2022-2023 Regular Season Game 40: Orlando Magic (14-25) at Golden State Warriors (20-19) - 8:30pm

[VFX]

Fultz and Cole: 32 pts, 12 reb, 12 ast vs. 3 TO in 61 minutes.

Looked pretty good against Poole and Divencenzo.

[pepe1991]

Magic doing better than Europien server of Real Gm.
Basically impossible to log in for day and half

[AaronB]

GSW were build around guards, we are being built around forwards. Outside all of that we have exactly someone like Iguodala just in the backcourt. Its Suggs. Athletic, strong, good passer for a combo guard and suspect shooter.
We need a shooter and perimeter creator. Lillard contract doesnt hurt us much becouse Franz and Paolo are on rookie deals.
I would much rather have Lillard than dead salary of Bamba, Isaac, Fultz.

No thanks to Lillard. He's not a good defender and a bad fit with Paolo and Franz. Boston is built around forwards.

I don't want to be like Portland.

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I think that's absolutely insane. Lillard is a superstar. If there is a senerio where you could pair Franz, Paolo and Dam on the same team ( and there isn't) you trade anything on the roster needed to make that happen. Suggs, Fultz, Bol, Cole, WCjr, multiple picks. Whatever. You not just gonna draft the next Dam Lillard. I mean you might but its unlikely. But obviously this is fantasy. In the real worl Portland is not trading Dam. And if they were it would require Franz in the deal. Franz, Bol, Suggs, Wcjr and a crap load of picks would be the deal in real life. Portland might say no deal to even that

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Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

[Def Swami]

Enjoyed how aggressive Wagner was in the 2nd quarter with the bench unit. We need that consistently with Banchero on the bench.

[thelead]

No thanks to Lillard. He's not a good defender and a bad fit with Paolo and Franz. Boston is built around forwards.

I don't want to be like Portland.

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I think that's absolutely insane. Lillard is a superstar. If there is a senerio where you could pair Franz, Paolo and Dam on the same team ( and there isn't) you trade anything on the roster needed to make that happen. Suggs, Fultz, Bol, Cole, WCjr, multiple picks. Whatever. You not just gonna draft the next Dam Lillard. I mean you might but its unlikely. But obviously this is fantasy. In the real worl Portland is not trading Dam. And if they were it would require Franz in the deal. Franz, Bol, Suggs, Wcjr and a crap load of picks would be the deal in real life. Portland might say no deal to even that

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Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

It would cost too much to get Lillard but he is a deadly shooter that would compliment Franz and Paolo really well. He doesn't fit with the timeline either but in a hypothetical world where we get him for cheap, yeah, he works due to his shooting abilities.

[thelead]

Enjoyed how aggressive Wagner was in the 2nd quarter with the bench unit. We need that consistently with Banchero on the bench.

I loved Banchero taking the lead with the starters and Franz/Suggs being the focus with the second unit. That rotation looks pretty damn good.

[IllMagic04]

No thanks to Lillard. He's not a good defender and a bad fit with Paolo and Franz. Boston is built around forwards.

I don't want to be like Portland.

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I think that's absolutely insane. Lillard is a superstar. If there is a senerio where you could pair Franz, Paolo and Dam on the same team ( and there isn't) you trade anything on the roster needed to make that happen. Suggs, Fultz, Bol, Cole, WCjr, multiple picks. Whatever. You not just gonna draft the next Dam Lillard. I mean you might but its unlikely. But obviously this is fantasy. In the real worl Portland is not trading Dam. And if they were it would require Franz in the deal. Franz, Bol, Suggs, Wcjr and a crap load of picks would be the deal in real life. Portland might say no deal to even that

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Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

That's not correct. You don't need a bunch of good players. You need superstars surounded with good complimentary pieces. The hard part of that equation is getting the superstar. Dam is a superstar. The idea that you wouldn't do a trade to get him that does not include Paolo or Franz is insane.

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[eyriq]

Enjoyed how aggressive Wagner was in the 2nd quarter with the bench unit. We need that consistently with Banchero on the bench.

I loved Banchero taking the lead with the starters and Franz/Suggs being the focus with the second unit. That rotation looks pretty damn good.

Yes it did. Mosley continues to develop talent and construct rotations at an elite coaching level. I want to see some growth with in-game tactics but he is really doing a hell of a job.

[AaronB]

I think that's absolutely insane. Lillard is a superstar. If there is a senerio where you could pair Franz, Paolo and Dam on the same team ( and there isn't) you trade anything on the roster needed to make that happen. Suggs, Fultz, Bol, Cole, WCjr, multiple picks. Whatever. You not just gonna draft the next Dam Lillard. I mean you might but its unlikely. But obviously this is fantasy. In the real worl Portland is not trading Dam. And if they were it would require Franz in the deal. Franz, Bol, Suggs, Wcjr and a crap load of picks would be the deal in real life. Portland might say no deal to even that

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Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

That's not correct. You don't need a bunch of good players. You need superstars surounded with good complimentary pieces. The hard part of that equation is getting the superstar. Dam is a superstar. The idea that you wouldn't do a trade to get him that does not include Paolo or Franz is insane.

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Then we will agree to disagree.

I think that getting an end-of-career (yet still amazing) PG who pounds the rock is not the kind of player that makes the Magic better.

I like Lillard. He has had a great career and has had moments of magnificence that few can rival.

I think that the deferring and very tough Fultz is a better match for Paolo and Franz, even though Fultz is not nearly the player that Dame is.

I think that both Paolo and Franz have the chance to be special and they need to be fed, not have them watch Dame getting fed.

[basketballRob]

I think that's absolutely insane. Lillard is a superstar. If there is a senerio where you could pair Franz, Paolo and Dam on the same team ( and there isn't) you trade anything on the roster needed to make that happen. Suggs, Fultz, Bol, Cole, WCjr, multiple picks. Whatever. You not just gonna draft the next Dam Lillard. I mean you might but its unlikely. But obviously this is fantasy. In the real worl Portland is not trading Dam. And if they were it would require Franz in the deal. Franz, Bol, Suggs, Wcjr and a crap load of picks would be the deal in real life. Portland might say no deal to even that

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Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

That's not correct. You don't need a bunch of good players. You need superstars surounded with good complimentary pieces. The hard part of that equation is getting the superstar. Dam is a superstar. The idea that you wouldn't do a trade to get him that does not include Paolo or Franz is insane.

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He looks like he's lost a little to me and is still owed $300M. I'd take Kyrie over him and he's a free agent .

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[Husky1]

Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

That's not correct. You don't need a bunch of good players. You need superstars surounded with good complimentary pieces. The hard part of that equation is getting the superstar. Dam is a superstar. The idea that you wouldn't do a trade to get him that does not include Paolo or Franz is insane.

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Then we will agree to disagree.

I think that getting an end-of-career (yet still amazing) PG who pounds the rock is not the kind of player that makes the Magic better.

I like Lillard. He has had a great career and has had moments of magnificence that few can rival.

I think that the deferring and very tough Fultz is a better match for Paolo and Franz, even though Fultz is not nearly the player that Dame is.

I think that both Paolo and Franz have the chance to be special and they need to be fed, not have them watch Dame getting fed.

The thing with going all in on a Dame or Beal type, is that it can all blow it up in your face as soon as they’re Injured, which they already are, they ain’t gonna go close to playing 75% of the games from here on out. The 50 million salary plus all the assets you give up it’s the best way to ruin the rebuild. The only player I would go all in for is Booker. Other than him, stay the course and draft two guards this draft and keep building organically. We need to keep the depth.

[MagicFan101]

I think that's absolutely insane. Lillard is a superstar. If there is a senerio where you could pair Franz, Paolo and Dam on the same team ( and there isn't) you trade anything on the roster needed to make that happen. Suggs, Fultz, Bol, Cole, WCjr, multiple picks. Whatever. You not just gonna draft the next Dam Lillard. I mean you might but its unlikely. But obviously this is fantasy. In the real worl Portland is not trading Dam. And if they were it would require Franz in the deal. Franz, Bol, Suggs, Wcjr and a crap load of picks would be the deal in real life. Portland might say no deal to even that

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Repeat after me:

Better Players =/= more wins

Once you have enough really good players, you surround them with good complimentary players.

The Magic have enough really good players.

I like the team the Magic have.

That's not correct. You don't need a bunch of good players. You need superstars surounded with good complimentary pieces. The hard part of that equation is getting the superstar. Dam is a superstar. The idea that you wouldn't do a trade to get him that does not include Paolo or Franz is insane.

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The cost of adding Lilliard right now versus what you would we actually be getting back is just not worth it to this team / roster.

He’s not going to play every night, he’s still battling injuries and what if he starts missing serious time? He’s still owed over $200M on his deal.

We’re staring at a guard heavy draft with some prized prospects in it of which we could have 2 lottery picks. This is NOT the time to talk about panic trades for aging star guards.

[Knightro]

Fred VanVleet at age 28 turning 29 is on the very edge of the limits of fitting into the competitive window for the Magic.

Lillard is four years older than that and has 4 years, 216M left on his contract, almost double what someone like FVV will end up resigning for.

Dame is still a great player, but not a fit with the age of the Magic's existing roster IMO.