Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

[mtcan]

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How closely? Like having Laurence Frank showing up at Raptors games and stalking Fred like a creep?

[PhilBlackson]

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F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

[SurgeIblocka]

Boo. Not the biggest fan, but potential is there I guess. Maybe we can motivate him some.

He's a decent traditional big man centre, but he's wildly overpaid for that production. Not a player I'd want at $31M/year and climbing.

I think he still has untapped potential. People forget what he did during the Suns first trip to the finals, all while at the age of 22. He has clearly been unhappy with the Suns since they don't seem to appreciate what he's capable of. It's not the first guy the Suns tried to cheap out on.

And what do people think OG will earn during his next contract? It's gonna be close to the 30M mark, which will be pretty damn close to Ayton. We're not in a position of strength so if I'm able to get someone as good as Ayton who also fills a major hole, I'm taking it no doubt.

A Fred package for Ayton i could go for now but,if its something around OG, I would rather wait for the summer when we know where we are drafting and if we could potentially land the 1st pick and draft Victor. I dont see a huge market for Ayton in case we want to offload him in the future if we draft a big.

[Tor_Raps]

He's a decent traditional big man centre, but he's wildly overpaid for that production. Not a player I'd want at $31M/year and climbing.

I think he still has untapped potential. People forget what he did during the Suns first trip to the finals, all while at the age of 22. He has clearly been unhappy with the Suns since they don't seem to appreciate what he's capable of. It's not the first guy the Suns tried to cheap out on.

And what do people think OG will earn during his next contract? It's gonna be close to the 30M mark, which will be pretty damn close to Ayton. We're not in a position of strength so if I'm able to get someone as good as Ayton who also fills a major hole, I'm taking it no doubt.

A Fred package for Ayton i could go for now but,if its something around OG, I would rather wait for the summer when we know where we are drafting and if we could potentially land the 1st pick and draft Victor. I dont see a huge market for Ayton in case we want to offload him in the future if we draft a big.

I agree that we shouldn't take OG for the sake of trading him. Would love to package our first round pick with OG to get the 2nd pick (no team is trading away Victor's rights lol).

[mtcan]

I think he still has untapped potential. People forget what he did during the Suns first trip to the finals, all while at the age of 22. He has clearly been unhappy with the Suns since they don't seem to appreciate what he's capable of. It's not the first guy the Suns tried to cheap out on.

And what do people think OG will earn during his next contract? It's gonna be close to the 30M mark, which will be pretty damn close to Ayton. We're not in a position of strength so if I'm able to get someone as good as Ayton who also fills a major hole, I'm taking it no doubt.

A Fred package for Ayton i could go for now but,if its something around OG, I would rather wait for the summer when we know where we are drafting and if we could potentially land the 1st pick and draft Victor. I dont see a huge market for Ayton in case we want to offload him in the future if we draft a big.

I agree that we shouldn't take OG for the sake of trading him. Would love to package our first round pick with OG to get the 2nd pick (no team is trading away Victor's rights lol).

No one is giving up Scoot Henderson as well.

Forget asking any of the top 3 or 4 to move up to 6/7/8th pick.

[Bruin]

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F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

You’re implying Fred is actually good and moves the needle enough for them? Id personally enjoy watching Fred try chucking bricks with Kawhi and PG on the floor

[Yeezus_]

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F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

You’re implying Fred is actually good and moves the needle enough for them? Id personally enjoy watching Fred try chucking bricks with Kawhi and PG on the floor

lol wtf. You can dislike a player on our team but your post just screams blind hate. Fred's catch & shoot numbers are slowly climbing back up. He'd be the perfect compliment to PG & Kawhi. Stop hating.

[PaperHoops]

Suppose we went after:

Nurkic
Hart
Sharpe

For

OG
And what?

Thoughts on taking on Nurkic? I think he’s got the play making abilities in the post, plus a potential force to make other teams have to double team.

POR is not giving up Sharpe for OG

I would say without Sharpe there wouldn’t be any interest from the Raptors side. Which is fine, if they aren’t concerned with building around Dame in his prime. Maybe Portland will sell off (Grant, Hart, Nurkic) to open things up for Sharpe.

But to just flat say OG for Sharpe isn’t possible? I think At 25 Sharpe aspires to be where OG is currently. If you’re 1000% sold he exceeds it, then fine. I’m not so sure.

[Bruin]

F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

You’re implying Fred is actually good and moves the needle enough for them? Id personally enjoy watching Fred try chucking bricks with Kawhi and PG on the floor

lol wtf. You can dislike a player on our team but your post just screams blind hate. Fred's catch & shoot numbers are slowly climbing back up. He'd be the perfect compliment to PG & Kawhi. Stop hating.

It’ll be fun seeing him forced to take a back seat

[Raptaurus]

Ayton is underperforming his draft postion and his contract but he is still an above average center. And there is still lots of potential and hopefully a change in scenery will help him put it all together.

He does address an area of need for the Raptors. How else are they gonna get their beefcake center? One option is throwing two first round picks for Poetl but that seems like a big overpayment. Turner is off limits now cause he signed that contract. The other option is just play Precious at center and bet that Koloko can make decent strides next year….

[PhilBlackson]

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F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

You’re implying Fred is actually good and moves the needle enough for them? Id personally enjoy watching Fred try chucking bricks with Kawhi and PG on the floor

Some of y’all hate for Fred runs too deep lol

Absolutely he does. No he’s not great when he’s trying to force his way to the top of the pecking order here. He’s trying to do too much HERE, in LA he will know his role as he did when we had Kawhi. He’s essentially used as Steve Kerr & John Paxton were for MJ & Pipp, a great release valve to pitch out to and hit big shots to keep defences honest on those 2 players which opens up the floor for them. So yes for THEM he would be great as he was for Kawhi & Pascal here…I’m saying this as someone who WANTS to trade FVV lol so I’m not some Fred stan but on the flip side I think you’re being a bit of a hater.

[RapsFanInOhio]

If the return for Gary is two seconds, I would much rather just keep and re-sign him. That’s a pretty good indicator that his price isn’t going to be as high as maybe we think, and there’s a decent chance he could outplay a deal if it’s in the right range.

I love the Clippers as a fit for Fred. If they’re super interested, you milk everything you possibly can out of a deal there. Mann, Kennard, filler, 2028 1st gives you some guard depth, and if you couple that with a Phoenix OG deal, you get:

Barnes / Flynn / Banton
GTJ / Mann / Kennard
Cam / Thad
Siakam / Boucher
Achiuwa / Koloko

Plus all of our picks, 2 or 3 Phoenix FRPs, and an LAC first.

[JRoy]

Suppose we went after:

Nurkic
Hart
Sharpe

For

OG
And what?

Thoughts on taking on Nurkic? I think he’s got the play making abilities in the post, plus a potential force to make other teams have to double team.

POR is not giving up Sharpe for OG

I would say without Sharpe there wouldn’t be any interest from the Raptors side. Which is fine, if they aren’t concerned with building around Dame in his prime. Maybe Portland will sell off (Grant, Hart, Nurkic) to open things up for Sharpe.

But to just flat say OG for Sharpe isn’t possible? I think At 25 Sharpe aspires to be where OG is currently. If you’re 1000% sold he exceeds it, then fine. I’m not so sure.

I think Sharpe is a very different player than OG. Looking forward to seeing what he can become. OG is a fine player, but hard to see teams with lotto picks preferring OG to developing their own talent on rookie scale salary.

[mtcan]

Suppose we went after:

Nurkic
Hart
Sharpe

For

OG
And what?

Thoughts on taking on Nurkic? I think he’s got the play making abilities in the post, plus a potential force to make other teams have to double team.

POR is not giving up Sharpe for OG

I would say without Sharpe there wouldn’t be any interest from the Raptors side. Which is fine, if they aren’t concerned with building around Dame in his prime. Maybe Portland will sell off (Grant, Hart, Nurkic) to open things up for Sharpe.

But to just flat say OG for Sharpe isn’t possible? I think At 25 Sharpe aspires to be where OG is currently. If you’re 1000% sold he exceeds it, then fine. I’m not so sure.

Blazers have Simons who would have to be moved to clear up a spot for Sharpe.

Basically you are either building to win now with Dame or in the future with Sharpe. There is no in-between. And as far as I can tell...they are all-in with Dame so moving Sharpe is the ONLY move that brings back a guy that helps Dame.

If Portland was willing to trade the pick that ended up being Sharpe at the draft...they are probably just as interested in trading Sharpe for OG now.

[Tor_Raps]

A Fred package for Ayton i could go for now but,if its something around OG, I would rather wait for the summer when we know where we are drafting and if we could potentially land the 1st pick and draft Victor. I dont see a huge market for Ayton in case we want to offload him in the future if we draft a big.

I agree that we shouldn't take OG for the sake of trading him. Would love to package our first round pick with OG to get the 2nd pick (no team is trading away Victor's rights lol).

No one is giving up Scoot Henderson as well.

Forget asking any of the top 3 or 4 to move up to 6/7/8th pick.

Agreed.

[T-d0t]

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F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

Kawhi wanted to go home and he chose to re-sign with the Clippers when he had the chance to explore his options in FA. I don't get the hate with the Clippers.

[JRoy]

POR is not giving up Sharpe for OG

I would say without Sharpe there wouldn’t be any interest from the Raptors side. Which is fine, if they aren’t concerned with building around Dame in his prime. Maybe Portland will sell off (Grant, Hart, Nurkic) to open things up for Sharpe.

But to just flat say OG for Sharpe isn’t possible? I think At 25 Sharpe aspires to be where OG is currently. If you’re 1000% sold he exceeds it, then fine. I’m not so sure.

Blazers have Simons who would have to be moved to clear up a spot for Sharpe.

Basically you are either building to win now with Dame or in the future with Sharpe. There is no in-between. And as far as I can tell...they are all-in with Dame so moving Sharpe is the ONLY move that brings back a guy that helps Dame.

If Portland was willing to trade the pick that ended up being Sharpe at the draft...they are probably just as interested in trading Sharpe for OG now.

Simons needs to go. Maybe there is some team somewhere that believes in him.

[LarSiN]

So pi*ss Ed masai did not resign Norm... didn't like it then... dont like it now... ffs he better to much better this trade deadline... his record getting more spotty with time....

Have you watched Norm since the trade ? Gary has a higher FT%, 3pt, Points, Steals & lower TO's. Norm has 3 more Blocks, 6 more Assists, 18 more Rebounds & slightly higher FG%. That's it. Norm is 29 & signed through 2026 when he'll be turning 34. Gary is 24.

Be as upset as you want, but it was a great move then & now.

He's 29 now, he has 3 more seasons on his contract, the final year of that contract is his age 32 year, not 34. Norm looks like the better player right now, shooting 42.5% from 3 vs. 36.7% for Gary, they are fairly even in most areas, though advanced stats favour Norm by a bit. Norm's locked up long term while Gary is looking for 4 years $100M in free agency, that's why we should have kept Norm, cost certainty. Instead, we have to make cost cutting moves to keep an underperforming team together and there's even the possibility we lose Gary in free agency for nothing if we don't trade him now.

So no, not a great move then and now, we've been paying the worse player similar money for 2 years and now he's a free agent looking to get paid more then the better player.

He turns 30 in 3 months, his contract goes till the end of the 2026 season. "He'll be turning 34" = he'll be 33, which is accurate in 3 years.

Beyond that, I disagree that Norm looks like the better player right now, and the numbers back that up. Gary at 20-23 per as a 24 year old is better than Norm at 17-20 per as a 29 year old, but that's just my opinion I guess.

[T-d0t]

I would say without Sharpe there wouldn’t be any interest from the Raptors side. Which is fine, if they aren’t concerned with building around Dame in his prime. Maybe Portland will sell off (Grant, Hart, Nurkic) to open things up for Sharpe.

But to just flat say OG for Sharpe isn’t possible? I think At 25 Sharpe aspires to be where OG is currently. If you’re 1000% sold he exceeds it, then fine. I’m not so sure.

Blazers have Simons who would have to be moved to clear up a spot for Sharpe.

Basically you are either building to win now with Dame or in the future with Sharpe. There is no in-between. And as far as I can tell...they are all-in with Dame so moving Sharpe is the ONLY move that brings back a guy that helps Dame.

If Portland was willing to trade the pick that ended up being Sharpe at the draft...they are probably just as interested in trading Sharpe for OG now.

Simons needs to go. Maybe there is some team somewhere that believes in him.

Has the fanbase perception of Simons changed that much to now wanting him traded? Wasn't that long ago that he was the Blazers coveted prospect

[God Squad]

F*ck the Clippers, zero interest in helping them.

You’re implying Fred is actually good and moves the needle enough for them? Id personally enjoy watching Fred try chucking bricks with Kawhi and PG on the floor

lol wtf. You can dislike a player on our team but your post just screams blind hate. Fred's catch & shoot numbers are slowly climbing back up. He'd be the perfect compliment to PG & Kawhi. Stop hating.

Problem is the Clippers don't have any valuable assets. Unfortunately the Thunder have most their picks from the PG trade.