Arsenal wrote:Negrodamus wrote:Kobblehead wrote:I took that ring away from him. While the Cavs are technically his drafted team, he re-joined them as a mercenary.
So LeBron has won zero rings as a franchise player by my super official record book that I keep in my head.
Kobe was the ultimate fraud since he didn't win a single one with the Hornets.
Sarcasm and apples vs. oranges comparisons won't save LeBron and Durant from being properly relegated to bus rider status.
It's a different lane altogether from bus driving alphas like Kobe, Jordan, Steph, Giannis, etc.
I mean, none of this matters because everyone's opinion on who is the GOAT is different. I actually don't care which owner LeBron wins it all for. I care about his actual ability.
I wonder why Kobe, Jordan, Steph, and Giannis stayed with the same team. Could it be because their FOs were competent and surrounded them with great complementary players? I'm sure LeBron would have stayed in Cleveland his entire career if they made a single move to help LeBron. His final season there, the year that should be LeBron's best team to date, his runningmate was Mo Williams (lol) and a 33 year old Antwan Jamison. How can LeBron at the end of that season honestly look at the team and feel he has a chance at EVER winning an NBA championship with the Cavs?
I know I'm not going to change any minds about this and I'm not a big enough LeBron fan to sit around BSing over why he should be in the conversation. I just find the detractors of his greatness grasping at straws over why he's not as great (his personality, political beliefs, flopping/crying at calls or no calls, I guess leaving a bad situations to go to a better one).