Trade Deadline Approaches

[Moonbeam]

Mamba being had for that cheap does make it frustrating when you consider our lack of size.

I don't mind the trades overall, they aren't bad trades. I like acquiring the draft capital and taking flyers on Reddish + Matisse, especially in a year where the West is no longer wide open with that Durant trade. I just can't overlook or forgive going into the second half of the season with an injured Nurk and Drew as our only centers.

Greg Brown the Third was waived for roster space for the trades. Not surprised, only one who really fits to get waived. He's such an infectious personality with how happy and enthusiastic he is. I wish him the best of luck. Not an NBA player right now, so I hope he gets himself into the g-league or with a young team that can play him minutes and refine him into a good three and d player. He has the athleticism and the physical tools if he can shape them.

I'll miss you, Bouncin' Brown.

I feel similarly. There are positives to getting draft assets to either use to pick players or use to grease the wheels of a more significant trade this offseason. But continuing this season with a roster that has glaring structural flaws feels like a slap to the face of the players on the roster. It’s not an obvious tanking move as trading off Dame or shipping off Nurkic and Grant would have been, but it puts players on the roster in a position of trying to compete with a roster construction that is tantamount to management putting their hands on the scale for the opposing team every night. I feel for Dame. I feel for Drew. I even feel for the young guys and Billups.

Hart and GP2 had two of the three highest on/off splits this season. This could get ugly.

[JasonStern]

Greg Brown the Third was waived for roster space for the trades. Not surprised, only one who really fits to get waived. He's such an infectious personality with how happy and enthusiastic he is. I wish him the best of luck. Not an NBA player right now, so I hope he gets himself into the g-league or with a young team that can play him minutes and refine him into a good three and d player. He has the athleticism and the physical tools if he can shape them.

I'll miss you, Bouncin' Brown.

Awe! Was really hoping things would eventually click for GB3. Seemed like a cool guy. Had all of the athleticism needed to play in the pros. But raw athleticism doesn't always translate.

[BNM]

Don't the Blazers still need to get rid of a player? They had one open roster position to begin with, sent out two players are are receiving 4 players in return. That doesn't add up.

According to the tweet above:

Cam Reddish, Matisse Thybulle, Ryan Arcidiacono (presumably will be waived), Kevin Knox

From Spotrac:

Arcidiacono is being traded and will not take the court for the Trail Blazers.

So, that would get the roster down to 15.

[BNM]

Mamba being had for that cheap does make it frustrating when you consider our lack of size.

I don't mind the trades overall, they aren't bad trades. I like acquiring the draft capital and taking flyers on Reddish + Matisse, especially in a year where the West is no longer wide open with that Durant trade. I just can't overlook or forgive going into the second half of the season with an injured Nurk and Drew as our only centers.

Greg Brown the Third was waived for roster space for the trades. Not surprised, only one who really fits to get waived. He's such an infectious personality with how happy and enthusiastic he is. I wish him the best of luck. Not an NBA player right now, so I hope he gets himself into the g-league or with a young team that can play him minutes and refine him into a good three and d player. He has the athleticism and the physical tools if he can shape them.

I'll miss you, Bouncin' Brown.

So, after also waiving Arcidiacono that gets us back to 14 on the roster and $6.1 million below the tax threshold (according to Spotrac). That puts us in play for the buy out market to pick up a veteran back up big man.

[BlazersBroncos]

How would we have traded for Bamba? He made 10M.

Would people really rather have Bamba than Cam and a FRP?

ORL should have gotten a SRP but that swap was EC for EC. Orlando wants an old dog in the locker room who can fill when their injury prone PG's go down - but also ensure they dont add $$$ when they are fixing for a big FA spending spree this offseason.

So assuming EC only, it would have had to be Hart. I think our return on Josh was good, if it was Bamba I would think it the 2nd worst move Cronin has made since the LAC deal.

[JRoy]

Thrilled POR did not overpay for OG.

[The Sebastian Express]

How would we have traded for Bamba? He made 10M.

Would people really rather have Bamba than Cam and a FRP?

ORL should have gotten a SRP but that swap was EC for EC. Orlando wants an old dog in the locker room who can fill when their injury prone PG's go down - but also ensure they dont add $$$ when they are fixing for a big FA spending spree this offseason.

So assuming EC only, it would have had to be Hart. I think our return on Josh was good, if it was Bamba I would think it the 2nd worst move Cronin has made since the LAC deal.

I would've been fine trading GPII to the Warriors and splitting those second rounders between us and Orlando and sending Mamba here.

[The Sebastian Express]

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I'd love for us to go for him but I'm guessing he signs with the Lakers or Mavericks.

[TB]

Looking at stats, both classic and advanced, it seems GP2 was playing really well since returning from injury. Doesn't look like he was getting as many cutting scoring opportunities that the Warriors found for him, but he was still seemingly playing efficient winning basketball.

Was that not the case? Seems like the general theme in this thread is closer to good riddance than being upset he's gone. Any insight? As a Warriors fan we are all thrilled to have him back.

[Moonbeam]

Looking at stats, both classic and advanced, it seems GP2 was playing really well since returning from injury. Doesn't look like he was getting as many cutting scoring opportunities that the Warriors found for him, but he was still seemingly playing efficient winning basketball.

Was that not the case? Seems like the general theme in this thread is closer to good riddance than being upset he's gone. Any insight? As a Warriors fan we are all thrilled to have him back.

I am sad to see him go. I have an uneasy feeling in my stomach about all of Portland’s moves aside from the Thybulle trade. I think man fans soured on GP2 because he was out a lot longer than the injury timeline suggested he would be. I was always happy to have him though and will miss him.

[The Sebastian Express]

Looking at stats, both classic and advanced, it seems GP2 was playing really well since returning from injury. Doesn't look like he was getting as many cutting scoring opportunities that the Warriors found for him, but he was still seemingly playing efficient winning basketball.

Was that not the case? Seems like the general theme in this thread is closer to good riddance than being upset he's gone. Any insight? As a Warriors fan we are all thrilled to have him back.

I agree with moonbeam in that he gets a lot of unjust hate/aggravation for having been injured and getting surgery. The team didn't do him any favors by saying they'd evaluate him in the first two weeks of the season and then he didn't make his debut until the Detroit game I think it was in late December/early January. People were calling him a thief, etc, which was just outlandish and downright disrespectful. A complete misunderstanding of him and how hard he worked.

When I called his time here a failed experiment that isn't anything against him as a player or a person. I just don't think he fit in all that well overall and wasn't used right. I think we would've been better trying to go for Bruce Brown or Kyle Anderson, but that's nothing against Gary. I would've preferred to trade him for something other than five picks if we were going to trade him, and I wouldn't have minded keeping him. I liked how he was helping Shaedon.

[BNM]

Looking at stats, both classic and advanced, it seems GP2 was playing really well since returning from injury. Doesn't look like he was getting as many cutting scoring opportunities that the Warriors found for him, but he was still seemingly playing efficient winning basketball.

Was that not the case? Seems like the general theme in this thread is closer to good riddance than being upset he's gone. Any insight? As a Warriors fan we are all thrilled to have him back.

Our coach was clueless on how to properly use Payton, even though Kerr showed him how. So, best to replace him with the younger, cheaper Thybulle (who our coach will also not know how to use), send him back to GSW where he will again thrive under a good head coach, and bank the five future SRPs.

Payton is a winning player. The problem is we have a losing coach.

[Dame Lizard]

Looking at stats, both classic and advanced, it seems GP2 was playing really well since returning from injury. Doesn't look like he was getting as many cutting scoring opportunities that the Warriors found for him, but he was still seemingly playing efficient winning basketball.

Was that not the case? Seems like the general theme in this thread is closer to good riddance than being upset he's gone. Any insight? As a Warriors fan we are all thrilled to have him back.

I am sad to see him go. I have an uneasy feeling in my stomach about all of Portland’s moves aside from the Thybulle trade. I think man fans soured on GP2 because he was out a lot longer than the injury timeline suggested he would be. I was always happy to have him though and will miss him.

I'm also a big GP2 fan. I think he contributed to the Blazers extremely well in his short stint here. Sure, it's a bit frustrating that his injury return kept getting prolonged, but these things happen. It was out of his control.

I'm happy with the trade moves, but agree that we continue to look directionless.

[BlazersBroncos]

Ya, GP2 will fit right back in w/ GSW and the system they ran. He showed his defense, but CB had no idea how to use him on offense. All advanced metrics show him as a plus on the floor even in a system that cant make the most of his (admittedly limited) offensive skills.

He deserves no hate. Guys dont scrap for half a decade to make it and sit out unless seriously injured, especially guys like GP2 who make their bills playing their hearts out.

The FO realized GP2 was a luxury we cant afford being as far away from contending as we are. I tend to agree.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Don't the Blazers still need to get rid of a player? They had one open roster position to begin with, sent out two players are are receiving 4 players in return. That doesn't add up.

According to the tweet above:

Cam Reddish, Matisse Thybulle, Ryan Arcidiacono (presumably will be waived), Kevin Knox

From Spotrac:

Arcidiacono is being traded and will not take the court for the Trail Blazers.

So, that would get the roster down to 15.

Arcidiacono is traded? To who and did it cost us a 2nd to do so?

[Pattycakes]

Am I the only one that saw our moves as a positive based on the team we actually are currently?

[Norm2953]

Blazers waived GB2 to get down to the 15 man limit. One guy went to last deal and other presumably will be released.

[BNM]

Don't the Blazers still need to get rid of a player? They had one open roster position to begin with, sent out two players are are receiving 4 players in return. That doesn't add up.

According to the tweet above:

Cam Reddish, Matisse Thybulle, Ryan Arcidiacono (presumably will be waived), Kevin Knox

From Spotrac:

Arcidiacono is being traded and will not take the court for the Trail Blazers.

So, that would get the roster down to 15.

Arcidiacono is traded? To who and did it cost us a 2nd to do so?

According to Spotrac: Arcidiacono is being traded and will not take the court for the Trail Blazers.

I've also heard he will be waived by POR. Either way, he won't be on our roster. POR only owes him the $723K balance due for the remainder of this season. So, cutting him isn't a big deal. You eat the $723K and move on. This isn't an Andrew Nicholson situation where he will continue to haunt our cap space for the next 7 years.

[PDXKnight]

Am I the only one that saw our moves as a positive based on the team we actually are currently?

They aren't earth shattering but they are positive for where we sit. Now if we go and blow 180 mil on resigning jerami all of these moves look a lot dumber so the verdict is out. Maybe, just maybe, the blazers will consider a dame deal this summer once it becomes more apparent we aren't gonna win a title anytime soon. If we are stuck with Grant for 4 years at just south of 50 million a year I'll be ready for a new owner and a clean house even more than I am right now

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Cool cool we trade our 2 best defensive role players for under-performing young players and draft compensation. So much for Blazers being buyers.


So... are we tanking now? How many games until Lillard gets another abdominal injury?