Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[DelAbbot]

Suns gonna wait for KD in the summer only for the Nets to not trade him again. It worked out well last summer for the Suns and CP3 will be a year older.

While this is true, Suns will still take the bait. The gap between KD and Siakam/OG is worth the wait.

[goinrogue]

I think it does make sense for the magic because if Fred gets traded to the suns or the Lakers or clippers, he might be convinced to stay. The magic may have decided Suggs is a scrub anyway. Suggs and bamba for Fred would work.

[DelAbbot]

Although the Raptors, sources said, have communicated asking prices for Anunoby that rival front offices feel are quite steep.

Good. Gobert haul for OG or nothing

[youreachiteach]

He was really pissed off today. We need that deadline to pass already

Who cares? Play better and lead your team to wins, or else your names are gonna be floated around

First of all it hurts his value in the market--also...we're probably not trading him and that means even more discord.

[Nyce_1]

I very much doubt Masai trades for Suggs after his reportedly poor draft workout for the team and having passed him over for Barnes.

If Orlando is willing to give up Suggs, I wonder if we could turn this into a 3-way deal and fetch a younger player that Masai likes more.

BTW, for Masai critics, remember that we could have Suggs instead of Barnes right now. Don't forget, Suggs was a near universal consensus top 4 pick.

A few things:

- just because a team drafts player b over player a, doesn't mean they don't like player a. You only get 1 chance and in a draft, you bet on the development of certain skills to propel a prospect to be their best version. Sometimes you get it wrong, sometimes you get it half right.

- there was a rumor at the 2021 draft that your GM was trying to entice Orlando to trade up from 5. With all mocks pointing to Orlando taking Scottie at 5, why let a team trade up 1 spot if there's a risk they take a player you want? I think it may have been because they rated Scottie & Suggs (or maybe another player) pretty equally.

- if a team drafts player b over player a, it doesn't mean the team will stop watching player a or avoid ever bringing him into the organization.

- I think Suggs would be an amazing fit next to Scottie. AMAZING.

- Orl has no desire to trade Suggs. They LOVE him and what he brings. Lots of good years ahead of him. If you want him, price is high.

- if the rumored interest in FVV is true, it's to ADD him to Fultz/Suggs rotation. The odd man out is Cole. No idea if the interest is real or if Orl is being used as leverage because of the cap space availability.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Suggs would be great in the 905.

[WuTang_CMB]

I very much doubt Masai trades for Suggs after his reportedly poor draft workout for the team and having passed him over for Barnes.

If Orlando is willing to give up Suggs, I wonder if we could turn this into a 3-way deal and fetch a younger player that Masai likes more.

BTW, for Masai critics, remember that we could have Suggs instead of Barnes right now. Don't forget, Suggs was a near universal consensus top 4 pick.

A few things:

- just because a team drafts player b over player a, doesn't mean they don't like player a. You only get 1 chance and in a draft, you bet on the development of certain skills to propel a prospect to be their best version. Sometimes you get it wrong, sometimes you get it half right.

- there was a rumor at the 2021 draft that your GM was trying to entice Orlando to trade up from 5. With all mocks pointing to Orlando taking Scottie at 5, why let a team trade up 1 spot if there's a risk they take a player you want? I think it may have been because they rated Scottie & Suggs (or maybe another player) pretty equally.

- if a team drafts player b over player a, it doesn't mean the team will stop watching player a or avoid ever bringing him into the organization.

- I think Suggs would be an amazing fit next to Scottie. AMAZING.

- Orl has no desire to trade Suggs. They LOVE him and what he brings. Lots of good years ahead of him. If you want him, price is high.

- if the rumored interest in FVV is true, it's to ADD him to Fultz/Suggs rotation. The odd man out is Cole. No idea if the interest is real or if Orl is being used as leverage because of the cap space availability.

100% false. We wanted no part of Suggs. It was clear as day that we were going Mobley/Barnes (post draft when it all came out)

[Brinbe]

I'd be good with obtaining any of those Magic guards in Fultz/Suggs/Anthony. Not as much in Harris or Ross. Wonder if they'd also want Bamba even if he isn't great or any of the other young secondary pieces like a Houstan or Okeke.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I'm hearing the goal is this, trade FVV to the magic for Suggs bamba and best of pick swap w the magic.

Then go for the playoffs, knock the bulls or magic out, playoffs and a top 8 shot at wemb. That's the goal

I don’t think Freddy could pull that, but if we get that pick swap we should completely bottom out this season. We’d have the highest odds at landing Victor, and over a 70% shot at moving into the top 4.

[DreamTeam09]

I'd be good with obtaining any of those Magic guards in Fultz/Suggs/Anthony. Not as much in Harris or Ross. Wonder if they'd also want Bamba even if he isn't great or any of the other young secondary pieces like a Houstan or Okeke.

It'll be one of those PGs + another player to make the salary match. Harris Bamba or Ross + one of the PGs

[PhilBlackson]

I think it does make sense for the magic because if Fred gets traded to the suns or the Lakers or clippers, he might be convinced to stay. The magic may have decided Suggs is a scrub anyway. Suggs and bamba for Fred would work.

They need to add the worse of theirs or CHI's pick.

Suggs looks like a bust so far & Bamba is a back up big. I'd easily do a deal with BKN for Thomas + pick or even LAC for Mann + couple swaps before one with ORL with no really intriguing prospect.

[OakleyDokely]

I think VV goes for a similar package as Kyrie, one or two rotation players and a future pick. He's not as talented as Kyrie, but he's also not a flake who could blow up your season at any time.

[Nyce_1]

I very much doubt Masai trades for Suggs after his reportedly poor draft workout for the team and having passed him over for Barnes.

If Orlando is willing to give up Suggs, I wonder if we could turn this into a 3-way deal and fetch a younger player that Masai likes more.

BTW, for Masai critics, remember that we could have Suggs instead of Barnes right now. Don't forget, Suggs was a near universal consensus top 4 pick.

A few things:

- just because a team drafts player b over player a, doesn't mean they don't like player a. You only get 1 chance and in a draft, you bet on the development of certain skills to propel a prospect to be their best version. Sometimes you get it wrong, sometimes you get it half right.

- there was a rumor at the 2021 draft that your GM was trying to entice Orlando to trade up from 5. With all mocks pointing to Orlando taking Scottie at 5, why let a team trade up 1 spot if there's a risk they take a player you want? I think it may have been because they rated Scottie & Suggs (or maybe another player) pretty equally.

- if a team drafts player b over player a, it doesn't mean the team will stop watching player a or avoid ever bringing him into the organization.

- I think Suggs would be an amazing fit next to Scottie. AMAZING.

- Orl has no desire to trade Suggs. They LOVE him and what he brings. Lots of good years ahead of him. If you want him, price is high.

- if the rumored interest in FVV is true, it's to ADD him to Fultz/Suggs rotation. The odd man out is Cole. No idea if the interest is real or if Orl is being used as leverage because of the cap space availability.

100% false. We wanted no part of Suggs. It was clear as day that we were going Mobley/Barnes (post draft when it all came out)

100% false that the rumor didn't exist or 100% false that the rumor was true?

I'm no insider but it was reported that Tor was trying to get our 2 picks in a trade down scenario. Yes, you wanted Mobley but with him likely gone by 3, why trade back if Scottie was your other target with the potential risk of Orl taking Scottie. Orl was content with whoever was potentially available at 5.

[youreachiteach]

Also, he's coming off the bench. If they "love" him, he wouldn't have been beaten out of a starter's job by Fultz. Frankly, Cole is arguable having a better season. But yes, his defense is excellent and he tends to show up well in crunch time (when he plays).

[douggood]

I think VV goes for a similar package as Kyrie, one or two rotation players and a future pick. He's not as talented as Kyrie, but he's also not a flake who could blow up your season at any time.

a watered down version of the clippers offer for kyrie which was reported as
Luke Kennard, Terance Mann + fillers, a future first-round pick, and two first-round pick swaps

[Brinbe]

I'd be good with obtaining any of those Magic guards in Fultz/Suggs/Anthony. Not as much in Harris or Ross. Wonder if they'd also want Bamba even if he isn't great or any of the other young secondary pieces like a Houstan or Okeke.

It'll be one of those PGs + another player to make the salary match. Harris Bamba or Ross + one of the PGs

For sure. I know it'd have to involve multiple players to salary match. But my main point is that, as is always the case with this franchise, we have no real idea who they'd want out of all those players.

[MiltonBaller]

But FVV wasn’t motioned over by Masai?

FVV is the leader of this team. He doesn't get motioned at by Masai or anyone else, he does the motioning.

Peking Order

I'll have the duck please.

[Jerry Lucas]

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The Pelicans, Grizzlies, Knicks, Pacers, Trail Blazers, Lakers, Suns and Nets have all been linked to Anunoby in recent days. Although the Raptors, sources said, have communicated asking prices for Anunoby that rival front offices feel are quite steep. There appears varying interest in the talented 25-year-old wing, who emerged as an early-season Defensive Player of the Year candidate. But officials from multiple teams also told Yahoo Sports they expect the number of front offices quietly preparing for Kevin Durant to become available via trade this offseason will likely dampen the Raptors’ bidding war for Anunoby’s services, at least to some degree.

The bolded are 3-4 teams that I could see still being interested in OG despite the possibility of KD asking out in the offseason. Nets would want OG this season to add him around KD. Lakers are all in on trying to use their 2 FRPs to upgrade their team this year. The Nets would never trade KD to the Knicks, and I doubt the Pacers would be in on KD (could be wrong on this one though).

Several opposing executives have since labeled VanVleet as the most likely Raptor to be traded ahead of Thursday's deadline. A pair of Western Conference contenders in the Los Angeles Clippers and the Phoenix Suns have been often mentioned as VanVleet suitors. The Lakers, Magic and Timberwolves have also registered interest in VanVleet, sources said. VanVleet is expected to decline his $22 million option for the 2023-24 season in search of a pay raise that approaches a maximum salary and certainly north of $30 million.

The Clippers have been categorized as the franchise most inclined to land one of the veteran point guards currently on the block. The Clippers have a stable of rotation-caliber players on movable salaries, and fourth-year forward Terance Mann has no shortage of suitors around the league, sources said. Along with VanVleet, Kyle Lowry, Terry Rozier and D’Angelo Russell have all been connected to the Clippers and Suns. Phoenix has gauged the trade market with an eye toward finding ballhandlers who could both relieve Chris Paul during this season’s playoff push, sources said, and potentially replace Paul in the future.

[MoneyBall]

This will be a good test for Masai. I've always wondered if he had a weakness for overvaluing the guys he drafted/aquired. Like if he gets too attached to them in some way.

Come to think of it, who's the highest profile Ujiri acquisition that got traded? Poeltl maybe? Demarre Carol?

[WuTang_CMB]

A few things:

- just because a team drafts player b over player a, doesn't mean they don't like player a. You only get 1 chance and in a draft, you bet on the development of certain skills to propel a prospect to be their best version. Sometimes you get it wrong, sometimes you get it half right.

- there was a rumor at the 2021 draft that your GM was trying to entice Orlando to trade up from 5. With all mocks pointing to Orlando taking Scottie at 5, why let a team trade up 1 spot if there's a risk they take a player you want? I think it may have been because they rated Scottie & Suggs (or maybe another player) pretty equally.

- if a team drafts player b over player a, it doesn't mean the team will stop watching player a or avoid ever bringing him into the organization.

- I think Suggs would be an amazing fit next to Scottie. AMAZING.

- Orl has no desire to trade Suggs. They LOVE him and what he brings. Lots of good years ahead of him. If you want him, price is high.

- if the rumored interest in FVV is true, it's to ADD him to Fultz/Suggs rotation. The odd man out is Cole. No idea if the interest is real or if Orl is being used as leverage because of the cap space availability.

100% false. We wanted no part of Suggs. It was clear as day that we were going Mobley/Barnes (post draft when it all came out)

100% false that the rumor didn't exist or 100% false that the rumor was true?

I'm no insider but it was reported that Tor was trying to get our 2 picks in a trade down scenario. Yes, you wanted Mobley but with him likely gone by 3, why trade back if Scottie was your other target with the potential risk of Orl taking Scottie. Orl was content with whoever was potentially available at 5.

100% false that we would look at Barnes and Suggs equally. So to move down knowing ORL would take Barnes doesnt add up so in essence this was false too. He wasn't our target. All the reporting and hearing our coaches/FO speak was that Barnes was their guy. And actually, there were rumours of us trying to trade up with CLE to draft Mobley.