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2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#241 » by sam_I_am » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:37 pm

Hal14 wrote:The next KD ?

You won't find this guy in any mocks so a potential 2nd round sleeper..

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That looks like a guy who could rise up the mock drafts after the combine. I know it’s hard to tell from a few highlights how good somebody really is but that kind of mobility and ability to finish well above the rim is intriguing.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#242 » by 165bows » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:19 pm

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Edey had 32 and 17 today. I watched that game. He missed a lot of close shots but still had a really good game, including the game winning shot.

Edey's conditioning looks really improved from last year. He is like Kornet, expect bigger and a lot strong, especially in the lower body. Edey also had really good footwork down in the block and has a nice touch when he isn't rushing his shot. He doesn't have 3 point range like Kornet, but he is a good FT shooter at 75%.

I'm a big (pun intended) Edey guy, he was a guy I was interested in last year. Doing the same thing in a much bigger role. One thing we know is Brad likes guys that are strong - too many years getting pushed around by A list recruits while he was at Butler with the under dogs. People were worried about Edey's conditioning, but it looks like it's going the other way - he's wearing teams out with his size and physicality.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#243 » by Hal14 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:36 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
Hal14 wrote:The next KD ?

You won't find this guy in any mocks so a potential 2nd round sleeper..

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That looks like a guy who could rise up the mock drafts after the combine. I know it’s hard to tell from a few highlights how good somebody really is but that kind of mobility and ability to finish well above the rim is intriguing.

Yeah, he's worth keeping an eye on. But I dove into a little bit of his actual game film and he looked meh, wasn't even in the game in crunch time. Sometimes highlights make a guy look better haha.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#244 » by sam_I_am » Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:19 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:
Hal14 wrote:The next KD ?

You won't find this guy in any mocks so a potential 2nd round sleeper..

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That looks like a guy who could rise up the mock drafts after the combine. I know it’s hard to tell from a few highlights how good somebody really is but that kind of mobility and ability to finish well above the rim is intriguing.

Yeah, he's worth keeping an eye on. But I dove into a little bit of his actual game film and he looked meh, wasn't even in the game in crunch time. Sometimes highlights make a guy look better haha.


He is a junior already but maybe he could be a Paskal Siakam or Dennis Rodman type in that he learned the game late and is just delayed in his development. Given size, hops, handle there is draftable talent there. Kansas State is also having a very good year and he is rebounding and blocking shots for them. If the Celtics could grab a talent like that with a second round pick I would be beyond excited.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#245 » by 165bows » Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:07 pm

Hal14 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Hal14 wrote:The next KD ?

You won't find this guy in any mocks so a potential 2nd round sleeper..

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That looks like a guy who could rise up the mock drafts after the combine. I know it’s hard to tell from a few highlights how good somebody really is but that kind of mobility and ability to finish well above the rim is intriguing.

Yeah, he's worth keeping an eye on. But I dove into a little bit of his actual game film and he looked meh, wasn't even in the game in crunch time. Sometimes highlights make a guy look better haha.

Looks like a great sleeper imo. Problem with shooting highlights is it doesn't say anything about overall shooting consistency (my criticism about Wemby for a year when he wasn't a good shooter from 3 or FT - until recently with FTs - despite highlights). Looks like this guy is hitting 28% from 3, so isn't some lock as a shooter. Someone with that size and energy level and athleticism putting up those steal and block numbers is worth looking at in the second round as a sleeper for sure, but it's just a matter of what are the expectations.
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Post#246 » by sam_I_am » Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:20 am

Thanks to Hal I watched KS vs KS ST and what a great! Tomlinson made a great defensive play at end that almost won it in regulation. Going into OT.
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Post#247 » by Wes-J » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:25 pm

We have no chance at any of these guys come on lol.
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Post#248 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:44 pm

Wes-J wrote:We have no chance at any of these guys come on lol.

Huh? We have 3 2nd round picks and everyone being discussed (besides the occasional post about Wembanyama) is about guys who could go 2nd round..
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Post#249 » by Wes-J » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:48 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Wes-J wrote:We have no chance at any of these guys come on lol.

Huh? We have 3 2nd round picks and everyone being discussed (besides the occasional post about Wembanyama) is about guys who could go 2nd round..


2nd Rd picks. Ok
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Post#250 » by themoneyteam2 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:49 pm

The talent in CBB just keeps declining. It's honestly sad now. Used to be filled with good players and now there are also not as many impact freshman. Seems like AAU culture is killing the future of this sport
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Post#251 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:39 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Wes-J wrote:We have no chance at any of these guys come on lol.

Huh? We have 3 2nd round picks and everyone being discussed (besides the occasional post about Wembanyama) is about guys who could go 2nd round..

Tankathon has DaRon Holmes getting taken with the first Boston 2nd. Sounds great but I don’t think he’s going to actually last that long lol. Check out the interview on The Athletic with his film breakdown, really good. Sounds like a great really professional kid.
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Post#252 » by Hal14 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:23 am

I'm still liking Adama Sanogo and Coleman Hawkins as potential long term Horford replacements who can play either the 4 or the 5, play solid D, score inside, hit some 3's, move the ball, etc.

Both guys who should be on Brad's radar..

Both will be 21 on draft night. So from age 21 to 23 they can be mentored by Al and then by age 23, they're ready to step in to the rotation..
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Post#253 » by Hal14 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:29 am

A couple other guys I like. Bryce Hopkins (someone else mentioned him earlier in the thread) and Olivier-Maxence Prosper.

They went head to head the other night:


Both project as 4's in the NBA. They went at each other in this game and they both looked good. Both are guys to keep an eye on as potential 2nd round targets.

Prosper reminds me a little bit of Siakam. Hopkins is hard to come up with a comp for, but he's just good. He seems to be a little bit tougher/strong/more physical than Prosper. Prosper has that spin move though, like Siakam..
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Post#254 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:35 pm

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Post#255 » by Hal14 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:30 pm

He's an older prospect. He missed the entire season last year. And there may be some health issues (which caused him to miss a whole season).

BUT

You watch this footage and tell me this isn't the kind of guy we could really use coming off the bench as a wing with some size, strength who can take you off the dribble, shoot it from deep, have some athleticism, play some D and plays with a toughness/edge to him..makes some good passes in this video too and even has a smooth floater.

Shooting 40% from 3 on 3 attempts per game.

6'6", 230 lbs. 6'11" wingspan with a 41" vertical leap.

A guy to watch out for as a potential 2nd rounder..

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Post#256 » by 165bows » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:22 am

Hal14 wrote:He's an older prospect. He missed the entire season last year. And there may be some health issues (which caused him to miss a whole season).

BUT

You watch this footage and tell me this isn't the kind of guy we could really use coming off the bench as a wing with some size, strength who can take you off the dribble, shoot it from deep, have some athleticism, play some D and plays with a toughness/edge to him..makes some good passes in this video too and even has a smooth floater.

Shooting 40% from 3 on 3 attempts per game.

6'6", 230 lbs. 6'11" wingspan with a 41" vertical leap.

A guy to watch out for as a potential 2nd rounder..

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Cool will take a look.

Tankathon has Jaylen Clark from UCLA going at 38 where Boston now sits. Haven’t followed him but looking briefly he reminds me so much of Jordan Adams from a few years back who I was convinced was an amazing sleeper lol. Missed on that one and totally forgot how 100% sure I was he was under rated.
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Post#257 » by 165bows » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:29 am

Obviously not a comp in terms of ceiling or a projection, but that Johnson ^ has a little bit of a Jimmy Butler style to him in terms of physicality and play style.
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Post#258 » by Hal14 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:38 am

165bows wrote:
Hal14 wrote:He's an older prospect. He missed the entire season last year. And there may be some health issues (which caused him to miss a whole season).

BUT

You watch this footage and tell me this isn't the kind of guy we could really use coming off the bench as a wing with some size, strength who can take you off the dribble, shoot it from deep, have some athleticism, play some D and plays with a toughness/edge to him..makes some good passes in this video too and even has a smooth floater.

Shooting 40% from 3 on 3 attempts per game.

6'6", 230 lbs. 6'11" wingspan with a 41" vertical leap.

A guy to watch out for as a potential 2nd rounder..

Read on Twitter

Cool will take a look.

Tankathon has Jaylen Clark from UCLA going at 38 where Boston now sits. Haven’t followed him but looking briefly he reminds me so much of Jordan Adams from a few years back who I was convinced was an amazing sleeper lol. Missed on that one and totally forgot how 100% sure I was he was under rated.

I like Jaylen Clark. Biggest thing with him is 2 things:

1) VERY quick. Some guys who are prospects, you're not sure if they will be quick enough to keep up with the faster pace in the NBA. I have zero concerns about that with Clark. For players who are 6'5" or taller, he's probably as quick as any of them in this draft (besides the Thompson twins, of course).

He uses that quickness for good. Unlike Nesmith who would run through a wall and go crazy hard that you're worried he's gonna hurt someone - and as a result, he would make mistakes on both ends of the floor cause he was so wild. Clark, I think goes fast and with high motor, while staying under control better

2) Crazy good steal %. Simply put, he's a ball hawk.

Offensively, he's a ;little limited. Decent at attacking closeouts, decent shooter (34%), ok passer, ok handles.

I'd give him a shot in the mid to late 2nd round and bank on his work ethic + Ben Sullivan's coaching to bring that 3 pt % up a little bit. Then he could have a solid career as a role player wing with high energy who can make plays on both ends of the floor.

There is a bit of overlap with him and Begarin, though..
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Post#259 » by 165bows » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:54 pm

Purdue now 36th overall on D, up from 208th last year. Taking a top 3 pick and an NBA camp invite Senior out of the starting lineup and that team has gotten way better. Edey train or bust.
Edit: So who we going to grab with the other seconds?
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Post#260 » by shackles10 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:15 pm

165bows wrote:Purdue now 36th overall on D, up from 208th last year. Taking a top 3 pick and an NBA camp invite Senior out of the starting lineup and that team has gotten way better. Edey train or bust.
Edit: So who we going to grab with the other seconds?


I’m 45 minutes from Purdue, but I’m just not sold on Edey as a pro. College basketball is just bad now though. The play and officiating has dropped off big time. There’s some good coaches for sure, but just as many who are only good recruiters. Even the guys who come in ready to make big NBA impacts aren’t making the same kind of impacts in NCAA anymore. It’s sad because I used to love college basketball as much or more than the NBA as a whole. Now I catch a few games beginning of the year, get burnt out until tourney time which is always special still at least (although even March Madness is forgettable once it’s over anymore it seems like).

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