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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Karanpal wrote:Rayan Rupert is my early pick looks very interesting as a prospect.
Yeah, always tough to judge these NBL prospects. Seems like a good defender at the very least.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
Psubs wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Karanpal wrote:Rayan Rupert is my early pick looks very interesting as a prospect.
Yeah, always tough to judge these NBL prospects. Seems like a good defender at the very least.
To me he's like Matisse Thybulle with a better handles to play SG.
JShuttlesworth wrote:I would love to get another FRP and get Jett Howard
He's one of my favourites if we're drafting in the 10-16 range
TorontoBarneys wrote:I'm super high on Amen. I might even take him over Scoot.
JShuttlesworth wrote:^ bad take
Rapsfan07 wrote:TorontoBarneys wrote:I'm super high on Amen. I might even take him over Scoot.
Whew that's a hot take.
I like him...a lot. I'm just not sure how well he will translate to the NBA.
BUT I think he has a chance to be special if he can make his 3s
gojoorange wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:TorontoBarneys wrote:I'm super high on Amen. I might even take him over Scoot.
Whew that's a hot take.
I like him...a lot. I'm just not sure how well he will translate to the NBA.
BUT I think he has a chance to be special if he can make his 3s
The shot looks like it needs a lot of work.
Los_29 wrote:JShuttlesworth wrote:^ bad take
Still too early to say. But many scouts are still not sure how to evaluate the draft after Wemby and Scoot. There is still a lot of basketball to be played though so it's hard to say whether or not this draft is stacked. We know it's got two elite prospects at the top. That's the only thing we know at this point.
Kevin Willis wrote:Los_29 wrote:JShuttlesworth wrote:^ bad take
Still too early to say. But many scouts are still not sure how to evaluate the draft after Wemby and Scoot. There is still a lot of basketball to be played though so it's hard to say whether or not this draft is stacked. We know it's got two elite prospects at the top. That's the only thing we know at this point.
The best way to answer that question is to Tier up. How you name the tier doesn't matter as much as classifying it into different levels. Here's a sample Tier system
Tier 1 (MVP Caliber/ Superstar)
Tier 2 (All NBA / Perennial All-Star)
Tier 3 (All Star)
Tier 4 (Lotto Talent / High level Role Player/ 3rd - 4th best player on a team)
Tier 5 (Starter)
Tier 6 (Rotation player / Role Player)
Tier 7 (Rest in the NBA)
The players after 1 are fluid and not very defined but that always happens. Looking at the number of players though, this year roughly.
2023
T1 - 2, T2 - 2, T3 - 4, T4 - 5, T6 - 10 -20
2022
T1 - 0, T2 - 2, T3 - 3, T4 -
2021
T1 - 0, T2 - 3, T3 -1, T4 - 2
Not motivated to do more but it's obvious that 2021 was a bad draft year by tier. 2022 was better. This year though is special.
Note: 2020 not much better than 2021 with Edwards, Wiseman, Bell, Williams and Okoro. None of those guys are making all-star teams. One of the best from that draft is Bane.
Los_29 wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:Los_29 wrote:
Still too early to say. But many scouts are still not sure how to evaluate the draft after Wemby and Scoot. There is still a lot of basketball to be played though so it's hard to say whether or not this draft is stacked. We know it's got two elite prospects at the top. That's the only thing we know at this point.
The best way to answer that question is to Tier up. How you name the tier doesn't matter as much as classifying it into different levels. Here's a sample Tier system
Tier 1 (MVP Caliber/ Superstar)
Tier 2 (All NBA / Perennial All-Star)
Tier 3 (All Star)
Tier 4 (Lotto Talent / High level Role Player/ 3rd - 4th best player on a team)
Tier 5 (Starter)
Tier 6 (Rotation player / Role Player)
Tier 7 (Rest in the NBA)
The players after 1 are fluid and not very defined but that always happens. Looking at the number of players though, this year roughly.
2023
T1 - 2, T2 - 2, T3 - 4, T4 - 5, T6 - 10 -20
2022
T1 - 0, T2 - 2, T3 - 3, T4 -
2021
T1 - 0, T2 - 3, T3 -1, T4 - 2
Not motivated to do more but it's obvious that 2021 was a bad draft year by tier. 2022 was better. This year though is special.
Note: 2020 not much better than 2021 with Edwards, Wiseman, Bell, Williams and Okoro. None of those guys are making all-star teams. One of the best from that draft is Bane.
The problem with previous drafts is we have the benefit of hindsight. I like your tier classification though.
Who are the two players in this upcoming draft in your tier 2?
gojoorange wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:TorontoBarneys wrote:I'm super high on Amen. I might even take him over Scoot.
Whew that's a hot take.
I like him...a lot. I'm just not sure how well he will translate to the NBA.
BUT I think he has a chance to be special if he can make his 3s
The shot looks like it needs a lot of work.
Kevin Willis wrote:Los_29 wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:
The best way to answer that question is to Tier up. How you name the tier doesn't matter as much as classifying it into different levels. Here's a sample Tier system
Tier 1 (MVP Caliber/ Superstar)
Tier 2 (All NBA / Perennial All-Star)
Tier 3 (All Star)
Tier 4 (Lotto Talent / High level Role Player/ 3rd - 4th best player on a team)
Tier 5 (Starter)
Tier 6 (Rotation player / Role Player)
Tier 7 (Rest in the NBA)
The players after 1 are fluid and not very defined but that always happens. Looking at the number of players though, this year roughly.
2023
T1 - 2, T2 - 2, T3 - 4, T4 - 5, T6 - 10 -20
2022
T1 - 0, T2 - 2, T3 - 3, T4 -
2021
T1 - 0, T2 - 3, T3 -1, T4 - 2
Not motivated to do more but it's obvious that 2021 was a bad draft year by tier. 2022 was better. This year though is special.
Note: 2020 not much better than 2021 with Edwards, Wiseman, Bell, Williams and Okoro. None of those guys are making all-star teams. One of the best from that draft is Bane.
The problem with previous drafts is we have the benefit of hindsight. I like your tier classification though.
Who are the two players in this upcoming draft in your tier 2?
Right now 2 of either Amen, Nick Smith or Brandon Miller but that will probably change. Nick Smith because he can have an Iverson like impact on a team. Amen - McGrady like impact. If Brandon Miller keeps improving - Rashard Lewis. It's fluid so in two weeks I might change my mind.
Your right about hindsight but the last few years we sort of knew there were no superstars. That's why VW looks so good, it's been years since we have seen a superstar talent.
God Squad wrote:I don't think I've seen one game from NS where I'm like "yeah, he's a lotto lock". If anything every game (before he shut it down) I was left wondering wtf made him one of the top recruits. Like I get he's coming back from injury, but show something before shutting it down( Whitmore). Now I know he'll likely be a lotto pick due to RSCI pre ranking, but like Lively I've been left unimpressed.