2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[bwgood77]

the reason i want us to do this is just to keep other west teams from getting him. dallas a d lakers are interested as well.

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I fail to see how Dallas can really put together anything that Brooklyn would actually want in a trade.

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Dinwiddie would be a nice piece. I can't remember how he left Brooklyn if there was bad blood but I imagine they'd prefer to Paul given his age...and how well he has played in some games of late. They could also throw in Wood, McGee or some other decent contracts. Kyrie and Doncic could be very scary.

Do you really think they'd prefer Paul and Crowder? Paul if overpaid for production and the price to cut him is high for a player who gives you nothing and Jae expires and could go anywhere.

[Slim Charless]

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The trade reaper strikes again!

[lilfishi22]

Kyrie is always a god damn wildcard. This is why I just can't take Brooklyn seriously as a contender.

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Exactly why I don't want anything to do with him. A week or so ago, there was a report he wanted to sign an extension with Brooklyn and that didn't happen so now he wants out. Not that it's all that rare these days but I just can't with Kyrie

Not to mention, he's burned bridges with every team he's been with

[Jesus_H_Macy]

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Isiah Thomas seems like awfully bad news

Agreed. Please no.

God please no Isaiah Thomas. I take back every bad thing I've ever said about Jones. I'd rather gives Jones a 20yr deal than have Isaiah running things. Not a good start for Ishbia if there's any truth to that.

[bwgood77]

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I still can't believe it was 50/50 on trading him for OG. This is very scary. TJ Warren injury scary. People really want to pay him a lot of money with all his injuries and how he sometimes struggles/is inconsistent coming back from injuries?

I love a healthy Cam playing well, but that goes for a lot of players (Kawhi, AD, etc, etc)

[bwgood77]

Not that again, and it's way too late in the season to completely rip apart the team for Durant, wouldn't have enough time to build team around him that has to happen in the offseason team would be gutted.

Exactly. Plus a team like Philly could offer Harris and Maxey. Pelicans could offer a lot as well


Kyrie though - thats the one. I want more information on what a trade package would look like. Might have to watch ESPN tonight - if they have the countdown show just for Woj

Honestly CP3 and Crowder makes sense it lets Nets still have a shot to compete this year and they can clear that cap next year. Kyrie is unrestricted so they lose him for nothing if they don't move him and most those other teams packages don't keep that window open. They are going to need to get a pg back.

They are over the cap so if they clear cap space, they lose all that salary space to add players. It could create some but probably not much...like more than MLE type space.

[TeamTragic]

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I still can't believe it was 50/50 on trading him for OG. This is very scary. TJ Warren injury scary. People really want to pay him a lot of money with all his injuries and how he sometimes struggles/is inconsistent coming back from injuries?

I love a healthy Cam playing well, but that goes for a lot of players (Kawhi, AD, etc, etc)

This is completely reasonable for a player coming back from a knee injury.

Do you want the SUNS to run him into the ground?

[lilfishi22]

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Remember when Flex said SUNS are waiting for the next superstar and are holding their picks?

Yeah....but we've also been doing that since the McD days and nothing ever happened.

[SkyBill40]

Ishbia had better not even sniff this one. Kyrie doesn't pass the smell test and even though he's a solid player, he's a franchise wrecker and would undo everything that's been rebuilt here. From a purely basketball standpoint alone, he'd be a huge upgrade over Paul but one has to question his ability to be a truly team focused player as a PG and not as an undersized and ready to let it fly SG.

His next contract is going to be huge and even with Ishbia's bankroll, he can't afford it.

[Qwigglez]

I think Kyrie is just using this to get the contract extension he wants. However... I could see the Nets standing firm with their contract since they have clear differences in opinion about things other than basketball. So I guess we will see.

I don't see Suns being interested that much in Kyrie, unless he specifically states that he would sign an extension with the Suns. I do feel Kyrie wants to play with Booker, however I think he wants to go to LA more. Because of that I am unsure I trade anything but CP3 and Jae for Kyrie. I also think James Jones is loyal and won't do CP3 like that.

I'd still go after FVV as he is cheaper and we could probably get him while keeping our core group intact.

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I still can't believe it was 50/50 on trading him for OG. This is very scary. TJ Warren injury scary. People really want to pay him a lot of money with all his injuries and how he sometimes struggles/is inconsistent coming back from injuries?

I love a healthy Cam playing well, but that goes for a lot of players (Kawhi, AD, etc, etc)

Well, for the sake of argument and to be glass half full over this whole thing. ****IF**** the Suns were looking to trade CamJo in the very near future, wouldn't it smart to hold him out? Just to make sure no crazy injury happens and blows the trade up. I mean all that tweet says is that he sitting not that he reinjured himself......

[TeamTragic]

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Remember when Flex said SUNS are waiting for the next superstar and are holding their picks?

Yeah....but we've also been doing that since the McD days and nothing ever happened.

We got the #1 pick and signed CP3 which eventually put this team into the Finals. Then we won a franchise record 64 games and would have gone further if not for the Booker injury against the Pelicans.

[Saberestar]

James Jones and Kyrie Irving were teammates and they know each other pretty well.

My opinion...if James Jones believes in him I would try to get him trading Crowder + Shamet + multiple FRP picks.

[lilfishi22]

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The trade reaper strikes again!

I feel like this at least leaves the door open. Given the language Gambo uses, this doesn't feellike his usual party pooper, Debbie Downer type of tweet. Normally it's just "Not happening" "No chance" "Won't happen". Pretty definitive.

This *I* do not expect, just feels more personal opinion

[TeamTragic]

I think Kyrie is just using this to get the contract extension he wants. However... I could see the Nets standing firm with their contract since they have clear differences in opinion about things other than basketball. So I guess we will see.

I don't see Suns being interested that much in Kyrie, unless he specifically states that he would sign an extension with the Suns. I do feel Kyrie wants to play with Booker, however I think he wants to go to LA more. Because of that I am unsure I trade anything but CP3 and Jae for Kyrie. I also think James Jones is loyal and won't do CP3 like that.

I'd still go after FVV as he is cheaper and we could probably get him while keeping our core group intact.

FVV does not put this team over the top and he will command 20M+.

Kyrie puts this team over the top and he gets to play with Booker.

[bwgood77]

Kyrie's selfishness is so blatant and shameless I almost have to respect it. Dudes willing to throw a grenade into a contending team because he didn't get the exact extension he wants. Any team who trades for him is going to get what they deserve when he creates some mess there.

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His leverage is high. They should just pay him. I know the owner is hesitant but he's a hell of a lot more tradeable and will have far more value if he is under contract for 4 years. No team may want him now but would later if he keeps his head down like he has since his apology or whatever.

Do you think Kyrie is capable of keeping his head down and just balling for an extended period of time? Last time he did that was what early Cav days?

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I don't know. I never thought so but the COVID thing was a little different. I do think he would create something but after the hot water he got in with the Jewish stuff, I think he may have gotten a bit of a wakeup call with Silver involved and all that and if he's paid, I think it's a slight possibility.

I can understandd why BKN is hesitating on a long term guaranteed deal. I think they had already offered one with incentives on games played and team options, etc.

I still think they almost have no choice. Can't let stars walk away if they make you a contender when healthy and playing. I know many believe they are not close to contender with him, KD and role players, and maybe Simmons still getting back to form, but I think they are. They were way up there even with their terrible start when Kyrie came back...probably the best overall record for a stretch.

[WeekapaugGroove]

the reason i want us to do this is just to keep other west teams from getting him. dallas a d lakers are interested as well.

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I fail to see how Dallas can really put together anything that Brooklyn would actually want in a trade.

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Dinwiddie would be a nice piece. I can't remember how he left Brooklyn if there was bad blood but I imagine they'd prefer to Paul given his age...and how well he has played in some games of late. They could also throw in Wood, McGee or some other decent contracts. Kyrie and Doncic could be very scary.

Do you really think they'd prefer Paul and Crowder? Paul if overpaid for production and the price to cut him is high for a player who gives you nothing and Jae expires and could go anywhere.

I have no **** idea what Kyrie or the Nets will actually do. I stopped trying to predict actions of irrational people a long time ago.

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[lilfishi22]

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I call BS here! With a new billionaire owner incoming who just happens to also be from Detroit AND recently signing a supermax deal. This rumor is highly unlikely!

This feels like totally uncharacteristic of Book and I also don't expect to be going backwards in terms of team building moving forward (ie we're not tanking)

[bwgood77]

Kyrie is always a god damn wildcard. This is why I just can't take Brooklyn seriously as a contender.

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Exactly why I don't want anything to do with him. A week or so ago, there was a report he wanted to sign an extension with Brooklyn and that didn't happen so now he wants out. Not that it's all that rare these days but I just can't with Kyrie

Not to mention, he's burned bridges with every team he's been with

He has leverage for a week and then I think he caves on extension. I am pretty sure all the teams with cap space this summer are bad, and probably wouldn't want to pay him anyway, so his best bet is to cave and take BKN's best offer, which will probably slightly improve. I already think it is pretty strong.

[bwgood77]

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I still can't believe it was 50/50 on trading him for OG. This is very scary. TJ Warren injury scary. People really want to pay him a lot of money with all his injuries and how he sometimes struggles/is inconsistent coming back from injuries?

I love a healthy Cam playing well, but that goes for a lot of players (Kawhi, AD, etc, etc)

This is completely reasonable for a player coming back from a knee injury.

Do you want the SUNS to run him into the ground?

On a b2b I think it's reasonable. He has played in 6 straight games with 1 day off in each, so why 2 weeks later does he need 3 or 4 days off? Sounds a little suspect to me. I guess we will see.

Or maybe he is involved in a pending deal.