Re: Trade Talk (Part Eleven): 2022 Offseason Edition

[BlacJacMac]

Cavs looking for wing help. Prince and novell for Levert and Okoro would be nice.

So they need wing help, but they're trading two wings for a wing and a SG?

[Note30]

According to me the GM and the staff will make what ever it takes to make it works...Gobert will stay with us for the next years...

Makes sense. If it came down between KAT and Gobert, I think they would choose Gobert.

[Note30]

Cavs looking for wing help. Prince and novell for Levert and Okoro would be nice.

So they need wing help, but they're trading two wings for a wing and a SG?

The only player they could realistically give us is Rubio, but given the history, and how he wouldn't fit into Finch's scheme, best we leave that bone buried.

[shrink]

I don’t know if Tim Connelly has big cojones, but Lonzo Ball is at an all-time low in trade value, with two additional years on his deal and a knee injury he can’t seem to fully recover from. However, if he was healthy, he’s a big 3-and-D PG that would work here.

I wonder just how many extra assets we’d get from Chicago in a DLo-Lonzo deal? The Bulls want to keep Zach happy, and he seems to be drifting

I’m not endorsing acquiring Lonzo, but I will say that its interesting to me.

[life_saver]

For those who wanna trade KAT, I just don't see how it's the best option. He is the most consistent player offensively on the team and this team at the moment is a lottery team without KAT ( might not even get a chance to qualify for the play-in tournament) and we don't own any FRPs in near future..the chances of getting back a player in a KAT trade that can contribute right away is less and Ant isn't still there yet to carry the team. Most likely scenario if we trade KAT is not even qualifying for playoffs next couple of seasons (West is crazy competitive)..if that's the case, there is a chance Ant might even ask for a trade.

I feel like the best option for Wolves is to continue with Ant-KAT duo (unless Gobert fits in, look for options to trade Gobert or just bench him) and hope that one of the younger players like McDaniels, Moore etc take a leap or find a gem in late round drafts.

[Big_Red1988]

I have a 3 team trade to propose.

Min Out: D'lo, Anderson
Min In: Lowery, Bogdonavic

Mia Out: Robinson, Lowery
Mia In: Young, Anderson

Atl Out: Young, Bogdonavic
Atl In: D'lo, Robinson

Min likes this because we get something back for the D'lo contract in Lowry, even though he is older he can really teach this young group about winning. Lowry also helps with the loss of Anderson defensively and IQ wise. Bogdonavic is currently in top 10 for 3 point makes per game as well.

Mia like this trade as there have been rumors that they are wanting to upgrade at PG, obviously Young is that. They also get off the Robinson contract and bring in a high IQ player like Anderson to help them push for a championship again.

Atlanta like this trade as they are getting some return for Trey Young wanting out (according to rumors) and if they want to tank they now have D'lo expiring contract and they also get Robinson who might flourish again in a new home.

This trade works on NBA trade machine, obviously draft picks will also need to be thrown in for compensation, especially for the Trae Young part of the deal.

[shangrila]

I don’t know if Tim Connelly has big cojones, but Lonzo Ball is at an all-time low in trade value, with two additional years on his deal and a knee injury he can’t seem to fully recover from. However, if he was healthy, he’s a big 3-and-D PG that would work here.

I wonder just how many extra assets we’d get from Chicago in a DLo-Lonzo deal? The Bulls want to keep Zach happy, and he seems to be drifting

I’m not endorsing acquiring Lonzo, but I will say that its interesting to me.

On paper Ball is an incredible fit. Unfortunately the only reason he'd be available is if the knee injury is serious, which would mean there's no point in getting him.

[Domejandro]

Spoiler:

I have a 3 team trade to propose.

Min Out: D'lo, Anderson
Min In: Lowery, Bogdonavic

Mia Out: Robinson, Lowery
Mia In: Young, Anderson

Atl Out: Young, Bogdonavic
Atl In: D'lo, Robinson

Min likes this because we get something back for the D'lo contract in Lowry, even though he is older he can really teach this young group about winning. Lowry also helps with the loss of Anderson defensively and IQ wise. Bogdonavic is currently in top 10 for 3 point makes per game as well.

Mia like this trade as there have been rumors that they are wanting to upgrade at PG, obviously Young is that. They also get off the Robinson contract and bring in a high IQ player like Anderson to help them push for a championship again.

Atlanta like this trade as they are getting some return for Trey Young wanting out (according to rumors) and if they want to tank they now have D'lo expiring contract and they also get Robinson who might flourish again in a new home.

This trade works on NBA trade machine, obviously draft picks will also need to be thrown in for compensation, especially for the Trae Young part of the deal.

Respectfully, this trade is not salvageable for Atlanta. There isn’t a pathway to making them accept this.

[shrink]

I don’t know if Tim Connelly has big cojones, but Lonzo Ball is at an all-time low in trade value, with two additional years on his deal and a knee injury he can’t seem to fully recover from. However, if he was healthy, he’s a big 3-and-D PG that would work here.

I wonder just how many extra assets we’d get from Chicago in a DLo-Lonzo deal? The Bulls want to keep Zach happy, and he seems to be drifting

I’m not endorsing acquiring Lonzo, but I will say that its interesting to me.

On paper Ball is an incredible fit. Unfortunately the only reason he'd be available is if the knee injury is serious, which would mean there's no point in getting him.

I tend to look at it like a gamble. Right now, CHI doesn’t know if he’s going to get better, we don’t know, and Ball himself probably doesn’t know. The NBA has moved past the time when they could hide medical info or misrepresent their players over injuries, after a few trades were rescinded a number of years back.

Obviously if MIN was going to take on this risk, they’d need to be compensated. But if Connelly was a bigger risk-taker than the Bulls GM (Mark Eversley .. yeah, I had to look it up!), who knows? But what does CHI have in assets that would make it worth the risk? Right now, Ball was voted #5 in the Ten Worst Contracts poll on the Trade Board.

[sogood]

I have a 3 team trade to propose.

Min Out: D'lo, Anderson
Min In: Lowery, Bogdonavic

Mia Out: Robinson, Lowery
Mia In: Young, Anderson

Atl Out: Young, Bogdonavic
Atl In: D'lo, Robinson

Min likes this because we get something back for the D'lo contract in Lowry, even though he is older he can really teach this young group about winning. Lowry also helps with the loss of Anderson defensively and IQ wise. Bogdonavic is currently in top 10 for 3 point makes per game as well.

Mia like this trade as there have been rumors that they are wanting to upgrade at PG, obviously Young is that. They also get off the Robinson contract and bring in a high IQ player like Anderson to help them push for a championship again.

Atlanta like this trade as they are getting some return for Trey Young wanting out (according to rumors) and if they want to tank they now have D'lo expiring contract and they also get Robinson who might flourish again in a new home.

This trade works on NBA trade machine, obviously draft picks will also need to be thrown in for compensation, especially for the Trae Young part of the deal.

lmao yeah I'm sure Atlanta will be thrilled with getting an expiring and a bad contract for their all-star point guard.

[Note30]

I don’t know if Tim Connelly has big cojones, but Lonzo Ball is at an all-time low in trade value, with two additional years on his deal and a knee injury he can’t seem to fully recover from. However, if he was healthy, he’s a big 3-and-D PG that would work here.

I wonder just how many extra assets we’d get from Chicago in a DLo-Lonzo deal? The Bulls want to keep Zach happy, and he seems to be drifting

I’m not endorsing acquiring Lonzo, but I will say that its interesting to me.

On paper Ball is an incredible fit. Unfortunately the only reason he'd be available is if the knee injury is serious, which would mean there's no point in getting him.

I tend to look at it like a gamble. Right now, CHI doesn’t know if he’s going to get better, we don’t know, and Ball himself probably doesn’t know. The NBA has moved past the time when they could hide medical info or misrepresent their players over injuries, after a few trades were rescinded a number of years back.

Obviously if MIN was going to take on this risk, they’d need to be compensated. But if Connelly was a bigger risk-taker than the Bulls GM (Mark Eversley .. yeah, I had to look it up!), who knows? But what does CHI have in assets that would make it worth the risk? Right now, Ball was voted #5 in the Ten Worst Contracts poll on the Trade Board.

Well it's 2 years left on the contract. If we could push it I'd love to get the following

Caruso, Ball, DeRozan

DLo, Prince, Moore, Jmac, filler

Rotation for the rest of the year
Caruso/Nowell/(Bev)
Edwards/Rivers
DeRozan/McDaniels
Anderson/Reid
Gobert/x

Hopefully with Caruso as a defensive minded PG and a leader in DeRozan we could resalvage some of this season.

Then when KAT gets back

[minimus]

I wonder why FVV in his contract year is so inefficient?

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[minimus]

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Would you trade DLo for Lowry straightforward?

[minimus]

DLo, Reid, Nowell for Hield, TJ McConnell?

[Guidus88]

DLo, Reid, Nowell for Hield, TJ McConnell?

I like this one but a bit unsure of trading Naz…

[shrink]

DLo, Reid, Nowell for Hield, TJ McConnell?

I like this idea a lot. Clears the books, and clears playing time for Duarte next year. Wow, Hield is 30! They can become the big cap space trader next year.

Not sure on valuation. Neither of the Pacer players have real value, but I’d be okay including either Nowell or Naz to give them a little incentive. They may feel Buddy is worth a first after the Laker rumors, but he’s just a good three point shooter making $20 a year.

So good, I tossed it up on the Trade Board. Let’s see what neutral people think?

[Norseman79]

DLo, Reid, Nowell for Hield, TJ McConnell?

I like this idea a lot. Clears the books, and clears playing time for Duarte next year. Wow, Hield is 30! They can become the big cap space trader next year.

Not sure on valuation. Neither of the Pacer players have real value, but I’d be okay including either Nowell or Naz to give them a little incentive. They may feel Buddy is worth a first after the Laker rumors, but he’s just a good three point shooter making $20 a year.

So good, I tossed it up on the Trade Board. Let’s see what neutral people think?

What about switching it up and getting Theiss, Nesmith and Nembhard back, and a pick as well.

[Mamba4Goat]

DLo, Reid, Nowell for Hield, TJ McConnell?

I like this idea a lot. Clears the books, and clears playing time for Duarte next year. Wow, Hield is 30! They can become the big cap space trader next year.

Not sure on valuation. Neither of the Pacer players have real value, but I’d be okay including either Nowell or Naz to give them a little incentive. They may feel Buddy is worth a first after the Laker rumors, but he’s just a good three point shooter making $20 a year.

So good, I tossed it up on the Trade Board. Let’s see what neutral people think?

What about switching it up and getting Theiss, Nesmith and Nembhard back, and a pick as well.

I don’t think Indy considers any Nembhard trades unless Jaden is involved. He’s been absolutely fantastic.

[shrink]

DLo, Reid, Nowell for Hield, TJ McConnell?

I like this idea a lot. Clears the books, and clears playing time for Duarte next year. Wow, Hield is 30! They can become the big cap space trader next year.

Not sure on valuation. Neither of the Pacer players have real value, but I’d be okay including either Nowell or Naz to give them a little incentive. They may feel Buddy is worth a first after the Laker rumors, but he’s just a good three point shooter making $20 a year.

So good, I tossed it up on the Trade Board. Let’s see what neutral people think?

What about switching it up and getting Theiss, Nesmith and Nembhard back, and a pick as well.

I was surprised how little traction this got. IND is sixth in the East, so the thought was that they’d want to maintain Hield and McConnell. I get that they’ve done well so far, but does this swap really keep them out of the playoffs? And wouldn’t they prefer to get playoff experience for their young players, not the 30 year old Hield and McConnell? Next year they really profit too. Head scratcher for me - I like the deal for both sides.

[Note30]

I like this idea a lot. Clears the books, and clears playing time for Duarte next year. Wow, Hield is 30! They can become the big cap space trader next year.

Not sure on valuation. Neither of the Pacer players have real value, but I’d be okay including either Nowell or Naz to give them a little incentive. They may feel Buddy is worth a first after the Laker rumors, but he’s just a good three point shooter making $20 a year.

So good, I tossed it up on the Trade Board. Let’s see what neutral people think?

What about switching it up and getting Theiss, Nesmith and Nembhard back, and a pick as well.

I was surprised how little traction this got. IND is sixth in the East, so the thought was that they’d want to maintain Hield and McConnell. I get that they’ve done well so far, but does this swap really keep them out of the playoffs? And wouldn’t they prefer to get playoff experience for their young players, not the 30 year old Hield and McConnell? Next year they really profit too. Head scratcher for me - I like the deal for both sides.

I mean how many trades has the trade board ever gotten close to predicting?