ReddoverKobe wrote:jowglenn wrote:The Bucks should grab him
No. No, man. ****, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.

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ReddoverKobe wrote:jowglenn wrote:The Bucks should grab him
No. No, man. ****, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.
JN61 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:JN61 wrote:I mean he would be instantly the best playmaker on Jazz uniform for over a decade so. Especially now when Jazz made sure rest of their season will be total disaster with no playmaking on the team (if Westbrook is being bought out).
Absolutely no he would not, we've had Mike Conley for several years now.
Who is significantly worse playmaker.
JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.
JN61 wrote:JellosJigglin wrote:JN61 wrote:Westbrook still places very high on different kind of passing and creation advanced impact metrics. So it's probably just you not understanding value of playmaking.
His "playmaking" is done almost entirely outside of the teams offense. That is something statistics/metrics does not tell you, and why you have to watch him play to appreciate just how detrimental he is to a teams flow. He looked better off the bench. In that role you can just give him the ball and be done with it. Deal with the turnovers and driving into no man's land until the starters can get back. His finishing numbers in the paint are horrendous too, leading to quick outs the other way. His playmaking isn't conducive to a winning style of play.
Frankly everything you said can be applied to LeBron.
Conley averaged 7.7apg/1.7tov for us this season, Westbrook is at 7.5apg/3.5tov. Conley has a way higher bball IQ, so he's a much better decision maker, which is why you never see him throw to the third row like Westbrook. Prime Westbrook was something, but Lakers Westbrook is just trash. He misses layups on the regular, which to me makes no sense since he can still fly out of the building.JN61 wrote:babyjax13 wrote:JN61 wrote:I mean he would be instantly the best playmaker on Jazz uniform for over a decade so. Especially now when Jazz made sure rest of their season will be total disaster with no playmaking on the team (if Westbrook is being bought out).
Absolutely no he would not, we've had Mike Conley for several years now.
Who is significantly worse playmaker.
NickAnderson wrote:
How old are you, just curious.
by gomeziee on 21 Jul 2013 00:53
im 20, and i did grow up watching MJ play in the 90's.
JN61 wrote:JellosJigglin wrote:JN61 wrote:Westbrook still places very high on different kind of passing and creation advanced impact metrics. So it's probably just you not understanding value of playmaking.
His "playmaking" is done almost entirely outside of the teams offense. That is something statistics/metrics does not tell you, and why you have to watch him play to appreciate just how detrimental he is to a teams flow. He looked better off the bench. In that role you can just give him the ball and be done with it. Deal with the turnovers and driving into no man's land until the starters can get back. His finishing numbers in the paint are horrendous too, leading to quick outs the other way. His playmaking isn't conducive to a winning style of play.
Frankly everything you said can be applied to LeBron.
infinite11285 wrote:JN61 wrote:JellosJigglin wrote:
His "playmaking" is done almost entirely outside of the teams offense. That is something statistics/metrics does not tell you, and why you have to watch him play to appreciate just how detrimental he is to a teams flow. He looked better off the bench. In that role you can just give him the ball and be done with it. Deal with the turnovers and driving into no man's land until the starters can get back. His finishing numbers in the paint are horrendous too, leading to quick outs the other way. His playmaking isn't conducive to a winning style of play.
Frankly everything you said can be applied to LeBron.
Honest question...does he owe you money?
There has to be some explanation for all of this.
Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
TheShow2021 wrote:"Westbrook has expressed a willingness to play for the Jazz."
I am surprised I haven't seen anyone comment on this line. This shows he rather play more minutes/ put up numbers for a bad team than play for a contender. He's still about the empty stats.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
TheShow2021 wrote:"Westbrook has expressed a willingness to play for the Jazz."
I am surprised I haven't seen anyone comment on this line. This shows he rather play more minutes/ put up numbers for a bad team than play for a contender. He's still about the empty stats.
Jables wrote:TheShow2021 wrote:"Westbrook has expressed a willingness to play for the Jazz."
I am surprised I haven't seen anyone comment on this line. This shows he rather play more minutes/ put up numbers for a bad team than play for a contender. He's still about the empty stats.
The audacity, LeBron or KD would never
We seriously talking **** about players for just being willing to play for a team now? He's 34 as well lol
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
therealozzykhan wrote:Should go to Miami, he can't be worse than Lowry.