So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked?

[Ballerhogger]

Perfect time to trade him

almost tempted to

[DonaldSanders]

It's hard watching Klay like this. He looked disinterested tonight, I wonder if he can tell when his body is failing him? Just grasping at straws over here to explain his bad body language tonight vs. the 76ers. It's like he is a mid/late 30s vet that occasionally can turn back the clock and explode, but often just looks like he has dead legs. All we needed was a decent game from him... I feel like Steve needs to sit him if he's going to play low IQ with bad body language.

If he stuck with catch and shoot and stopped with his dribble + 2 point shot plays he'd be a *lot* more efficient but he just can't stop himself. I assume the coaches have explained to him where he's been efficient and where he hasn't, because it's confusing why he is taking so many shots most spectators can tell are bad shots for him. And when he isn't playing as a primary defender on ball he tends to lose focus on defense.

Hurts saying all this stuff and seeing it on the court, he'll always be a Warrior legend but he is not the same player.

[GrindCityHustle]

I don't understand why the Warriors won't trade him. He is literally costing them a ton in luxury tax by keeping him. It's insane levels with the repeater tax. It's not like he isn't loved or won't get paid.

[HMFFL]

I don't understand why the Warriors won't trade him. He is literally costing them a ton in luxury tax by keeping him. It's insane levels with the repeater tax. It's not like he isn't loved or won't get paid.

And just think, he gets a $3 million dollar raise next season. $43.2 million

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[xdrta+]

I don't understand why the Warriors won't trade him. He is literally costing them a ton in luxury tax by keeping him. It's insane levels with the repeater tax. It's not like he isn't loved or won't get paid.

Since they would have to take salary back, how much would they save?

[GrindCityHustle]

I don't understand why the Warriors won't trade him. He is literally costing them a ton in luxury tax by keeping him. It's insane levels with the repeater tax. It's not like he isn't loved or won't get paid.

Since they would have to take salary back, how much would they save?

They can dump him on Indiana and since they are under the cap the Warriors could also get a huge trade exception.

Probably Buddy Hields contract.

[NO-KG-AI]

I don't understand why the Warriors won't trade him. He is literally costing them a ton in luxury tax by keeping him. It's insane levels with the repeater tax. It's not like he isn't loved or won't get paid.

Since they would have to take salary back, how much would they save?

I think they could trade him for someone 25% cheaper, which would shave a ton off repeater tax for them.

[Plutonashfan]

His defense is still cooked even in the 41 point game.

Honestly that was to be accepted he had two horrible injuries back to back and missed a ton of time.

[Clav]

Trading Klay means the end of the Champ run, they will dismantle when things are clearer [off season likely] ?? Just my thoughts, because this year isn't a complete loss yet [even if things look dire, this team could get hot in March / April and wipe everyone off the floor

[Sane]

He'll get gradually better and see another improvement in his second season back. I don't get why people haven't picked this up from watching others with the same injury. Look at KD right now, he's much better than last season.

[threethehardway]

He'll get gradually better and see another improvement in his second season back. I don't get why people haven't picked this up from watching others with the same injury. Look at KD right now, he's much better than last season.

KD is a way better athlete than Klay and way more skilled than Klay.

He did lose his burst and ability to get to the rim but he is near 7 foot and can just shoot over anyone.

Klay already struggled with getting to the rim and shooting over defenders from the midrange area, now he's abysmal at it.

I doubt Klay returns to being where he was, he is the prime example of a player that can't afford to lose a step because his game isn't skilled enough to compensate.

[Sane]

He'll get gradually better and see another improvement in his second season back. I don't get why people haven't picked this up from watching others with the same injury. Look at KD right now, he's much better than last season.

KD is a way better athlete than Klay and way more skilled than Klay.

He did lose his burst and ability to get to the rim but he is near 7 foot and can just shoot over anyone.

Klay already struggled with getting to the rim and shooting over defenders from the midrange area, now he's abysmal at it.

I doubt Klay returns to being where he was, he is the prime example of a player that can't afford to lose a step because his game isn't skilled enough to compensate.

You are making my point for me here. Klay doesn't need the athleticism as much so he's more likely to return closer to form (age aside).

If Durant lost anything, his overall %'s would be lower because he didn't get better at shooting over people. He always shot a lower percentage over people than he did at the rim, so if his finishing at the rim took a hit he wouldn't be peaking on efficiency right now. Durant barely lost anything. Being more athletic does NOT mean you heal faster, those are separate things.

Klay won't return to exactly where he was because he's in his 30's and he'll be almost 3 years older than the Klay you're talking about. I think he'll be fine recovering slowly just like almost everyone. People just love to jump to conclusions early even if it's something that JUST takes TIME. Slow recovery where there are peaks and valleys of performance, but he is gradually improving.

[LFAHFN22]

He missed two and a half seasons, right?

He will not satisfy his salary, but there are very few players in the league that would (satisfy his salary). Klay will be fine as a key contributor/impact player barring any further injuries.

There are a few things plaguing this Warriors team in general. The primary issue has been consistency, with the primary reasons being age and disinterest. They've been to six out of the last eight Finals. lol..

[Zetsword]

He's shooting and missing more three's than ever to get out of his slump and it's not working. He needs to try get that midrange going when the three isn't happening and stop taking such difficult shots.

[DonaldSanders]

He's shooting and missing more three's than ever to get out of his slump and it's not working. He needs to try get that midrange going when the three isn't happening and stop taking such difficult shots.

His 3s are up but honestly I think you have it backwards. While he could hold/pass out of 1-2 3s per game, as a Warrior fan that's the part of his game that seems fine -- he's not the same 3P shooter, but this season and last he is a little over 38% in a total of 79 games between the regular season and the playoffs. It's been his mid-range that has been bad, 42.3% from 2 this season is not good. 3-10ft 40.4%, 10-16 ft 39.2%. and 16ft-3P 42.9%. He gets run off the 3pt line and needs to pass it but he often dribbles and looks for a shot now, which was never his game.

He'll get gradually better and see another improvement in his second season back. I don't get why people haven't picked this up from watching others with the same injury. Look at KD right now, he's much better than last season.

KD only had one of the two injuries Klay had, and KD has height going for him. Klay no longer can be the POA defender against strong guards. It's been tougher for Klay to get open and then get his shot off because he's a step slower, where Durant is so tall he often can just shoot over people anyway. It's part of why KD is such a cheat code.

At this point Klay needs to reduce his total shot attempts and focus on being efficient. Volume or dribbling Klay isn't good, but efficient Klay can still contribute nicely. If he cut 3-4 inefficient shots per game and started being a 13 shot per game guy instead of his current 16.6 shot pace he'd grade out a lot better.

But I do think he's still adjusting to his new reality and the desire to win and have good #s will eventually take over for him. I'm sure it bothers him that currently for this season he is under 40% in shooting (.399), he will find his new equilibrium eventually.

[PostGameDaVinci]

He doesn't have his legs under him like he used to, but his ego won't let him take a step back. He's always had a crazy shot selection, but now he's hunting for his shot & it's throwing off his and the team's flow.

[ItsDanger]

Saw him for a first full game this season. Just seems a notch or two slower. He has to adjust his game, less usage, more shots for Wiggins. I think they're kind of doing this already. Klay may not be acknowledging to himself that the same previous exertion effort isn't getting same results. Its all relative but not much different as we all age. Previous NBA expiry date was around 32 after all.

[Hoop Hunter]

I don't understand why the Warriors won't trade him. He is literally costing them a ton in luxury tax by keeping him. It's insane levels with the repeater tax. It's not like he isn't loved or won't get paid.

Since they would have to take salary back, how much would they save?

They can dump him on Indiana and since they are under the cap the Warriors could also get a huge trade exception.

Probably Buddy Hields contract.

Why would Indy do that Ha Ha Ha.

Giving up cap space for a washed Clay getting massively overpaid and gaining nothing? Buddy is better at his point, younger and cheaper. They'd have to give up Kaminga to make it even thinkable. That contract, probably still no.

[Sane]

He's shooting and missing more three's than ever to get out of his slump and it's not working. He needs to try get that midrange going when the three isn't happening and stop taking such difficult shots.

His 3s are up but honestly I think you have it backwards. While he could hold/pass out of 1-2 3s per game, as a Warrior fan that's the part of his game that seems fine -- he's not the same 3P shooter, but this season and last he is a little over 38% in a total of 79 games between the regular season and the playoffs. It's been his mid-range that has been bad, 42.3% from 2 this season is not good. 3-10ft 40.4%, 10-16 ft 39.2%. and 16ft-3P 42.9%. He gets run off the 3pt line and needs to pass it but he often dribbles and looks for a shot now, which was never his game.

He'll get gradually better and see another improvement in his second season back. I don't get why people haven't picked this up from watching others with the same injury. Look at KD right now, he's much better than last season.

KD only had one of the two injuries Klay had, and KD has height going for him. Klay no longer can be the POA defender against strong guards. It's been tougher for Klay to get open and then get his shot off because he's a step slower, where Durant is so tall he often can just shoot over people anyway. It's part of why KD is such a cheat code.

At this point Klay needs to reduce his total shot attempts and focus on being efficient. Volume or dribbling Klay isn't good, but efficient Klay can still contribute nicely. If he cut 3-4 inefficient shots per game and started being a 13 shot per game guy instead of his current 16.6 shot pace he'd grade out a lot better.

But I do think he's still adjusting to his new reality and the desire to win and have good #s will eventually take over for him. I'm sure it bothers him that currently for this season he is under 40% in shooting (.399), he will find his new equilibrium eventually.

I think you're hating on your own player man. Of course he can't right now do what he used to do. Of course that does not mean he won't do close to what he was supposed to do at whatever age he is next season.

If next year's Klay was going to be a 8 out of 10, he'll now be a 7.5 out of 10. He'll never be the 9 out of 10 he was when he was 3 years younger, injury or not.

[Run DLC]

Yet, he still act like an obnoxious frat boy prick.