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Post#101 » by DusterBuster » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:38 pm

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Case2012 wrote:That’s a risk I would not want to take... I don’t see how a coach has anything to do with the ability of a player to finish a lay up? What was his FG% at the rim in previous seasons?

Kylie wants out, which means KD is probably next.

Screw OG, Let’s go all in on KD. People on here were hating on the idea before the season but he’s having his m,ost efficient season ever at 34. It’s championship or bust, let’s go.

I came here for this. KD is the type of guy we can unprotect picks and give Sharpe up for.


Yep, IF Durant becomes available, Portland should push all their chips in. Grant, Simons, Sharpe, and any FRP pick not tied down for KD and Morris.

Dame/GP3
Hart/Johnson
Little/Winslow
KD/Morris
Nurk/Eubanks

Again though, I think KD asking for a trade is still a bit IF. Definitely not off the table, but Kyrie and KD aren't tied at the hip like they once were believed to be, so I think saying KD "is probably next" is a bit too far imo.

That would be a pretty great rebuilding package for the Nets though. They can let Grant walk for salary savings or flip him, then they have a backcourt ready to grow together for the next 6-8 years in Simons and Sharpe... and if Simmons ever pulls his head out of his arse (unlikely), that would be a really fun trio of complementing players to build around and flush away the drama filled KD/Kyrie era.
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Post#102 » by m0ng0 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:32 pm

BNM wrote:Latest chatter from Brian Windhorst is POR is in "buying" mode with one possible target is OG Anunoby. He speculates that any offer from Portland for OG would start with Shaedon Sharpe?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270253/Blazers-Absolutely-In-Buying-Mode-Ahead-Of-Trade-Deadline

So, what say you? Would you include Sharpe as part of a package that landed OG Anunoby?

I'd only do it if it was part of a larger package that also landed us Siakim.


Nope, I would take Siakim and OG for Dame and Nurk or any combination of Grant/Winslow/hart/gp
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Re: Trade Deadline Approaches 

Post#103 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:39 pm

I chortled because that team becomes a worse version of Toronto now. You have no one to run the offense. Ant can't run the offense full time.

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Post#104 » by PDXKnight » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:17 pm

I'm mostly worried about the previous supposed asking price for og being 3 picks than shaedon. Talent wise og is better than shaedon but I qouldnt want to do the added talent to make it work ie if we are including anf.
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Post#105 » by Case2012 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:42 pm

You can’t include shaedon with Simons, you get one or the other and depending on which one you might get a few picks.

I would be pleased with getting Vando, who i mentioned a lot before the season and an upgrade to Nurk if we strike out on OG, Siakam, KD etc.

Also, If we can’t get KD I think it would still be worth it free up the pick this year to get Turner to replace Nurk.

Dame/Payton
Simons/Hart
Grant/Winslow
Vanderbilt/Watford
Turner/Eubanks

Moving Grant to the 3 and Hart to the bench (should be Simons as a 6th man) and having a PF that actually rebounds and makes plays for others with Vando would dramatically improve our team. Still doesn’t solve re-signing Hart and Grant though.
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Post#106 » by JRoy » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:45 pm

PDXKnight wrote:I'm mostly worried about the previous supposed asking price for og being 3 picks than shaedon. Talent wise og is better than shaedon but I qouldnt want to do the added talent to make it work ie if we are including anf.


This team is more than an OG away from contention.

If Simons is the biggest outgoing piece, fine. We need to keep Sharpe.
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Post#107 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:48 pm

I think IND would have to be blown away by any offer for Turner, I am taking Sharpe or 3FRP type offer. And we are not a Turner away from competing.

I think something small like Vandy, we sneak into the 7-8 seed, lose in R1, give our pick to CHI then pay Grant 30M to run it back.

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Post#108 » by wco81 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:56 pm

Turner has a $35 million cap number for this season, doesn't he?

After his extension which added $17 million to his original salary.
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Post#109 » by DusterBuster » Sat Feb 4, 2023 12:08 am

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BNM wrote:Latest chatter from Brian Windhorst is POR is in "buying" mode with one possible target is OG Anunoby. He speculates that any offer from Portland for OG would start with Shaedon Sharpe?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270253/Blazers-Absolutely-In-Buying-Mode-Ahead-Of-Trade-Deadline

So, what say you? Would you include Sharpe as part of a package that landed OG Anunoby?

I'd only do it if it was part of a larger package that also landed us Siakim.


Nope, I would take Siakim and OG for Dame and Nurk or any combination of Grant/Winslow/hart/gp


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Post#110 » by DaVoiceMaster » Sat Feb 4, 2023 12:32 am

How do the Blazers get Ananoby and Vanderbilt?

Will Utah take the Covington TPE?

I imagine Sharpe needs to be part of the Ananoby trade. I'm just not comfortable with that though.
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Post#111 » by DusterBuster » Sat Feb 4, 2023 12:36 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:How do the Blazers get Ananoby and Vanderbilt?

Will Utah take the Covington TPE?

I imagine Sharpe needs to be part of the Ananoby trade. I'm just not comfortable with that though.


FWIW, Jake Fisher (insider) was on 1080 today and said the talk with Vanderbilt included Hart, some min-contract young guys (Johnson, brown, etc) and some 2nds.

Ananoby isn't good enough to deal Sharpe imo. Right now, I only am willing to give up Sharpe for a clear game-changer. Nothing against OG, but he isn't that.
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Post#112 » by JasonStern » Sat Feb 4, 2023 12:58 am

BNM wrote:Latest chatter from Brian Windhorst is POR is in "buying" mode with one possible target is OG Anunoby. He speculates that any offer from Portland for OG would start with Shaedon Sharpe?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270253/Blazers-Absolutely-In-Buying-Mode-Ahead-Of-Trade-Deadline

So, what say you? Would you include Sharpe as part of a package that landed OG Anunoby?

I'd only do it if it was part of a larger package that also landed us Siakim.


Sharpe is a gamble, but he's worth gambling on. But you can't pass up pairing Dame with a legit all-star like Siakam. I'd do a Sharpe for Siakam trade - and I am high on Sharpe - but not for OG. Anunoby is easily the most overrated player on RealGM. If Toronto's players are so valuable, why are they 23-30?
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Re: Trade Deadline Approaches 

Post#113 » by DaVoiceMaster » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:01 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:How do the Blazers get Ananoby and Vanderbilt?

Will Utah take the Covington TPE?

I imagine Sharpe needs to be part of the Ananoby trade. I'm just not comfortable with that though.


FWIW, Jake Fisher (insider) was on 1080 today and said the talk with Vanderbilt included Hart, some min-contract young guys (Johnson, brown, etc) and some 2nds.

Ananoby isn't good enough to deal Sharpe imo. Right now, I only am willing to give up Sharpe for a clear game-changer. Nothing against OG, but he isn't that.


Vanderbilt is only $4M. Hart and a couple of kids is like $16M. Who else would the Blazers get?
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Post#114 » by Norm2953 » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:29 am

Blazers absolutely in buying mode :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#115 » by DusterBuster » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:34 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:How do the Blazers get Ananoby and Vanderbilt?

Will Utah take the Covington TPE?

I imagine Sharpe needs to be part of the Ananoby trade. I'm just not comfortable with that though.


FWIW, Jake Fisher (insider) was on 1080 today and said the talk with Vanderbilt included Hart, some min-contract young guys (Johnson, brown, etc) and some 2nds.

Ananoby isn't good enough to deal Sharpe imo. Right now, I only am willing to give up Sharpe for a clear game-changer. Nothing against OG, but he isn't that.


Vanderbilt is only $4M. Hart and a couple of kids is like $16M. Who else would the Blazers get?


Rudy Gay as the filler maybe? They didn't expand on it that much, but enough filler contracts on the Jazz side to figure that out.
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Post#116 » by PDXKnight » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:38 am

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PDXKnight wrote:I'm mostly worried about the previous supposed asking price for og being 3 picks than shaedon. Talent wise og is better than shaedon but I qouldnt want to do the added talent to make it work ie if we are including anf.


This team is more than an OG away from contention.

If Simons is the biggest outgoing piece, fine. We need to keep Sharpe.


I'd prefer to keep shaedon between the two obviously. But either way sacrificing a boatload of firsts on top of either really unloads the cupboard of Any package we might have if any all star becomes available. Really hope we don't overpay for og and knowing that gm in Toronto I honestly can't say I feel comfortable about what we'd pay for anyone there. Additionally as for any talk of Vanderbilt that's ainge imagine how he'd fleece joe. I just think judging by the gms we are negotiating with we either get fleeced or make a minor trade at this point so hopefully it's the latter more than getting fleeced
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Post#117 » by PDXKnight » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:41 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:How do the Blazers get Ananoby and Vanderbilt?

Will Utah take the Covington TPE?

I imagine Sharpe needs to be part of the Ananoby trade. I'm just not comfortable with that though.


FWIW, Jake Fisher (insider) was on 1080 today and said the talk with Vanderbilt included Hart, some min-contract young guys (Johnson, brown, etc) and some 2nds.

Ananoby isn't good enough to deal Sharpe imo. Right now, I only am willing to give up Sharpe for a clear game-changer. Nothing against OG, but he isn't that.


Giving picks on top of Hart for Vanderbilt seems like utah wins imho. Should be a straight swap I think Hart is the better player and the value is evened out by Jared being a center
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Post#118 » by JRoy » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:44 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:How do the Blazers get Ananoby and Vanderbilt?

Will Utah take the Covington TPE?

I imagine Sharpe needs to be part of the Ananoby trade. I'm just not comfortable with that though.


FWIW, Jake Fisher (insider) was on 1080 today and said the talk with Vanderbilt included Hart, some min-contract young guys (Johnson, brown, etc) and some 2nds.

Ananoby isn't good enough to deal Sharpe imo. Right now, I only am willing to give up Sharpe for a clear game-changer. Nothing against OG, but he isn't that.


Giving picks on top of Hart for Vanderbilt seems like utah wins imho. Should be a straight swap I think Hart is the better player and the value is evened out by Jared being a center


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Post#119 » by DusterBuster » Sat Feb 4, 2023 1:47 am

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BNM wrote:Latest chatter from Brian Windhorst is POR is in "buying" mode with one possible target is OG Anunoby. He speculates that any offer from Portland for OG would start with Shaedon Sharpe?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270253/Blazers-Absolutely-In-Buying-Mode-Ahead-Of-Trade-Deadline

So, what say you? Would you include Sharpe as part of a package that landed OG Anunoby?

I'd only do it if it was part of a larger package that also landed us Siakim.


Sharpe is a gamble, but he's worth gambling on. But you can't pass up pairing Dame with a legit all-star like Siakam. I'd do a Sharpe for Siakam trade - and I am high on Sharpe - but not for OG. Anunoby is easily the most overrated player on RealGM. If Toronto's players are so valuable, why are they 23-30?


I'm in the same boat you are, I'm game to move Sharpe, but it needs to be for a high high-level All-Star that can put this team to the next level to help Dame in the next 1-3 years.

Just being realistic, Dame probably doesn't have many years left of this level of skill, so if they move Sharpe, it has to be a no-brainer deal that puts Portland in at least the Top 6 of the West... ideally Top 4. OG is definitely NOT that player. Siakam... getting closer but not 100% sold especially considering the other pieces needed to get him. That said, I'd be tempted for Siakam given his age.

Not sure how interested Toronto would really be in Sharpe with Barnes playing the same position, but they probably could play together and I'm sure they'd love the hometown-y-ness of it.

Really tho, I'm only 100% sold on a deal involving Sharpe if it's an "all-in" deal with all the other high-level pieces and picks to get Dame another undoubted superstar to play next to. He's never had that once in his time in Portland and I think it would be cool to do that for him at least once in his prime - even if it hurts the Blazers longish term by losing a lot of young assets.
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