Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

dgr81 · Post #321 » by **dgr81** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:54 am

Bulls biggest mistake was the Vuc trade.

djsunyc · Post #322 » by **djsunyc** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:56 am

dgr81 wrote:Bulls biggest mistake was the Vuc trade.

they couldn't anticipate what happened with lonzo.

agkagk · Post #323 » by **agkagk** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:58 am

djsunyc wrote:
dgr81 wrote:Bulls biggest mistake was the Vuc trade.

they couldn't anticipate what happened with lonzo.

I get the impression the pels could.

They chose no point guard over resigning ball to a reasonable contract.

dgr81 · Post #324 » by **dgr81** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:03 am

djsunyc wrote:
dgr81 wrote:Bulls biggest mistake was the Vuc trade.

they couldn't anticipate what happened with lonzo.

didn't matter.

vuc is a huge liability. can't win with him at the 5.

Kingsway_fan · Post #325 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:36 am

dgr81 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
dgr81 wrote:Bulls biggest mistake was the Vuc trade.

they couldn't anticipate what happened with lonzo.

didn't matter.

vuc is a huge liability. can't win with him at the 5.[/quote

Another reason why it would be a big mistake to go after Purtle.

Yeezus_ · Post #326 » by **Yeezus_** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:36 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:
dgr81 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
they couldn't anticipate what happened with lonzo.

didn't matter.

vuc is a huge liability. can't win with him at the 5.[/quote

Another reason why it would be a big mistake to go after Purtle.

Vuc is a liability because he can't play defense.

WuTang_CMB · Post #327 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:53 am

Pelicans 8 losses in a row

mcCollum thats for u

now maybe griffin panics and offers a haul for OG

Tor_Raps · Post #328 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:00 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Pelicans 8 losses in a row

mcCollum thats for u

now maybe griffin panics and offers a haul for OG

I've been watching them too. All these losses might make them desperate after getting all the early season hype. It would be very foolish of them to think that way but we can only hope.

They might even add a valuable pick of the Lakers in the Daniels/Hayes/Graham for Fred package I've been hoping for lol.

Raptorfan2012 · Post #329 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:04 am

People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

Tor_Raps · Post #330 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:07 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

Exactly... they already have a bunch of OGs but don't have a PG.

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #331 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:10 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

if fred is being traded, i expect that lakers pick back.

T-d0t · Post #332 » by **T-d0t** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:13 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

if fred is being traded, i expect that lakers pick back.

You aren't getting the Lakers pick for half a season of Fred.

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #333 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:14 am

T-d0t wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

if fred is being traded, i expect that lakers pick back.

You aren't getting the Lakers pick for half a season of Fred.

no trade of fred or trent is for 'half a season'. its to get their bird rights. it is assumed these players will have agreed to remain with these teams in the offseason.

tecumseh18 · Post #334 » by **tecumseh18** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:34 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
T-d0t wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:if fred is being traded, i expect that lakers pick back.

You aren't getting the Lakers pick for half a season of Fred.

no trade of fred or trent is for 'half a season'. its to get their bird rights. it is assumed these players will have agreed to remain with these teams in the offseason.

Interesting to speculate that might have been why the Kyle to Sixers deal fell through. Kyle (through his agent, of course) wouldn't give Morey that assurance that he would re-sign in the summer, so Morey refused to give up Maxey and/or draft capital for a pure rental. Of course, the teams couldn't admit that they were violating league policy, so we just hear a confused jumble of explanations for what happened.

Worked out for us just fine.

alpngso · Post #335 » by **alpngso** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:48 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

top 10 protected? cause they are not going to trade chance at Wemby for 4 months of Fred

alpngso · Post #336 » by **alpngso** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:09 am

Pels in slump does not help Raps because they might just stand pat and not explore any trades if they are in the play-in range before Zion comes back

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #337 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:12 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
T-d0t wrote:You aren't getting the Lakers pick for half a season of Fred.

no trade of fred or trent is for 'half a season'. its to get their bird rights. it is assumed these players will have agreed to remain with these teams in the offseason.

Interesting to speculate that might have been why the Kyle to Sixers deal fell through. Kyle (through his agent, of course) wouldn't give Morey that assurance that he would re-sign in the summer, so Morey refused to give up Maxey and/or draft capital for a pure rental. Of course, the teams couldn't just admit that they were violating league policy, so we just hear a confused jumble of explanations for what happened.

Worked out for us just fine.

also that kyle let it be known around that time thru his agent that he wanted 30M per year which morey probably didn't want lol. once morey left the negotiating table, riley didn't have a reason to stay either.

Syd-TK3 · Post #338 » by **Syd-TK3** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:49 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

Exactly... they already have a bunch of OGs but don't have a PG.

They can have both lol

Zeno · Post #339 » by **Zeno** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:16 am

alpngso wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:People keep proposing OG trades to the Pelicans, but what they really need is a vet point guard to lead them into the playoffs. Fred for Dyson and salary filler.

top 10 protected? cause they are not going to trade chance at Wemby for 4 months of Fred

Just get it top 2 protected.

Ell Curry · Post #340 » by **Ell Curry** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:46 am

dgr81 wrote:Bulls biggest mistake was the Vuc trade.

If we don't get any good enough offers for the core players and aren't tanking and Vucevic has turned down a Bulls extension, I kinda like this:

Bulls - Plumlee, Boucher
Raptors - Vucevic
Charlotte - Thad, Raptors 2nd rounder,

Bulls shore up their big spots and keep their MLE open for a wing or young center. Hornets now have 4 top 45 picks and cap space to take on a bad deal to try to move up on draft day to get some draftees they target, we get an actual center and hope his market is basically lots of MLE offers and we can keep him for say 28M over 2 years and he produces playing 24 minutes a night with Koloko getting about 10 and Precious getting 14 at center and 14 at PF.

Vucevic24-Precious14-Koloko10
Siakam34-Precious14
Barnes34-OG14
OG20-Trent28
VanVleet32-2023 pick16

It's not exciting, but it's probably a playoff team and with a long-term 3rd guard or starting PG now drafted.

But maybe the better question here is would Vucevic take the MLE from us this summer. I could also see something like Vucevic, Trent and Thad to the Lakers, Westbrook and an unprotected Lakers first to us, Boucher and Birch and Max Christie to Chicago.