mihaic wrote:Dalek wrote:Boogie! wrote:Holy.... can't believe nothing has happened yet. I hope deals are on the table and the raptors are just playing some hot and cold games waiting to see if teams will give up more assets. But if they do nothing it's a disaster. Idk how they watch the games and think to themselves it's better to keep everyone together.
It is the Toronto management and coaching staff that worry me most. I feel like management is too enamoured by their own players and set unrealistic goals for trades which other teams balk at. The coach doesn't know how to be flexible in his schemes, so you kind of can only target guys who will thrive in it.
I still think the wait is on Phoenix to have Sarver officially out which is tomorrow. Sarver has veto on any trade greater than $10m, and you don't want to risk him rejecting a deal as final salute to their organization. We have a lot of Klutch guys which Sarver refused to deal with for years.
My take on it is different. It's possible I am the one who is wrong but here it is:
Our management is aware of their players value. They try to extract good value out of the trade. They
would rather wait the offseason and wait for a better option than make a trade.
That being said I hope good offers are there to be taken in which case they probably will and they are simply negotiating and/or trying to piggyback on Irving deal
That is a good way to look at things -focus on getting good value. I just think you lose control over FVV and Trent because you have to hope for a sign and trade in the offseason for them - deals should be done now for those two. OG becomes an expiring deal at the start of July 1 so you lose a bit of advantage trading him in the offseason. For Pascal, it is fair to wait until July because he has a big salary and he is probably our best current player.
The biggest piece is this draft. Keeping this crew together likely takes us out of high lottery position given our weak schedule. Ideally, you'd like Toronto to be in the bottom 6 to get the best talent available, plus you want a couple more firsts to get some of the other good players later in the draft, or to package for a player. 2023 is a huge draft year and next year will be a weak draft class.
This management group loves to listen, but they haven't made a ton of great moves since the Kawhi year. It is a path where we don't know if they are adding to this group or tearing down despite being 5 games below .500. It seems like other teams have no clue about our direction either.