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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1601 » by TerrenceClarke » Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Smash3 wrote:I don’t even blame MPH because I love to stack the deck against my competitors. I think everyone should have known that there would come a time where teams that tanked and accumulate assets would eventually dominate BAF



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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1603 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:42 pm

E-Balla wrote:
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E-Balla wrote:Winning the title means you have the best players right now. To me making the best out of minimal assets makes you the best and you have that done hands down. Hell you're the only person where you consistently win trades and make something out of nothing. MPH is more of an asset piler with an eye for cap management which is great but requires a lot of losing for asset gathering. You and Smash are more Spurs like in your approach to the sim.


Caveat - I was really really bad for one year and that pick landed me James Wiseman (the years surrounding that I made the playoffs). I think I set my future off by selling AD at the right time. That set me off in the right direction. But I won 50 games the year after with basically my all rookie team. I think it helped me get a further idea of what players the SIM liked and it helped me in the future winning 50 games with that roster.

There are a lot of great GM's out there would uncomfortable crowning one specific guy/girl as the best. But I would contest anyone saying I built my roster through losing. It was more timely trades if anything.

My bad MPH. Either way you're right, it takes talent to build a good squad. You either have to coach your ass off or know how to get talent in a league full of people that want to beat you.

All that said I understand you're uncomfortable crowning one person, but NewEra is by far the most annoying of all of you. In a good way lol. I never think I'll beat his squad when we play it just happens sometimes.


No worries bro. I have no problem admitting I hit the major reset button that one year. I just was middling in nowhere with a $500 AD and losing in the first round. So I tore it down in one year and built it back up. Not every move works out either.

I have spoken a lot about HEZI taking Jaylen Brown from me (I originally drafted him with AD as my core 2 guys). But Jaylen wasn't taken the leap and I traded him a year before he broke out. And I got nothing more than a middling 1st round pick back if I remember correctly.

But doesn't deter me. I think right now my trade for DeAndre Hunter which helped me with last year. But that trade looks great for Phish Tank going forward. He got Poeltl and Vassell in that deal...with Vassell breaking out that is a really nice piece and Poeltl as you know is just solid and really cheap starting center that he has control over still for another 1 after this.

I think I have a list of my really good trades that set me up even prior to the Jokic one.

I think I was killed for trading WCJ for Boucher and a 1st round pick 2 years ago...and Boucher was a huge rotational piece for me for $1 when I won my championship and the 1st round pick down the line ended up resulting in Tyrese Haliburton. There is some forward thinking with some of these moves.

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1604 » by El Poochio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:25 pm

I thought Deez got a haul for an expiring, E-Balla probably doesnt know Curry got traded for Wiseman + mid pick lol

Mph shouldnt have kept both Curry and Jokic thats all there is. I didnt go for Curry thinking he would be a popular target, never assume things!
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1605 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:31 pm

El Poochio wrote:I thought Deez got a haul for an expiring, E-Balla probably doesnt know Curry got traded for Wiseman + mid pick lol

Mph shouldnt have kept both Curry and Jokic thats all there is. I didnt go for Curry thinking he would be a popular target, never assume things!


your thinking of a different trade. Wiseman didn't go for Curry. I think I got him because I hate over $500 in cap space and basically took on almost all the salary gave a couple young prospects and a couple 1st round picks without sending any long term salary back for an expiring which I think was enticing at the time.

I wasn't expecting to bring them both back. Jokic because of age and his dominance last couple years in real life was the guy I wasn't going to lose after trading a lot to get him. Curry I was expecting to lose and sent in what I was expecting to be a bid beat but it never was. I was fully expecting to pivot to a lesser guard and let Haliburton run more of the point.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1606 » by El Poochio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:33 pm

HEZI wrote:
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HEZI wrote:Wait, Mpharris has the Wizards pick? How/when did that happen?

Ah shyt that’s ridiculous


I just learned this today too. It's unreasonable. DaGawd - get your **** together and stop this train!


He was able to accumulate all that talent via trades and nobody was able to get that Wizards pick from him? Sheesh


Should have traded GPII for it :o
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1607 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:34 pm

El Poochio wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
I just learned this today too. It's unreasonable. DaGawd - get your **** together and stop this train!


He was able to accumulate all that talent via trades and nobody was able to get that Wizards pick from him? Sheesh


Should have traded GPII for it :o


Should have traded Luka for it :o
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1608 » by El Poochio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:34 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:I thought Deez got a haul for an expiring, E-Balla probably doesnt know Curry got traded for Wiseman + mid pick lol

Mph shouldnt have kept both Curry and Jokic thats all there is. I didnt go for Curry thinking he would be a popular target, never assume things!


your thinking of a different trade. Wiseman didn't go for Curry.

I wasn't expecting to bring them both back. Jokic because of age and his dominance last couple years in real life was the guy I wasn't going to lose after trading a lot to get him. Curry I was expecting to lose and sent in what I was expecting to be a bid beat but it never was. I was fully expecting to pivot to a lesser guard and let Haliburton run more of the point.


That team would have been scary too anyway if you kept Hali, with top pick coming in
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1609 » by El Poochio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:35 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
HEZI wrote:
He was able to accumulate all that talent via trades and nobody was able to get that Wizards pick from him? Sheesh


Should have traded GPII for it :o


Should have traded Luka for it :o


Why you traded it already?
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Post#1610 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:38 pm

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1611 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:43 pm

El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
Should have traded GPII for it :o


Should have traded Luka for it :o


Why you traded it already?


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1612 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:45 pm

El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:I thought Deez got a haul for an expiring, E-Balla probably doesnt know Curry got traded for Wiseman + mid pick lol

Mph shouldnt have kept both Curry and Jokic thats all there is. I didnt go for Curry thinking he would be a popular target, never assume things!


your thinking of a different trade. Wiseman didn't go for Curry.

I wasn't expecting to bring them both back. Jokic because of age and his dominance last couple years in real life was the guy I wasn't going to lose after trading a lot to get him. Curry I was expecting to lose and sent in what I was expecting to be a bid beat but it never was. I was fully expecting to pivot to a lesser guard and let Haliburton run more of the point.


That team would have been scary too anyway if you kept Hali, with top pick coming in


My plan B was if I missed out on Curry to resign Bridges and sign a lesser guard like Jrue Holiday. But I don't think I would have went north of $200 for bridges so Buzz got his man. Worked out well for me. Maybe some people were concerned the SIM wasn't going to rate Curry well (which it didn't). I was hoping with a quick start to this year they would give Curry his 5 star back but they kept him at 4 off of his worst year of his career even though he killed it in the post season.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1613 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:45 pm

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Post#1614 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:47 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Caveat - I was really really bad for one year and that pick landed me James Wiseman (the years surrounding that I made the playoffs). I think I set my future off by selling AD at the right time. That set me off in the right direction. But I won 50 games the year after with basically my all rookie team. I think it helped me get a further idea of what players the SIM liked and it helped me in the future winning 50 games with that roster.

There are a lot of great GM's out there would uncomfortable crowning one specific guy/girl as the best. But I would contest anyone saying I built my roster through losing. It was more timely trades if anything.


The Wiseman rookie year was some of the biggest BS I've ever seen in BAF :lol:
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1615 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Caveat - I was really really bad for one year and that pick landed me James Wiseman (the years surrounding that I made the playoffs). I think I set my future off by selling AD at the right time. That set me off in the right direction. But I won 50 games the year after with basically my all rookie team. I think it helped me get a further idea of what players the SIM liked and it helped me in the future winning 50 games with that roster.

There are a lot of great GM's out there would uncomfortable crowning one specific guy/girl as the best. But I would contest anyone saying I built my roster through losing. It was more timely trades if anything.


The Wiseman rookie year was some of the biggest BS I've ever seen in BAF :lol:


It absolutely was. Up there with Whiteside and Moses Brown.

I was kinda not expecting to be a playoff team and win +50 games starting

Haliburton/Vassell/Okoro/Patrick Williams/Wiseman ...but sometimes you enjoy the ride. :lol:
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Post#1616 » by El Poochio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:56 pm

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1617 » by El Poochio » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
your thinking of a different trade. Wiseman didn't go for Curry.

I wasn't expecting to bring them both back. Jokic because of age and his dominance last couple years in real life was the guy I wasn't going to lose after trading a lot to get him. Curry I was expecting to lose and sent in what I was expecting to be a bid beat but it never was. I was fully expecting to pivot to a lesser guard and let Haliburton run more of the point.


That team would have been scary too anyway if you kept Hali, with top pick coming in


My plan B was if I missed out on Curry to resign Bridges and sign a lesser guard like Jrue Holiday. But I don't think I would have went north of $200 for bridges so Buzz got his man. Worked out well for me. Maybe some people were concerned the SIM wasn't going to rate Curry well (which it didn't). I was hoping with a quick start to this year they would give Curry his 5 star back but they kept him at 4 off of his worst year of his career even though he killed it in the post season.


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread 

Post#1618 » by mpharris36 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:06 pm

El Poochio wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
That team would have been scary too anyway if you kept Hali, with top pick coming in


My plan B was if I missed out on Curry to resign Bridges and sign a lesser guard like Jrue Holiday. But I don't think I would have went north of $200 for bridges so Buzz got his man. Worked out well for me. Maybe some people were concerned the SIM wasn't going to rate Curry well (which it didn't). I was hoping with a quick start to this year they would give Curry his 5 star back but they kept him at 4 off of his worst year of his career even though he killed it in the post season.


I knew you meant him


Wanted a lower usage guard that can play off Jokic and at the time allow Haliburton more on ball opportunities but someone also that is an excellent POA defender that can be a secondary scoring option. He fit the bill.

Once I brought back Curry and knew I wasn't bringing back Mikal with the teams after him I got a little worried about the Curry/Haliburton backcourt defensively so I was trying to find a guard I equally liked that was a little better fit with my squad in Bane even though I may have given up more value.
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Post#1619 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:17 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:The Wiseman rookie year was some of the biggest BS I've ever seen in BAF :lol:


It absolutely was. Up there with Whiteside and Moses Brown.


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