Game 42: Sixers @ Jazz - Wooder Ice vs. Jell-O

[UptownPhilly]

Maxey for Clarkson?

If im trading Maxey, im trading him for someone we can upgrade Tucker or Tobias for. Im comfortable with Milton or Melton with Harden.

This. We should be in hurry to move him. He’s still got plenty of room to grow, fills a position of need, and has a great attitude and work ethic. However, if we could get a young star player at SF, it’s a no brainer (Ingram, Brown, Siakam, etc.)

[Bum Adebayo]

Maxey's defensive issues are not worth what he can bring on offense at times. If his value is still relatively high, you'd have to be a moron not to trade him, but of course I expect nothing less from this incompetent FO, holding onto mediocre assets for too long and then selling very low has been our memo for a while.
If we had a player with more value at the time in Simmons and still did nothing to trade him when his value was at his highest, what makes you think we are going to do the right thing with Maxey? nothing of course, we will **** up as usual.

[76ciology]

Cruise mode make the game close, rinse and repeat

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[Negrodamus]

Clarkson is our kryptonite. It’s so strange/funny to me.

[76ciology]

Clarkson is our kryptonite. It’s so strange/funny to me.

21-4-4 on 57TS% for the season. Jazz has a lot of top guys who’s exposed on clutch situations (JC, Markkanen and Beasley). Its Jazz way of pumping the value of these assets and telling the buyers that its not artificial.

[Jay555]

I knew the Maxey backlash was coming but it’s still a bummer. I mostly resent the idea that we finally have a talented, unproblematic homegrown guard that we will immediately chase out of town because he’s not a fit next to an aging James Harden (my least fav player before he came to Philly). I hate it.

Fact of the matter is that we have 2 stars who haven’t delivered the goods in the playoffs their entire careers who are also moody drama queens who have bad leadership qualities. I’m not going to pretend like that’s going to change by trading away our only future building block.

You sound butt hurt because your boy Maxey was getting bashed. If Maxey‘s fit Or defense issue gets in the way of this team winning a chip, trading him for a star wing would absolutely need to be considered. Philly is in win now mode and has not got much time.

[kuclas]

Maxey's defensive issues are not worth what he can bring on offense at times. If his value is still relatively high, you'd have to be a moron not to trade him, but of course I expect nothing less from this incompetent FO, holding onto mediocre assets for too long and then selling very low has been our memo for a while.
If we had a player with more value at the time in Simmons and still did nothing to trade him when his value was at his highest, what makes you think we are going to do the right thing with Maxey? nothing of course, we will **** up as usual.

Simmons was asked in a trade for K Leonard. But K Leonard was expiring contract. No way you can risk trading a 22 year old Simmons at the time with essentially 7 years left in team controlled (including rookie extension option) for expiring contract. So I wouldn’t say we held on to Simmons

As for maxey. Teams wanted maxey as center piece in in the Lowry plus draft picks for a rental. Or a throw in for harden rockets trade with Simmons as center piece.

[Jailblazers7]

I knew the Maxey backlash was coming but it’s still a bummer. I mostly resent the idea that we finally have a talented, unproblematic homegrown guard that we will immediately chase out of town because he’s not a fit next to an aging James Harden (my least fav player before he came to Philly). I hate it.

Fact of the matter is that we have 2 stars who haven’t delivered the goods in the playoffs their entire careers who are also moody drama queens who have bad leadership qualities. I’m not going to pretend like that’s going to change by trading away our only future building block.

You sound butt hurt because your boy Maxey was getting bashed. If Maxey‘s fit Or defense issue gets in the way of this team winning a chip, trading him for a star wing would absolutely need to be considered. Philly is in win now mode and has not got much time.

I fully admit to having hurt feelings. I love Maxey but even I can admit he’s a bad defender and the fit is awkward right not. Depending on the trade, I’m sure I’d come around on it eventually.

I just find it frustrating that we’re ready to give up on Maxey so quickly. Maxey is too small, Harden openly quits on defense half the time, Doc has no imagination. So our solution is to trade away our best young talent because we’ve had 2 bad games.

[Murray_17]

Maxey is a bad defender, yes. But if you look at the games and walk away saying Maxey is responsible of how bad defense the team is playing lately, you're likely blind.

[Jay555]

I knew the Maxey backlash was coming but it’s still a bummer. I mostly resent the idea that we finally have a talented, unproblematic homegrown guard that we will immediately chase out of town because he’s not a fit next to an aging James Harden (my least fav player before he came to Philly). I hate it.

Fact of the matter is that we have 2 stars who haven’t delivered the goods in the playoffs their entire careers who are also moody drama queens who have bad leadership qualities. I’m not going to pretend like that’s going to change by trading away our only future building block.

You sound butt hurt because your boy Maxey was getting bashed. If Maxey‘s fit Or defense issue gets in the way of this team winning a chip, trading him for a star wing would absolutely need to be considered. Philly is in win now mode and has not got much time.

I fully admit to having hurt feelings. I love Maxey but even I can admit he’s a bad defender and the fit is awkward right not. Depending on the trade, I’m sure I’d come around on it eventually.

I just find it frustrating that we’re ready to give up on Maxey so quickly. Maxey is too small, Harden openly quits on defense half the time, Doc has no imagination. So our solution is to trade away our best young talent because we’ve had 2 bad games.

To be honest, I would only trade Maxey if a star wing comes along which is unlikely anyways.

I agree it’s up to the coach to fix the fit issues. With a good coach, it may actually work but Doc is Doc so there is that..

[Bum Adebayo]

Maxey is a bad defender, yes. But if you look at the games and walk away saying Maxey is responsible of how bad defense the team is playing lately, you're likely blind.

It would be nice if he was just a bad defender, the problem is that he is just atrocious, he is in the D'Angelo Russell and Trae Young group of turnstile and traffic cone like defense.

[mjkvol]

I agree it’s up to the coach to fix the fit issues. With a good coach, it may actually work but Doc is Doc so there is that..

Outside of hating the idea of trading away a young, homegrown talent who wants to be here, this is why I am most against trading Maxey. A competent coach would find a way to fit an explosive offensive player like Maxey into this rotation that maximizes what he does best and hides his defensive flaws.

The fact that it would even be a thought to move Maxey for a veteran who somehow was a better fit with Glenn's "plan", whatever that might be, is infuriating. If it's for Kevin Durant or someone on that level, fine, because it's going to take someone like that to carry Glenn's useless ass beyond the second round.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm not in favor AT ALL of moving Maxey for a better fit. That type of thinking is extremely short sighted. I don't like the idea of trading with Toronto at all. Siakam maybe and that's about it. Does Maxey need to be traded? Short answer is no! Would I personally trade him for a Star player that wants a change of scenery? Yes...Absolutely. Currently looking at the standings, rosters, etc I don't see anything that would work at the moment. The league is still kind of wide open outside of a few crappy teams and they don't really have anything that I would move him for. Not unless Houston all of a sudden wants to give us Jalen Green which I highly doubt. If Maxey gets moved, it'll be in the offseason, but I still don't think it's a good idea unless the offer blows us away. Pascal Siakam is the only player I can realistically see us making a play for and we all know how frugal Toronto is. They're going to want a Kings ransom for him. No, this is on Doc Rivers to make this situation work.

[Bum Adebayo]

Of course you would trade him for a star player, because Maxey is no star, so you only want to trade him if it's a lopsided trade in our favor.

[rocketsfan100]

Unless you are getting a legitimate all star why would you trade a 21 year old who can give you 22 a night? His defense is bad granted but you can hide him with having Melton playing alongside him more or use him as a sixth man.


Plus there is no guarantees harden will be back next season so you will need Maxey to replace him as the second banana if he is not back

[Mik317]

just tired of "trade this guy" being the only solution people seem to have.

Maxey is small and even if he tries hard on defense...he will never be a plus at it more than likely (never truly bet against his work ethic tho)...

however lost in all of this is the fact that it was Melton getting lit the **** up by Clarkson for most of the night....

I think our defense isn't on one guy being back but rather the lineups overall...during that stretch...Doc had to play Tiise and House more for example...in which our scheme is at its best because its harder to target guys. Harden doesnt like to switch, Maxey is tiny, PJ is washed and Tobias is a wildcard...Biid has been in foul trouble and this less agressive as well.

See thats a quick brainstorm to see why the defense fell off (a large part is that teams are hitting shots that they were missing IMO) rather than "welp time to trade someone the moment any conflict arises.

Yeah if you can get a young wing with some upside that "fits" better than Maxey...sure go for it....just doing it to fix this **** roster is the kind of short sighted bull that has left us with no assets and no real future.

Keep saying it but I am not interested in salvaging this season. Morey's moves in the offseason was buns and keeping Doc around was also an anchor IMO... IDK Maxey's true upside...unlike some of yall crystal ball havers. BUT I do know that flaws and all, he is a guy worth keeping if only due to his attitude and approach he has shown in his first few years. People are shook by Ben's lack of development I get it but Maxey's year one to two shows that he is not the same kinda kid IMO.... I'll bet on that over saving a season that isn't really worth it IMO

[mjkvol]

Keep saying it but I am not interested in salvaging this season. Morey's moves in the offseason was buns and keeping Doc around was also an anchor IMO.

Exactly. This is not a championship level team, and the presence of Rivers cements that fact. As said earlier, unless Maxey is somehow moved for a Durant or SGA, the needle will not move for this team enough to make it a serious title contender.

It isn't going to happen because Morey is as culpable as Rivers, and even more so when you consider he could have made a coaching change after last season, but preparing for next season now would be the smartest play.

Fire Rivers and get whatever value possible for Harris, Thybulle, and Korkmaz right now - I would argue that any effect those moves would have on this season would likely be positive, but regardless, planning early to maximize the next couple of seasons is the smart play. And for that reason alone there's no shot of Sixers ever doing so.