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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

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What do you think our chances are of winning the West and the Championship if we win the West?

20-30% we win west, 70-80% someone else in field does
6
10%
30-40% we win west, 60-70% someone else in field does
12
19%
40-50% we win west, 50-60% someone else in field does
7
11%
Greater than 50% we win west, less than 50% someone else in field does
5
8%
IF we win west, 50/50 chance we win vs east team
17
27%
IF we win west, greater than 50% chance we win vs east team
8
13%
IF we win west, less than 50% chance we win vs east team
7
11%
 
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins 

Post#1581 » by Calvin Klein » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:44 am

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Calvin Klein wrote:Well said. And would also love getting rid of the whole in game entertainment. Get rid of the loud **** music, get an organist, and get Wheezy as far away from the arena as possible. :D

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Post#1582 » by Slim Charless » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:46 am

Crives wrote:Watching twins on Nets makes me miss Sarver


Good Lord. Get a grip.

I actually reported you for posting this. The "S" word should be banned....or at least have an auto filter like with cuss words
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Post#1583 » by bwgood77 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:47 am

Revived wrote:Nets really just do iso, iso, iso at the end of the 4th there. If they ran any kind of actual plays, they could’ve easily won this.

Bridges and Cam must’ve felt weird just standing in the corner considering Suns offense often has a lot of off ball movement and all. Bridges finally got the ball at the end after not having touched it in a while and the play was for him to attack the rim with the league’s best shot blocker in the paint. Lol.

Jacque Vaughn isn’t a good HC at all of course. Doubt he’ll be there next year.


If they played like they did in the first half moving the ball so much, etc, they would have won. They had like a 4 min stretch not starting. Watching all their steals and fast break points, it made me realize how we likely won't have nearly that many fast break points. We will just be all halfcourt, jump shooting. Luckily KD is so efficient, and Ayton usually. And 3 guys who can get their own shot. Hopefully Book gets back to normal soon but with KD it should help him a lot.
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Post#1584 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:48 am

Revived wrote:Nets really just do iso, iso, iso at the end of the 4th there. If they ran any kind of actual plays, they could’ve easily won this.

Bridges and Cam must’ve felt weird just standing in the corner considering Suns offense often has a lot of off ball movement and all. Bridges finally got the ball at the end after not having touched it in a while and the play was for him to attack the rim with the league’s best shot blocker in the paint. Lol.

Jacque Vaughn isn’t a good HC at all of course. Doubt he’ll be there next year.

That's what teams with a total roster overhaul normally looks like in the beginning until they start to learn sets and learns to play with each other.

Less than 2 weeks ago they started Harris, Kyrie, Royce O'Neale, Claxton and Curry. Now the only guy that is still in that starting line up is Claxton with the rest of the starters being brand new to the Nets.
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Post#1585 » by Slim Charless » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:49 am

BW.....I disagree with your decision.
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Post#1586 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:58 am

Nets are a fun team but need a go to scorer to be anything more than a scrappy fun 8 seed type.

They should be on the lookout for the next scorer to hit the market because the other infrastructure is there for a good team. And no I don't think Cam Thomas is that guy, I'm guessing he's more Flip Murray than Jamal Murray. Lou Williams is a high end outcome for him.

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Post#1587 » by Revived » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:09 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Revived wrote:Nets really just do iso, iso, iso at the end of the 4th there. If they ran any kind of actual plays, they could’ve easily won this.

Bridges and Cam must’ve felt weird just standing in the corner considering Suns offense often has a lot of off ball movement and all. Bridges finally got the ball at the end after not having touched it in a while and the play was for him to attack the rim with the league’s best shot blocker in the paint. Lol.

Jacque Vaughn isn’t a good HC at all of course. Doubt he’ll be there next year.

That's what teams with a total roster overhaul normally looks like in the beginning until they start to learn sets and learns to play with each other.

Less than 2 weeks ago they started Harris, Kyrie, Royce O'Neale, Claxton and Curry. Now the only guy that is still in that starting line up is Claxton with the rest of the starters being brand new to the Nets.

Yeah good point.
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Post#1588 » by Fo-Real » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:09 am

bigfoot wrote:Suns barely got by the Pels and got beat by the Mavs last year in the playoffs. Minus Crowder we trot out basically the same squad. The trade had to happen.


Bridges and Cam would have hopefully been better than last. But it would be taking a chance that they would. KD is guaranteed money, you are right.
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Post#1589 » by spanishninja » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:11 am

Revived wrote:Terrence Ross is a must get. Especially considering the rumors that Dallas is trying to get him, it would be brutal to have a rival sign him away.

We need wings with decent size that can defend.

Can’t the Suns offer more than vet min to any buy-out candidates? That should hopefully help with this.

I like Ross more than signing Reggie Jackson who honestly may be washed which is why Jerry West and the Clippers traded him away.


I think it will be unavoidable that top rivals will get somebody. we won't be able to grab all the buyout guys so the focus might as well be to get the ones that are the best fit.
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Post#1590 » by Revived » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:20 am

spanishninja wrote:
Revived wrote:Terrence Ross is a must get. Especially considering the rumors that Dallas is trying to get him, it would be brutal to have a rival sign him away.

We need wings with decent size that can defend.

Can’t the Suns offer more than vet min to any buy-out candidates? That should hopefully help with this.

I like Ross more than signing Reggie Jackson who honestly may be washed which is why Jerry West and the Clippers traded him away.


I think it will be unavoidable that top rivals will get somebody. we won't be able to grab all the buyout guys so the focus might as well be to get the ones that are the best fit.

I don’t care about getting everyone. Westbrook/Beverly, for example, are players I wouldn’t mind seeing other teams sign.

Ross is the only buy-out candidate that could really help us. He won’t be some amazing player but he’s a playable 3 & D wing which is something we lack. The two forwards we brought in, KD & Warren, are two of the most injury prone forwards in the league. Bazley is ok but still need depth.
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Post#1591 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:31 am

Revived wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
Revived wrote:Terrence Ross is a must get. Especially considering the rumors that Dallas is trying to get him, it would be brutal to have a rival sign him away.

We need wings with decent size that can defend.

Can’t the Suns offer more than vet min to any buy-out candidates? That should hopefully help with this.

I like Ross more than signing Reggie Jackson who honestly may be washed which is why Jerry West and the Clippers traded him away.


I think it will be unavoidable that top rivals will get somebody. we won't be able to grab all the buyout guys so the focus might as well be to get the ones that are the best fit.

I don’t care about getting everyone. Westbrook/Beverly, for example, are players I wouldn’t mind seeing other teams sign.

Ross is the only buy-out candidate that could really help us. He won’t be some amazing player but he’s a playable 3 & D wing which is something we lack. The two forwards we brought in, KD & Warren, are two of the most injury prone forwards in the league. Bazley is ok but still need depth.
Has Ross ever really played D? He does like to shoot 3s though so checks that box. Personally I'd rank Jackson above him in my buy out list but wouldn't mind Ross. Although I think TJ might be a better offensive option.

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Post#1592 » by matt131 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:44 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Revived wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
I think it will be unavoidable that top rivals will get somebody. we won't be able to grab all the buyout guys so the focus might as well be to get the ones that are the best fit.

I don’t care about getting everyone. Westbrook/Beverly, for example, are players I wouldn’t mind seeing other teams sign.

Ross is the only buy-out candidate that could really help us. He won’t be some amazing player but he’s a playable 3 & D wing which is something we lack. The two forwards we brought in, KD & Warren, are two of the most injury prone forwards in the league. Bazley is ok but still need depth.
Has Ross ever really played D? He does like to shoot 3s though so checks that box. Personally I'd rank Jackson above him in my buy out list but wouldn't mind Ross. Although I think TJ might be a better offensive option.

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Ross's advanced stats are GOD AWFUL. I know he plays on Orlando which probably doesnt help out, but yikes. His defensive rating the past 3 years: 115, 116, 118. And his offense is terrible too: 103, 100, 104.

I think someone like Will Barton who played very very well for the Nuggets two years ago (down year this year, but again, could be situation), or Justin Holiday (probably the most capable wing defender of the three here). BUT, we don't know who exactly will get bought out, so it's tough to gauge.

I think a wing plus some insurance behind Payne (NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT westbrook) is necessary as well. Again, not as big of a deal now that we have three guys who can run the offense, but I think Payne's foot problem is pretty bad. Would love for a defensive minded backup PG capable of staying in front of the small/shifty/quick guards to be bought out, but I don't know who that would be.
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Post#1593 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:45 am

Bridges said he would have done the trade too.

If he was a fan favourite and didn't want him traded that's one thing, but I don't think you can argue it decreased our potential to win a championship.
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Post#1594 » by matt131 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:45 am

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Post#1595 » by BobbieL » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:45 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Revived wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
I think it will be unavoidable that top rivals will get somebody. we won't be able to grab all the buyout guys so the focus might as well be to get the ones that are the best fit.

I don’t care about getting everyone. Westbrook/Beverly, for example, are players I wouldn’t mind seeing other teams sign.

Ross is the only buy-out candidate that could really help us. He won’t be some amazing player but he’s a playable 3 & D wing which is something we lack. The two forwards we brought in, KD & Warren, are two of the most injury prone forwards in the league. Bazley is ok but still need depth.
Has Ross ever really played D? He does like to shoot 3s though so checks that box. Personally I'd rank Jackson above him in my buy out list but wouldn't mind Ross. Although I think TJ might be a better offensive option.

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Woj said Ross was probably going to the mavs

As for the Nets - I miss Mikal and Cam
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Post#1596 » by sunskerr » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:47 am

Justin Holiday I think is the closest thing to a 3&D wing on the market. I think him and Reggie Jackson would put us over the top.
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Post#1597 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:49 am

Report was we were searching for PG depth in the final couple hours, I'd agree we could do with something other than Payne or Shamet as next in line - though not sure it's out there, Jackson and others are probably about equal and we would probably roll out Point Book or Point Durant in a must win game ahead of that.
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Post#1598 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:02 am

sunskerr wrote:Justin Holiday I think is the closest thing to a 3&D wing on the market. I think him and Reggie Jackson would put us over the top.
Yeah I would be cool with Holiday. They've been linked to him in some past rumors so he could be a guy they target.

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Post#1599 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:06 am

sunskerr wrote:Justin Holiday I think is the closest thing to a 3&D wing on the market. I think him and Reggie Jackson would put us over the top.

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