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GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM)

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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#101 » by TGW » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:26 pm

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DCZards wrote:A “toxic environment?” What makes you believe that? Because a former player who left here bitter said so?

Quite frankly, I get the opposite impression. These Zards genuinely seem to like each other. And I haven’t seen any indication that they have a problem with Wes.

Yeah, guys aren’t always going to be happy with their minutes or roles…but that happens on every team.


There's an argument that can be made that the Wizards are a toxic environment. Wall and now Dinwiddie are speaking out against it. I'm sure if Westbrook was candid about it, he would agree with how the Wall and Dinwiddie describe things here. And there are rumors that Durant didn't want to come here directly because of management.

Wall was pissed when he got traded. He said as much in that recent interview. So how "toxic" could the environment have been?


Dude, Wall claimed that Beal knew beforehand that Wall was getting traded and pretended like he didn't know. That's why he was pissed. Re-watch the interview...he wasn't mad he was traded from the freakin Wizards (lol that's a reach), he was mad at how it happened. He said Sheppard and Beal lied to him and were colluding with each other. That, if true, is a toxic workplace environment.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#102 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:27 pm

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CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:I'm happy to see us play well, young guys play well and get a win against Dinwiddie, but let us not let our fan bias brush under the rug the toxic environment being fostered here, and how players are talking about it.

A “toxic environment?” What makes you believe that? Because a former player who left here bitter said so?

Quite frankly, I get the opposite impression. These Zards genuinely seem to like each other. And I haven’t seen any indication that they have a problem with Wes.

Yeah, guys aren’t always going to be happy with their minutes or roles…but that happens on every team.


So you ignored a good portion of the other stuff I spoke to, but okay.

Do you not believe we've seen players auditioning for contracts this season and the last? Do you think auditioning for contracts is the best approach or conversely the opposite approach to go out there, play a team brand of basketball, play the best you can (no that doesn't mean trying to accumulate the most gaudy counting stats every night) to produce wins, and the contracts will take care of themselves?

Of everything we know about Ted, and right now just thinking about Ted and his influence over the organization, do you think it is more likely that their is a great team environment or one that is toxic team environment? Based on Dinwiddie last season, the Montrezl issues last year, Kuzma taking subtle jabs at Beal last year, Rui this year, Kuzma and his free agency talk throughout the year, do you think it is all coincidence? Maybe they aren't things most players are going to talk about, especially less established players like Gafford, Deni, Kispert, Goodwin, Davis and so on, but to hum along and act as if the "Zards genuinely seem to like each other" is naïve.

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We don't have to have mutually exclusive opinions that A) Dinwiddie quickly identified that we have a toxic organizational culture where some players are allowed to put themselves above the team (we all know that why he didn't want to be here) and B) Dinwiddie handled the situation as poor as you could and dogged it here. They can both be true.

Putting our heads in the sand after a feel good win (which again it was great to see us play by-and-large a team oriented game, if only for a night) about the reality of things is basically ignoring what we've been watching year-after-year with this team.

We've turned into a franchise that is a cartel for players to get their next new big payday, if you think any differently, please share your rosy tinted glasses with me, because the current view is killing my eyes.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#103 » by TGW » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:31 pm

Have a half decent season with the Wizards on a contract year, and you GETTING PAID. It's that simple. We have enough historical evidence to show this to be true. SO yes, Dimwiddie is right (and full disclosure, I don't like that dude and was 100% against his signing).
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#104 » by JWizmentality » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:40 pm

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LMAO...I know it burns this man's soul. The butthurt is real.


I mean as a player this is probably not a good look for him, but is he not right about showcasing for contracts? We had to watch Beal do it last year (Montrezl too), Kuzma this year, also Porzingis this year albeit to a somewhat lesser degree. Guys coming off the bench just firing? That's Will Barton in a nut shell.

Again agree, he probably is not going to make friends in the league with statements like that. He also absolutely dogged it here last year, so I have little sympathy for him especially after getting a $60M contract after sitting out a year. But at the essence of what he's saying we all know to be true, that this team allows certain players to do thing that are: 1) not conducive to building a team culture and 2) where there are different tiers of accountability that eventually makes things toxic.

I'm happy to see us play well, young guys play well and get a win against Dinwiddie, but let us not let our fan bias brush under the rug the toxic environment being fostered here, and how players are talking about it. If it's frustrating to watch, I can only imagine it's pretty damn frustrating to be a member of the team and have to deal with favoritism where certain players are allowed to do whatever they want and get free rein of things. Guaranteed heavy minutes and 15+ shots unless you are maybe a handful of top 10 players in this league, which we don't have anything close to that, is a recipe for disaster. We are seeing it play out.


I don't think anybody here is saying that what Dimwittie said isn't true. He's just not the person who has the room to talk.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#105 » by WallToWall » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:40 pm

Dinwiddie’s views are at least a year old. Players, in large part, create the culture. Those players he talks about are gone. We’ve had a bit of turn-over since. Din didn’t have the best time here. He is gone too.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#106 » by GoneShammGone » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:51 pm

I have reconciled myself to the Kyle Kuzma experience. Shot jacking, wild spin moves, occasional buzzer beaters, turnovers, but the best twitter clap-backs and bobble-head game in the league. All things considered it could be worse.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#107 » by JWizmentality » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:52 pm

WallToWall wrote:Dinwiddie’s views are at least a year old. Players, in large part, create the culture. Those players he talks about are gone. We’ve had a bit of turn-over since. Din didn’t have the best time here. He is gone too.


Nah, the 250 mil dollar man is still here. There's a big pile of doggy doo in the middle of the room, and we're spraying air freshener.
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Post#108 » by montestewart » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:01 pm

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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#109 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:11 pm

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LMAO...I know it burns this man's soul. The butthurt is real.


I mean as a player this is probably not a good look for him, but is he not right about showcasing for contracts? We had to watch Beal do it last year (Montrezl too), Kuzma this year, also Porzingis this year albeit to a somewhat lesser degree. Guys coming off the bench just firing? That's Will Barton in a nut shell.

Again agree, he probably is not going to make friends in the league with statements like that. He also absolutely dogged it here last year, so I have little sympathy for him especially after getting a $60M contract after sitting out a year. But at the essence of what he's saying we all know to be true, that this team allows certain players to do thing that are: 1) not conducive to building a team culture and 2) where there are different tiers of accountability that eventually makes things toxic.

I'm happy to see us play well, young guys play well and get a win against Dinwiddie, but let us not let our fan bias brush under the rug the toxic environment being fostered here, and how players are talking about it. If it's frustrating to watch, I can only imagine it's pretty damn frustrating to be a member of the team and have to deal with favoritism where certain players are allowed to do whatever they want and get free rein of things. Guaranteed heavy minutes and 15+ shots unless you are maybe a handful of top 10 players in this league, which we don't have anything close to that, is a recipe for disaster. We are seeing it play out.


I don't think anybody here is saying that what Dimwittie said isn't true. He's just not the person who has the room to talk.


No, no,I think some folks are, and you can see comments in this thread, saying explicitly that it isn't true.

And at this point, somebody has got to talk, because it sure the hell seems that no one in power in this organization will (which is obvious to why that's the case). So if it has to be death by a thousand leaks, so be it. Don't kill the messenger on this one, you can dislike Dinwiddie, but don't use ad hominem to distract or detract from what he is saying.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#110 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:47 pm

I mean, let's be real, it's a business, and it's these players livelihoods we're talking about. Of course they're playing for their next contract. That's the way it's always been and always will be. And that's especially been the case with Dinwiddie - be it in cash or bitcoins.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#111 » by Ruzious » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:47 pm

I mean, let's be real, it's a business, and it's these players livelihoods we're talking about. Of course they're playing for their next contract. That's the way it's always been and always will be. And that's especially been the case with Dinwiddie - be it in cash or bitcoins.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#112 » by DCZards » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:28 pm

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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#113 » by DCZards » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:29 pm

I don’t take issue with what Dinwiddie has said about his experience as a Zard. I’ll take him at his word that he was unhappy. He reportedly didn’t get along with some teammates…and I recall him having some issues with Wes.

But there’s every indication that Dinwiddie’s attitude was a big part of the problem.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#114 » by Kanyewest » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:32 pm

Wizards need to acquire more players that think the Wizards are dysfunctional. They have so far netted two of the more favorable trades that they have made since Shepherd has taken over.
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Post#115 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:20 pm

Ruzious wrote:I mean, let's be real, it's a business, and it's these players livelihoods we're talking about. Of course they're playing for their next contract. That's the way it's always been and always will be. And that's especially been the case with Dinwiddie - be it in cash or bitcoins.


Cop out, apologist speak. No one said they aren't of course playing for contract, the issue is letting players go about it in a way that A) doesn't lead to wins and B) is a detriment to team chemistry.
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Re: GT #47: Bullets @ Mavs 8 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) 

Post#117 » by AFM » Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:40 pm

Dude is maybe the most unlikable guy in the league. What a complete moron. Pro tip: you can’t talk **** after losing (and getting swept).
By the way, he’s not exactly Larry Bird either.
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Post#118 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 3, 2023 2:12 am

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JWizmentality wrote:How much better would we be if we had say a closer like Gil instead of Beal?


My new opinion and a reference from like 2015:

YEARS AGO, WHEN JOHN WALL was at his best, I posted this is Beal’s team moving forward. I thought Beal was more face of franchise and he’d be the owner favorite. This is when a lot wanted Beal traded. (I despised Beal missing 81 games over his rookie deal and I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT HE WOULD MISS MANY GAMES). However, I was thoroughly correct about Beal becoming The Man. Don’t ask me how or why. Intuition

Now? The Wizards SHOULD PAY KUZMA THE $20-25 Mil as long as he’s happy to be in DC.

He fits. He fills all the intangibles. He’s as solid as Beal. I like him better as a leader and he’s an Alpha. Not anywhere near as talented a player as BB imo but Kuzma is a Flintstone.

Keep that kid. Give him his bag..


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Yup, I definitely still feel the same way!

Nice to see the stability since the Rui trade...

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