the wound. Then said peace im out to a fanbase in Toronto that adored him. He is safe.


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