GOAT case for KAJ?

[rk2023]

1990 Jordan "losing" kind of defeats the whole "if this player is so good why did he lose?" argument.

If the literal GOAT lost then obviously losing because you have a team that isn't good enough is perfectly valid. Of course people will try to make it seem like 91 Jordan is better than 90 Jordan like they do with every championship year vs non champ years.

Well, statistically, he was better in 91 than 90 by the one-number metrics we have and general stat indicators. Whether you believe that information is enough evidence for him being better is another thing.

Do you have any side by side holistic stat comparisons (asking out of intrigue)? Would Appreciate intel if so!

[LukaTheGOAT]

1990 Jordan "losing" kind of defeats the whole "if this player is so good why did he lose?" argument.

If the literal GOAT lost then obviously losing because you have a team that isn't good enough is perfectly valid. Of course people will try to make it seem like 91 Jordan is better than 90 Jordan like they do with every championship year vs non champ years.

Well, statistically, he was better in 91 than 90 by the one-number metrics we have and general stat indicators. Whether you believe that information is enough evidence for him being better is another thing.

If someone wanted to say 91 Jordan was better than that's fine. But what would that make 1990? His second best season? He still has 5 other seasons where he won rings that are worse than his 90 season.

Okay I get your point.

[70sFan]

He is one of the GOATs so of course overall still impressive. The clip I gave was a pretty bad 5 min 4-quarter for KAJ, especially when you call him playing at a GOAT level, on an otherwise winnable game.

You're saying all of this sort of like MJ never had bad games much less 5 minute stretches in the playoffs. It's a ridiculously high standard you are using tbh that's to the point of nitpicking imo.

of course there are... 70s said it was a GOAT level playoff series from KAJ, i said i remembered he had stint of weak performances, 70s asked for some evidence and I posted a clip. Jordan, Kobe, LeBron all had those moments. When you want to talk about GOAT, not a superstar, how can a >5-min continuous clip in a 4th quarter playoff game that resulted in team loss nickpicking? Did you watch it?

Have you ever tried to analyze parts of games from other GOAT-level seasons? They all have weaker moments, especially if you want to focus on a 5 minutes stretches. It's a fair criticism, but I fail to see how it changes anything I said.