Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST

[Bohemian]

Jaylen, Brogdon, Pritch, Gallo, and a first for KD, Harris, Curry, and Warren.

Smart/White
Harris/Curry
Tatum/Warren
Durant/Grant
Rob/Al

Spoiler:

That ship has sailed...

[MagicBagley18]

Why not pick up a useful player, without having to move Gallo? That way, you keep Gallo for next season - and the slight chance that he returns this season.

Vanderbilt fits into the Schroder TPE. Give the Jazz, a pick and/or Pritchard. Whatever, but giving up Gallo isn't necessary to get it done..

Gallo will be the Celtics version of Utah’s Rudy Gay next year. Utah can’t move Rudy Gay. This is what people can’t get in their heads. Gallo is done as far as being any kind of significant player. Cut bait and move him now if you can get back a useful player.

Gallo was on his last legs (pardon the pun) before his injury. That’s why the Celtics were able to get him for $6 million.

You’re indirectly making the case to keep him. Right now, he’s multi year salary filler with no on court value. Next year, he’s expiring salary filler with no on court value if he’s shot after the injury. That alone makes him a more practical trade chip next year. If he has any sort of return to court value at all that’s just gravy.

The problem with using him in a trade now is that some team is going to make you pay extra to use Gallo as the salary. And we’re already so limited in what we have to trade because of the pick owed for Brogdon that it’s tough to envision a scenario that works.

This off-season we get flexibility to move near-term picks again and Gallo will be expiring vs multi year. Much easier to see trade scenarios then.

That’s great he’s a trade chip next year…what about the idea that ya know we try to go for it this year? Not that he’s gonna yield a huge return but I mean isn’t the idea to go for it now…..

[MagicBagley18]

Jaylen, Brogdon, Pritch, Gallo, and a first for KD, Harris, Curry, and Warren.

Smart/White
Harris/Curry
Tatum/Warren
Durant/Grant
Rob/Al

Spoiler:

Let’s do it baby!

[hugepatsfan]

Gallo will be the Celtics version of Utah’s Rudy Gay next year. Utah can’t move Rudy Gay. This is what people can’t get in their heads. Gallo is done as far as being any kind of significant player. Cut bait and move him now if you can get back a useful player.

Gallo was on his last legs (pardon the pun) before his injury. That’s why the Celtics were able to get him for $6 million.

You’re indirectly making the case to keep him. Right now, he’s multi year salary filler with no on court value. Next year, he’s expiring salary filler with no on court value if he’s shot after the injury. That alone makes him a more practical trade chip next year. If he has any sort of return to court value at all that’s just gravy.

The problem with using him in a trade now is that some team is going to make you pay extra to use Gallo as the salary. And we’re already so limited in what we have to trade because of the pick owed for Brogdon that it’s tough to envision a scenario that works.

This off-season we get flexibility to move near-term picks again and Gallo will be expiring vs multi year. Much easier to see trade scenarios then.

That’s great he’s a trade chip next year…what about the idea that ya know we try to go for it this year? Not that he’s gonna yield a huge return but I mean isn’t the idea to go for it now…..

Sure. But my point is that Gallo right now is a negative. So while it sounds great to include him in a trade to help now, including a negative value piece in many cases makes a deal harder, not easier to get done.

Functionally speaking, it’s going to be really tough to make a deal for a role player with Gallos contract. At the price points of most of the guys we’ve talked about here, most teams would rather just skip a deal than have to take back multi year practically dead money salary in it.

[Feed Your Head]

Jaylen, Brogdon, Pritch, Gallo, and a first for KD, Harris, Curry, and Warren.

Smart/White
Harris/Curry
Tatum/Warren
Durant/Grant
Rob/Al

Spoiler:

That ship has sailed...

Shipping up to Boston. Kyrie too.

[MagicBagley18]

You’re indirectly making the case to keep him. Right now, he’s multi year salary filler with no on court value. Next year, he’s expiring salary filler with no on court value if he’s shot after the injury. That alone makes him a more practical trade chip next year. If he has any sort of return to court value at all that’s just gravy.

The problem with using him in a trade now is that some team is going to make you pay extra to use Gallo as the salary. And we’re already so limited in what we have to trade because of the pick owed for Brogdon that it’s tough to envision a scenario that works.

This off-season we get flexibility to move near-term picks again and Gallo will be expiring vs multi year. Much easier to see trade scenarios then.

That’s great he’s a trade chip next year…what about the idea that ya know we try to go for it this year? Not that he’s gonna yield a huge return but I mean isn’t the idea to go for it now…..

Sure. But my point is that Gallo right now is a negative. So while it sounds great to include him in a trade to help now, including a negative value piece in many cases makes a deal harder, not easier to get done.

Functionally speaking, it’s going to be really tough to make a deal for a role player with Gallos contract. At the price points of most of the guys we’ve talked about here, most teams would rather just skip a deal than have to take back multi year practically dead money salary in it.

Likely yes. Would also have to Gallo+Pritchard probably but Gallo is a key salary filler in one of those deals.

That said while you make sense I just don’t like the philosophy of not trying to go for it right now. Obviously not at the expense of mortgaging the future (and they wouldn’t) but real legitimate championship chances don’t come around often.

Capitalize if you can.

[MagicBagley18]

Jaylen, Brogdon, Pritch, Gallo, and a first for KD, Harris, Curry, and Warren.

Smart/White
Harris/Curry
Tatum/Warren
Durant/Grant
Rob/Al

Spoiler:

That ship has sailed...

Shipping up to Boston. Kyrie too.

I willlllllll go down with this shipppppp I won’t throw my arms up and surrenderrrrrrr….there will be no white flags upon my door

[Andrew McCeltic]

Seriously though if Durant asks out what's his market? Can he fetch a superstar trade package? Are there many teams close to contention who have the assets to get him? Contenders who have the assets? Denver, Phoenix.. would anyone in Cleveland blow everything up and move Mobley? Golden State has Wiseman/Kuminga but that's far-fetched.. Memphis? Portland could offer Sharpe, Simons, picks.. What about a Tobias Harris/Maxey/Thybulle package?

[Captain_Caveman]

Seriously though if Durant asks out what's his market? Can he fetch a superstar trade package? Are there many teams close to contention who have the assets to get him? Contenders who have the assets? Denver, Phoenix.. would anyone in Cleveland blow everything up and move Mobley? Golden State has Wiseman/Kuminga but that's far-fetched.. Memphis? Portland could offer Sharpe, Simons, picks.. What about a Tobias Harris/Maxey/Thybulle package?

His market was Jaylen Brown and remains so. Maybe TO, PHX, NO, or MEM gets involved. Everyone else can pound sand.

[Floody100]

We’re first in the East & Brown’s averaging 27 ppg while only just entering his prime. You know damn well that’s the first guy the Nets are going to want if they trade KD.

[MagicBagley18]

Seriously though if Durant asks out what's his market? Can he fetch a superstar trade package? Are there many teams close to contention who have the assets to get him? Contenders who have the assets? Denver, Phoenix.. would anyone in Cleveland blow everything up and move Mobley? Golden State has Wiseman/Kuminga but that's far-fetched.. Memphis? Portland could offer Sharpe, Simons, picks.. What about a Tobias Harris/Maxey/Thybulle package?

His market was Jaylen Brown and remains so. Maybe TO, PHX, NO, or MEM gets involved. Everyone else can pound sand.

The caveman gets it

[MagicBagley18]

We’re first in the East & Brown’s averaging 27 ppg while only just entering his prime. You know damn well that’s the first guy the Nets are going to want if they trade KD.

Sure, if the owner can get past the fact that he’s trading for a guy who called him out and could be a flight risk.

[Captain_Caveman]

We’re first in the East & Brown’s averaging 27 ppg while only just entering his prime. You know damn well that’s the first guy the Nets are going to want if they trade KD.

We can get beat out due to having vastly inferior picks to trade and Jaylen only having 1.5 years left, but would we?

[Andrew McCeltic]

We’re first in the East & Brown’s averaging 27 ppg while only just entering his prime. You know damn well that’s the first guy the Nets are going to want if they trade KD.

We can get beat out due to having vastly inferior picks to trade and Jaylen only having 1.5 years left, but would we?

We can also get beat out by not being **** stupid enough to trade Jaylen

[MagicBagley18]

We’re first in the East & Brown’s averaging 27 ppg while only just entering his prime. You know damn well that’s the first guy the Nets are going to want if they trade KD.

We can get beat out due to having vastly inferior picks to trade and Jaylen only having 1.5 years left, but would we?

We can also get beat out by not being **** stupid enough to trade Jaylen

Seriously who wants a top 4 mvp candidate

[Captain_Caveman]

We’re first in the East & Brown’s averaging 27 ppg while only just entering his prime. You know damn well that’s the first guy the Nets are going to want if they trade KD.

We can get beat out due to having vastly inferior picks to trade and Jaylen only having 1.5 years left, but would we?

We can also get beat out by not being **** stupid enough to trade Jaylen

I'd have preferred that it happen over the summer to have more time to build chemistry, and would need to see the actual trade, but it's pretty simple for me. Even now, Kevin Durant is as good as any player to ever put on a Celtics uniform. Maybe you only get that for a year and a half, but maybe you also only get Jaylen for a year and a half.

As a basketball player, Jaylen does not deserve to even be mentioned in the same paragraph as KD.

[Feed Your Head]

We can get beat out due to having vastly inferior picks to trade and Jaylen only having 1.5 years left, but would we?

We can also get beat out by not being **** stupid enough to trade Jaylen

Seriously who wants a top 4 mvp candidate

Yessss this is what this thread needed . Feels like a good place to post this. We damn sure wouldn’t be a big net negative when Tatum sits if we had KD. I’d do whatever move increases our title odds for the next two years.

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[Andrew McCeltic]

KD's 34 and hasn't played in a month, he's owed 46, 49 and 53 million for his age 35, 36, and 37 seasons. He played 55 games last year. He's on the downside of his career. It'd be nearly the reverse of the KG/Pierce trade. Starf*cking win now stupidity.

Jaylen Brown is eight years younger, healthier, still improving, possible all-NBA in his future. It'd be BOX OF ROCKS DUMB to trade him. Possibly unprecedented. Name one 34 year old to get a trade return like that, even a "superstar".

[bisme37]

Westbrook is on the court playing for LAL right now just to mention it. A lot of people got excited and thought he was out today and getting traded for Kyrie at any moment.

[MagicBagley18]

We can get beat out due to having vastly inferior picks to trade and Jaylen only having 1.5 years left, but would we?

We can also get beat out by not being **** stupid enough to trade Jaylen

I'd have preferred that it happen over the summer to have more time to build chemistry, and would need to see the actual trade, but it's pretty simple for me. Even now, Kevin Durant is as good as any player to ever put on a Celtics uniform. Maybe you only get that for a year and a half, but maybe you also only get Jaylen for a year and a half.

As a basketball player, Jaylen does not deserve to even be mentioned in the same paragraph as KD.

Agreed. Also know it’s likely a discussion that we won’t have to worry about.